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Can an out-of-state individual (non FFL) transfer a lower receiver (preban) to an MA FFL?
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I've been searching and this thread is as close as I could find.
If I want to purchase a pre-94 lower from an individual in NH and I live in Mass, can I FA10 it or do I need to have it shipped to an FFL?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Thanks. It is in fact a full rifle, I thought only the lower counts. So I can go with the seller to an NH FFL and take care of it there, rather than having to deal with shipping it. Doesn't matter too much. I'd like to avoid having to have it shipped.Must go through MA FFL, period, end, full stop. If it was a complete rifle you could do it through MA or NH FFL assuming the NH FFL would move it to a MA citizen. (most will, if preban, some dont tho).
just make sure the NH FFL isn't "too askeared" of Maura to make the transferThanks. It is in fact a full rifle, I thought only the lower counts. So I can go with the seller to an NH FFL and take care of it there, rather than having to deal with shipping it. Doesn't matter too much. I'd like to avoid having to have it shipped.
Thanks. It is in fact a full rifle, I thought only the lower counts. So I can go with the seller to an NH FFL and take care of it there, rather than having to deal with shipping it. Doesn't matter too much. I'd like to avoid having to have it shipped.
Thanks. It is in fact a full rifle, I thought only the lower counts. So I can go with the seller to an NH FFL and take care of it there, rather than having to deal with shipping it. Doesn't matter too much. I'd like to avoid having to have it shipped.
What is worst case that could happen to a NH dealer for not following MA laws?
Maybe a rifle/firearm that would be one thing. Maybe federal issues?
But how about the Southern NH FFL that ask for MA LTCs for AMMO?
As far as the ammo in NH you follow the constitution mostly, a MA resident is constitutionally allowed to carry in NH, but we are afraid to sell AMMO to a unlicensed MA person who could legally be carrying in NH?
Getting tired of the pants anecdote, are we?For the love of god, can we just not go there? That horse has been beaten to death and gone to the glue factory and back 48 times.
eFA-10 it as Registration, NO info on where you got it, within 7 days of bringing it across the barb-wire and you are done.Pants? We don't need no stinking pants.
Thank you all for your time.
In short. Yes complete rifle.
Have all receipt and documentation from original sale prior to 1994. Serial number also is correct for pre '94 manufacture.
So if we find a NH LGS that is okay with it, I'm sure I know one, than can do the paperwork there.
Then when I get back to mass I FA10? or is the paperwork at the FFL in NH all that needs to be done.
Thank you all again for you time. This state makes it so confusing intentionally so people just give up.
How does the state know when it crossed state lines?eFA-10 it as Registration, NO info on where you got it, within 7 days of bringing it across the barb-wire and you are done.
Enjoy.
How does the state know when it crossed state lines?
If you disassemble it in NH and bring it to MA in pieces what is there to register?
If you assemble to use but store disassembled, what/when do you register?
Has anyone ever been prosecuted for failure to register and how did they prove it?
If you forget to register within 7 days, does Haynes vs United States (1968) come into play: 5th amendment self-incrimination clause Haynes v. United States - Wikipedia
Asking all this for a friend
I wasn't going to out you as the friend I was asking for Mike. I did not count on you outing yourself...The only time I ever heard of this ever happening (and that was an attempt, not a successful prosecution, per se) was apparently one of Swatgig's clients had it happen to him. Sadly because he is no longer with us (RIP, Steve) we probably won't be able to hear what the final outcome of that case was. IIRC his client was charged with "failure to register/report" or somesuch. I got the impression that was not the only charge, though. Only god knows if it was just dropped or some deal was brokered, etc.
Part of the problem in legal circles in MA is that most of the dumbest laws never truly get tested to their limits in the state's court system to the point where a well crafted legal argument is made thats traceable. I think part of this is because they're dumb, and any attorney can fling reasonable person and other things against an insanely dumb law, the other part of it is because of the deal brokerage shit that goes on, its exceptionally rare for most garbage grade gun cases to even go to trial. A deal gets brokered, someone sucks for a CWOF, the prosecutor gets a thing loosely resembling a win, for political purposes, life goes on.... Then there's also problem #3- usually shit MA gun laws come in a bundle. Prosecution ends up
getting accosted and called out on the trash charges and the trash gets dropped and the one "easy to convict" charge remains. So tons of these types of charges likely happen, but
are dropped.
All this aside.... from my POV? It's not worth worrying about. Ever. If I was thinking about "things to worry about as an MA gun owner" the concept of "failure to register/report" would be absolutely dead last on the list.