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Patterns of Firearm Acquisition by Mass/Active Shooters in CA

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"Compared to legal handgun purchasers, shooters had more purchases of handguns in the year prior to the attack (OR = 5.58, 95% CI: 2.34, 13.33), greater odds of a history of purchase denials (OR = 23.43, 95% CI: 4.55, 120.59), and fewer years between the last recorded purchase and the end date (OR = 0.79, 95% CI: 0.68, 0.90). Among the broader set of mass and active shooters, mixed model results indicated that the firearms acquired close to the attack were more likely to be long guns, discharged during the attack, purchased out-of-state, and acquired by methods other than through a licensed dealer."

A very curious preprint summary - more than an abstract with quotable bits for the news media but not total access to allow an complete critique of the paper. UC Davis did a Press Release the day after it was published online. The academic title "Firearm acquisition patterns and characteristics of California mass and active shooters" morphed into a poorly disguised policy recommendation "Can records of firearm purchases help prevent mass shootings?"


"The researchers identified several distinct patterns of gun purchases for buyers who went on to commit mass shootings. Compared to other legal gun purchasers, mass and active shooters who perpetrated an attack between 1996 and 2018 and had a history of authorized purchasing:

  • purchased more handguns in the year before the attack
  • purchased their first gun at an older age
  • were more likely to have a history of purchase denials
Some buying patterns suggest pre-attack planning and a desire to have a firearm purchase record that was harder to trace. Analyses of individuals from California who perpetrated a mass or active shooting between 1985 and 2018 found that firearms acquired closer to the date of the attack were more likely to be:

  • long guns
  • used during the attack
  • purchased out-of-state
  • acquired in an unauthorized manner, even among some mass and active shooters who were not prohibited from buying guns at the time of purchase"

I think the senior author, Wintemute, is doubling down on his comeback to wrt why universal background checks in CA don't reduce violent crime. His first work found both firearm registration AND universal background checks were necessary, but now that that's failed, he's adding to the list: multiple firearms acquisitions, long guns (AR-15s), out-of-state purchases, non-FFL acquisitions, etc. The premise appears to be that algorithms should be able to identify those more likely to attempt to acquire guns outside the CA legal FFL/background check/registration process for criminal purposes of mass/active shootings. Sort of a pre-crime assessment that ChatGTP could do having been given access to the complete CA database collection?

I think Wintemute has decides more/new laws won't help - CA needs to round up likely suspects for confinement and interrogation.
 
The entire things are crock of shit and can be summed up by this one quote.

  • were more likely to have a history of purchase denials

They act like getting denied shows some type of shady behavior…

If anything that shows how flawed the system is.
 
This is guesswork at its finest,..
Agreed.

If the argument is they circumvent the law to o tain firearms, that sort of skews your baseline if comparing to a list of lawfully purchased guns.

I'm also still at a loss to explain why mass shooters apparently buy special rampage guns instead of using what is in their closet or safe.
 
The entire things are crock of shit and can be summed up by this one quote.

  • were more likely to have a history of purchase denials

They act like getting denied shows some type of shady behavior…

If anything that shows how flawed the system is.

Discretionary denials in CA were certainly frequent before Bruen and not indicative of “shady behavior”. CA does state point of contact background checks, which include NICS and CA state medical records. What’s missing is why they were denied - CA has some specific laws wrt mental health denials. That said, all the shrinks say they can’t tell who will be a killer or not. Just as past failed suicide attempts is the only really strong predictor of future suicide attempts, planning to attempt a mass/active shooting may be the only good predictor of being a mass/active shooter. Not much help… If they turned ChatGTP loose on all the social media from CA resident, they’d have millions of mass/active shooter suspects.


“In California, a gun purchase is often denied because the purchaser has been detained under Welfare & Institutions Code §5150, which provides for detention and a 72 hour mental health evaluation of a person considered a danger to himself/herself or others. Those detained under §5150 may become subject to a five year ban on firearms possession and denied a gun purchase.

If your denial follows a §5150 detention, you can petition the superior court for an early termination of this five year ban. You should consider hiring an attorney to represent you. To be effective, your attorney will likely recommend you be examined by a psychiatrist or psychologist to determine if expert testimony or a report can be offered at the hearing of your petition, that you are a person likely to use firearms in a safe and lawful manner. Without such favorable evidence, the judge is likely to deny your petition.

In California, if your psychotherapist reports that you have made, "a serious threat of physical violence against a reasonably identifiable victim or victims", you become subject to a six month ban on firearms possession. The procedure for an early termination of this six month ban is similar to that used for the five year ban.”


They sure as hell are not putting enough people away in CA, but we know WFT is wrong with FL 😅

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Discretionary denials in CA were certainly frequent before Bruen and not indicative of “shady behavior”. CA does state point of contact background checks, which include NICS and CA state medical records. What’s missing is why they were denied - CA has some specific laws wrt mental health denials. That said, all the shrinks say they can’t tell who will be a killer or not. Just as past failed suicide attempts is the only really strong predictor of future suicide attempts, planning to attempt a mass/active shooting may be the only good predictor of being a mass/active shooter. Not much help… If they turned ChatGTP loose on all the social media from CA resident, they’d have millions of mass/active shooter suspects.


“In California, a gun purchase is often denied because the purchaser has been detained under Welfare & Institutions Code §5150, which provides for detention and a 72 hour mental health evaluation of a person considered a danger to himself/herself or others. Those detained under §5150 may become subject to a five year ban on firearms possession and denied a gun purchase.

If your denial follows a §5150 detention, you can petition the superior court for an early termination of this five year ban. You should consider hiring an attorney to represent you. To be effective, your attorney will likely recommend you be examined by a psychiatrist or psychologist to determine if expert testimony or a report can be offered at the hearing of your petition, that you are a person likely to use firearms in a safe and lawful manner. Without such favorable evidence, the judge is likely to deny your petition.

In California, if your psychotherapist reports that you have made, "a serious threat of physical violence against a reasonably identifiable victim or victims", you become subject to a six month ban on firearms possession. The procedure for an early termination of this six month ban is similar to that used for the five year ban.”


They sure as hell are not putting enough people away in CA, but we know WFT is wrong with FL 😅

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The graph above is emergency psych retentions per 100k. FL's problem is senior citizens developing dementia and drug use are going to skew that in line with their population.
 
“Active shootings”

Get real… it takes him eight hours to figure out what’s going on most shootings last less than 12 seconds
 
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