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DISCLAIMER: This thread is NOT meant to be a discussion about on which way those of us carry when in public. Personally I believe that’s a decision that can only be made by the person who carries their firearm, and the legality of each based on the location that they choose to carry. So please this thread is NOT mean to discuss the pros and cons of OC v CC other then from a purely legal / permit stand point.
My observations also clearly show the hypocrisy and lack of logic by many states.
It is interesting to note that in 30 states it is legal to Open Carry without a Permit/License. However in only 16 states is it legal to Conceal Carry without a Permit/License. It is also interesting to note that in all 16 states where CC is legal without a permit, OC is also legal without a permit.
It is also interesting to note that 5 states and one city (Washington DC) do NOT allow OC even with a permit.
Now IMHO it seems to me that the majority of society is much more at ease and is ok with a person OC a firearm without training and background check then they are of allowing someone to conceal. Except for 5 weird states.
It is interesting to note that in many forums, as well as many articles written by many pro-gun owners, that many prefer to conceal carry full time, or at least the majority of the time.
One state Delaware, is very strange when it comes to having people carrying handguns. They allow any law abiding citizen to OC without a permit. However if you wish to conceal carry as a resident or non-resident a permit/license, is very difficult to obtain. While easier then NYC, NJ, MD, MA. It is still not an easy task. To top it off Delaware will recognize permits/licenses issued from a few other states. Such as Texas has reciprocity with Delaware. I have a friend in Delaware, couldn’t get a permit from Delaware, but got one from Texas, so in his home state he OC’d till he got his Texas license. When I soon receive my permits/licenses from 5 of the other 9 licenses I have applied for. I will have 4 that Delaware will recognize.
So legally speaking.... if you OC there are probably more states that you can legally carry in then you can even with your state License/permit carrying Concealed.
One other example. Oregon. Will not recognize any other states license/permit. If your not a resident, military, or own a business in Oregon, or not from a boarding state. You also can’t get a non-resident license/permit. Thus even though soon I will have a permit/license from a total of 9 different states. I won’t be able to carry in Oregon unless I OC.
Washington state won’t recognize Texas, but Washington does allow OC without a permit, although while they won’t recognize my Texas LTC, they will recognize my Non-resident Utah LTC.
So if your not someone totally against OC, and your current state LTC/CCL isn’t recognized. You may get lucky and be able to take advantage of OC without a permit!
For those curious as to why I spent the time, and money and effort to obtain 9 LTC/CCL’s from 9 different states... the answer is two fold.
1. One is my home state, and 4 of the remaining CCL/LTC’s give me the legal capability to carry in their state plus 2 others with reciprocity, because those 6 states don’t recognize Texas LTC.
2. The other 4 LTC/CCL’s give me a level of redundancy should another state, or even their own change or eliminate reciprocity with another state. Reciprocity between states changes yearly sometimes, and we never know what each state could do. So I maintain redundancy in my state issued LTC’s/CCL’s.
My observations also clearly show the hypocrisy and lack of logic by many states.
It is interesting to note that in 30 states it is legal to Open Carry without a Permit/License. However in only 16 states is it legal to Conceal Carry without a Permit/License. It is also interesting to note that in all 16 states where CC is legal without a permit, OC is also legal without a permit.
It is also interesting to note that 5 states and one city (Washington DC) do NOT allow OC even with a permit.
Now IMHO it seems to me that the majority of society is much more at ease and is ok with a person OC a firearm without training and background check then they are of allowing someone to conceal. Except for 5 weird states.
It is interesting to note that in many forums, as well as many articles written by many pro-gun owners, that many prefer to conceal carry full time, or at least the majority of the time.
One state Delaware, is very strange when it comes to having people carrying handguns. They allow any law abiding citizen to OC without a permit. However if you wish to conceal carry as a resident or non-resident a permit/license, is very difficult to obtain. While easier then NYC, NJ, MD, MA. It is still not an easy task. To top it off Delaware will recognize permits/licenses issued from a few other states. Such as Texas has reciprocity with Delaware. I have a friend in Delaware, couldn’t get a permit from Delaware, but got one from Texas, so in his home state he OC’d till he got his Texas license. When I soon receive my permits/licenses from 5 of the other 9 licenses I have applied for. I will have 4 that Delaware will recognize.
So legally speaking.... if you OC there are probably more states that you can legally carry in then you can even with your state License/permit carrying Concealed.
One other example. Oregon. Will not recognize any other states license/permit. If your not a resident, military, or own a business in Oregon, or not from a boarding state. You also can’t get a non-resident license/permit. Thus even though soon I will have a permit/license from a total of 9 different states. I won’t be able to carry in Oregon unless I OC.
Washington state won’t recognize Texas, but Washington does allow OC without a permit, although while they won’t recognize my Texas LTC, they will recognize my Non-resident Utah LTC.
So if your not someone totally against OC, and your current state LTC/CCL isn’t recognized. You may get lucky and be able to take advantage of OC without a permit!
For those curious as to why I spent the time, and money and effort to obtain 9 LTC/CCL’s from 9 different states... the answer is two fold.
1. One is my home state, and 4 of the remaining CCL/LTC’s give me the legal capability to carry in their state plus 2 others with reciprocity, because those 6 states don’t recognize Texas LTC.
2. The other 4 LTC/CCL’s give me a level of redundancy should another state, or even their own change or eliminate reciprocity with another state. Reciprocity between states changes yearly sometimes, and we never know what each state could do. So I maintain redundancy in my state issued LTC’s/CCL’s.
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