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It's like they're immune to hypocrisy. I was pointing out to a millennial that she was posting on Twitter that the 2A didn't apply to modern weapons because the Founders didn't envision them. On Twitter. Nothing. No recognition of the absolute inconsistency of her position.Exactly.....we've had that convo in the past and exactly as you stated......total hypocracy
Maybe those who are in the "I dont have a problem with guns, I just dont need one" group might change their minds due to an event and keep with a self sufficient mindset, but the ones who have politicized gun grabbing ideals will not.COMPLETELY disagree.
i have no clue how old you are. Your background. Your views or anything else about you. I have been in this game since the 1986 ban.
this is the first time in my life time that people are together, on both sides of the fence. Everybody is scared. Everybody sees the fragility of where we are now. And FINALLY the general public realizes that the police CAN NOT be everywhere. And if stuff goes sideways they are on their own.
hell these guys are having a breakdown over toilet paper.
now is exactly the time to show them the error of their ways. Now is the time to remind them thapey said “no one needs a gun”. “The police will protect you”. Nobody needs a 6 round magazine etc..
now is the time to have them completely readjust their thinking. Based on their own needs, fear and possible immediate future.
Only semi-on topic, but that is where I think things will fold up, if they do. I don't know whether the number is 9 or 6 or 12 but I'm pretty sure it's not 15. People will tolerate a lot. You don't need to provide a circus, but you do need to provide bread. If the food chain fails or even becomes significantly unreliable, civil society (which is never more than wallpaper-thin) could easily come apart. I will volunteer that I don't think that's inevitable or even likely, since it hasn't happened in Italy, which seems to be further out the COVID-19 curve.
Wrong.An independent in Ma is just a DemoCRAP who wants to pretend to look reasonable. That’s why 99 times out of 100 they vote to take our gun rights away and vote DemoCRAP.
What do you think happens to these folks when the food banks run out?Yes, but is it happening right now? Just curious...
I know what happens. The question was: "Is it happening now?"What do you think happens to these folks when the food banks run out?
I haven't actually seen an increase in Home Break-in reports. Why are people turning fearful? Things seem quiet out there.
Why are new people really looking to arm themselves...?
That's the thing though, you and your friend started down this road prior to COVID just as my brother did. The surge being seen now is post COVID. Most folks that never bothered, even if they leaned independent, stayed away from guns because they went along to get along with others in their lives. They lacked the courage to take a stand up until this point in their lives and they will again once this is all over. Their peers will bully them and they'll more than likely fold because they fear being mocked and ostracized from their little groups.I got my LTC from Hamilton about 2 weeks ago, and used my Hunter Ed from sept 2001. Keep in mind guys that not everyone who wants to buy a gun now is a liberal or panic-buying due to a crisis. I interviewed with PD in January before any talk of covid, and was planning on heading to KTP the day I got my license to pick up a 12ga. A week before I got my license Kittery had at least 50 used 870s for sale, the week I got it they had like 4. I have a friend in the same boat as me, got his LTC a week ago and we’re both right wing and both SOL
The whole country has written MA off, including lots of people on this board( true gun culture people) who have smartly voted with their feet and moved out of MA directly because of the harassing gun laws.You may be right but you'd better hope your wrong, otherwise you can write off MA now, just give up.
OK, so you're not really reading my posts are you, or you'd know why this doesn't make sense.The whole country has written MA off, including lots of people on this board( true gun culture people) who have smartly voted with their feet and moved out of MA directly because of the harassing gun laws.
If you want to stand and bang your head against a brick wall for the rest of your life, be my guest. I'll be on my range out back having the time of my life. I don't have time to contend with MA foolish gun laws or the cops that so willingly enforce them.
No individual is. That's why everyone needs to work together to make change happen.If you think you as a gun owner are going to change the laws in MA you need your head examined.....the leftists who supported the people who made those laws are going to have to be the ones who demand that change.
TSUSA seems to be doing OKHave you not yet noticed the number of companies around the country who will not ship anything to MA? The market is not there and the minimal gains are just not worth the potential losses due to the communistic AG and MA legislature.
I haven't had any conversations with anyone like this yet, but I hope that I would restrain my baser instincts to laugh in their face....I was contacted the other day by someone I would characterize as an acquaintance - not really a friend, but we've met a few times and had some conversations. In our conversations the fact that I'm a gun owner came up, so I wasn't overly surprised when he contacted me. The jist of his message was:
"I used to think guns weren't necessary. Now I realize that's not true, how will I protect my family if things go downhill? Yesterday I looked into the process to get a gun, but I realized I can't take any gun safety classes since they're all shut down. Is there anything I can do?"
I told him basically he's SOL, get some pepper spray and hope for the best. I refrained from giving him the whole "You supported gun control? THIS is gun control. Congratulations!" speech.
How many other conversations exactly like mine do you think are happening throughout MA, and other states like it? Anyone else here had non-gun-owner friends/family/acquaintances contact them with a similar question?
Gun owners do NOT work together and that is the real issue in getting change to happen.No individual is. That's why everyone needs to work together to make change happen.