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Papa Ginos abruptly closes several restaurants.

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by RHJJ, Nov 4, 2018.

  1. Bistro

    Bistro NES Member

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    Lol I do remember the pick ups, they weren’t that many dominos in the 80’s and remember there was a small location over the Quincy bridge. We use to pass it to get to Pizza Hut on 3a. I remember little Ceasar’s pizza commercials in the 80’s-90’s but they were never around my area.
     

  2. ThePreBanMan

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    IDK how that mall is still open.
     
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    I remember one Little Caesar's ad in particular:
    Nerds only: What is a kilobit?
    [smile]
     
  4. Pete85

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    Me neither. It's been probably six months since I was there last, and it was pretty sad. The only anchor stores left are Dick's and Sears and every other storefront, including the very large one previously occupied by Best Buy, is empty.
     
  5. J.A.C

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    I remember when the Silver City Galleria (Taunton Mall) was new, man the lines to get in there. I used to work at the Sports Memorabilia Store there. Then the universe realized this mall was in Taunton and slowly sucked it down the tubes.
     
  6. RHJJ

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    Do they still have tha signs on the highway for the traffic backing up on the exit?
     
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  7. The5thDentist

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    Well, I have to counter-signal you on this.

    Yes, I had no interest in Domino's, and the few times I've had it over the years I have been less than impressed.

    However, we recently went to the one in Salem, NH. My little boy wanted to try it -- thanks to the advertising. Well, he got a giftcard for his birthday, so we went. Got the usual cheese pizza that everyone in the house can agree on, and it really wasn't half bad. He's a picky eater and he liked it. Girls liked it. Even wife was pleasantly surprised. IDK. Maybe location and staff have a huge impact on the quality of the product? Maybe we just lucked-out? Whatever the reason, it was pretty good and we'll go again.
     
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  8. Dennis in MA

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    It is a wonder.

    I dunno. I think online shopping and a gang war sorta hurt their chances at success.

    Lines WERE crazy 20 years ago. That was. . . . 20 years ago. People were different. Look at when they built that plaza where HD is - the first Black Friday and Christmas season they needed 2 cops to direct traffic. Never EVER seen it that bad again. EVER.

    People went malling in the 90's. Back around the turn-of-the-century/millenium, we'd go out 2-3 Fridays of the month with our girls. Wander the mall. Get food from Brighams (good fries). It was a great night.

    Now? Well, Macy's should have closed 5 years prior. It went from the nice clothing store I recall from my youth to nasty discount clothes they'd sell at Bradlee's 30 years ago. And pack them in. JCP was too many items in too small of a store. Sears was just. . . Sears. Between HD and Lowe's, they took the tool business. Appliances weren't enough and the rest of teh store wasn't big enough to hold the selection necessary to keep people coming. A brand without a customer base.

    I love the new movie theater. And the activity place seems nice. But that mall can't survive on those 2 items. They need to figure out something else. Because stores aren't it. People don't shop the way they did before. Places like Mansfield Crossing and Wretham are where malls are going.

    It'll be interesting. I'm still surprised the Indians didn't buy it for the casino.
     
  9. Bistro

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    Just like south shore plaza in the 80’s up until the mid 90’s when it was one floor, and there was a restaurant by Macy’s is now. I remember it used to take forever to find parking. Now it’s just shell with more kiosks than storefronts and wannabe gangstas.
     
  10. Behind Enemy Lines

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    The other major screw up for PG's was getting rid of the good syrian pockets. They used to be nice and thick and could hold whatever they filled them with, now they're thin and immediately start tearing. The only place I know of that still does good syrian pockets is Marc Antony's in Onset.
     
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  11. Paul455

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    I was born in the early 1950's, so I grew up in a different America that exists today.

    Fast food and big shopping malls either didn't exist, or were in their infancy.

    The majority of stores were "downtown", and a large percentage were small businesses.

    The fast food wave and the shopping mall wave started hitting in the late 1970's, and by the mid 1980's, these
    two wave decimated the downtown businesses......disruption.

    Fast forward to the early 2000's, and the internet has decimated small stores and big malls. The Amazon model
    has changed things forever......more disruption.

    However, the biggest change is in people. Viewpoints, manners, ethics, acceptance.....all are changing, and not for the better.
     
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  12. headednorth

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    Did some side work for a legit, born and raised in Italy Italian guy in East Boston. Says his wifes coming home with pizza for us and Im thinking "gunna get the real deal best pizza around". She comes in with a Dominos box.[laugh] At the time, I had never had it but heard all the shit talk. It was not bad at all. After I had mentioned it to him and he said it used to be horrendous but word had gotten back to Dominos and they changed it up and not its not bad. Got it a few times after that and never had a bad one. Nothing to rave about, but not the nightmare it once was I guess.
     
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    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
     
  14. Paul455

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    My grandparents started up and ran an Italian restaurant and pizzeria from 1940 into the mid 1970"s.

    They sold tens of thousands of pizzas.

    The secret was to use all handmade ingredients: dough, sauce, toppings, good olive oil.....and NEVER wash the pizza pans...EVER.

    In 30+ years, they never changed the recipe.
     
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  15. headednorth

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    I have some family out in AZ and there was a place out there called New York Pizza, or something to that effect. Long story short the owners were from back East and had a hard time recreating the taste out there. Same ingredients, same recipe, had everything shipped out there, made the dough same as they always did, etc. Something wasnt right though. They could never recreate the taste. Finally figured out it was the water they were using to make the dough. They started having NY tap water shipped in and the problem went away.
     
  16. JohnZ

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    Mmmm. Papa Gino's steak and cheese grinder.
     
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  17. Paul455

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    Have any of you read the book "Fast Food Nation"?

    It chronicles McDonalds, but looks at how the fast food industry has mechanized and engineered food.

    It will open your eyes.
     
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  18. J.A.C

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    I have good book. Also recommend the book Salt, Sugar, Fat, really opens the eyes to how the food industry has been programming us for decades.
     
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    3 of us, mid 70's, used to hang out in PG in South DW Highway in Nashua. Read the papers, pitchers of Bud were $1 and Denise worked there.
     
  20. StevieP

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    Gone to Carolina in my mind...
    I'm in NC now so don't have a Papa Gino's to go to. But when we've been back in the past year I know we've gotten a Papa Gino's pizza on one trip, and a D'Angelo's #9 steak & cheese the other. I liked D'Angelo's tuna, too.

    Say what you will about Papa Gino's, but I thought their pizza was remarkably consistent from location to location. Same crust. Same sauce and same four-cheese mix. Not the best, but certainly not the worst, and you at least knew what you were going to get.

    They have special rotating multiple-deck, 'ferris wheel' or 'reel' style pizza ovens that they have to literally build the stores around, that gave good results. Not like a Blodgett or typical 'pizza oven'.

    I don't know if it's possible to count all the Papa Gino's pizzas we had over the years. So many birthday parties, work or church events, or just family dinners. Not an every week thing, but since I'm in my 50's and ate there since I was probably eight or ten years old, that's a lot of pizzas.

    Pepperoni & Mushroom was always a good combo there.
     
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  21. Asaltweapon

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    Oh some funny times in PG there. Underage rolling our empties away from the table. Then of course the Singapore (Sling A Whore) for Chinese food and the bar/night club with the woman who all lived across the street in the apartments but the pizza place, Shakey's in front of where the mall is now had the best pizza. Huge open place with long picnic tables.
     
  22. mibro

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    IOW the pizza was actual food. If you looked at the ingredients for cheap chain store pizza now it would be a horror show - guaranteed to make you sick if you eat enough of it and another lifelong customer of big medicine.
     
  23. Paul455

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    My grandparents made EVERYTHING from scratch in their restaurant.....meatballs, salad dressing, desserts, pasta sauce.

    They bought fresh chickens and my grandfather butchered all of his meat.

    It was a ton of work but the food was great.

    Cant't beat homemade.
     
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  24. Dennis in MA

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    You know they expanded the parking, right???? There are no empty storefronts at SSP. Head to Silvah Sitty Gallareaaaahhhh and see how many stores there are. SSP is the epitome of success in comparison and will live on for many many years.



    A month or so ago, I was making my "famous" Sausage Cacciatore. I use all fresh cut ingredients BUT use jarred sauce.

    "Jen, grab me a jar of sauce."

    "Uhhhhh, we don't have any sauce. Want me to run out?"

    "Nope. Grab me a can of Cento, a can of tomato paste and the garlic. I'll grab the basil we have left over in teh fridge."

    Made fresh sauce from scratch. While my Cacciatore is good, this made it better. And it seemed thicker. Maybe because I let it steep a bit longer to get the sausage flavor into the sauce before serving.

    Fresh = Better. (Except I think that Flying J's Pizza in Bridgewater uses canned pizza sauce - and I really love their pizza.)
     
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    Fresh also = no preservatives or additives.

    Chain store pizza cheese now includes things you wouldn't feed to lab rats. How'd you like a side of silicone surfactant with your pizza cheese?

    Look at this patent for example: Frozen granular cheese products for baked pizzas

    Coatings for the frozen cheese can include one or more of the following flavor additives: lactose, glucose, diacetyl, free fatty acids (i.e., butyric, propionic, capric, caproic acids), cheese flavors (cheddar, Swiss, Provolone, etc.), meat flavors (bacon, pepperoni, sausage, etc.), spices (basil, oregano, garlic, dill, cinnamon, fennel, etc.), vegetable flavors (tomato, onion, pimiento, pepper, etc.), and fruit flavors (strawberry, pineapple, cherry, lemon, etc.). Emsulsifier additives, which may be used either alone or with the flavor additives, include: surfactants, disodium phosphate, silicon[e sic] emulsifiers, and other GRAS-approved emulsifiers.

    Put that on top of artificially flavored "tomato" sauce and pizza crust made from GMO wheat with a good dose of Glyphosate and you have a great recipe for cancer.
     
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    I remember that place being open air when I was a little one. Learned to drive in the parking lot on Sundays around 1973 or so in my grandmother's car who lived on Common St long before I was old enough for a learners permit. The real treat was driving all the back roads from SSP to her house.
     
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    I remember Christmas shopping with my parents back in around 1970 or 71, when it was open air and it was snowing. My first grade teacher was working in Jordan Marsh, so it helps nail down the year. I remember how quiet and peaceful it was because of the snow.
     
  28. Mike Stanton

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    Very few Pizza Joints have Beer anymore.

    Was there a change in Mass Law ?
     
  29. MisterHappy

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    My Nephew, Joe, works for them. I have been to the one in Marlboro - nice.
     
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    One plus from this....other restaurants will maybe be able to get staff. The PG's on route 9 in Framingham has a "HIRING FOR ALL POSITIONS" sign out.

    On Channel 5, they had a liveshot from the closed Peabody(?) PG's.... Bertucci's had put a sign up on the door, saying, "We're hiring". [laugh] I'll have to check with my son that works for Bert's about how well that works.....
     

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