Open Carry is legal in MA?

Glockster30 said:
And they probably would have been arrested because firearms are not allowed in Boston Common per the City Park Rules & Regulations. It would be interesting though because where would they lock up thousands of people? Bring back the old prison ships like the Brits used in the 1700s? [laugh]



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Pretty sure that's a fine, not arrest.
 
Glockster30 said:
And they probably would have been arrested because firearms are not allowed in Boston Common per the City Park Rules & Regulations. It would be interesting though because where would they lock up thousands of people? Bring back the old prison ships like the Brits used in the 1700s? [laugh]



www.boston.gov

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Below, you can find the official rules and regulations for public parks and other public places, including boundary roads and parkways, under the jurisdiction of the Parks and Recreation Commission.
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I must have missed the part about the OP's event being on Boston Common
 
Mesatchornug said:
Pretty sure that's a fine, not arrest.
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Yes, it is. However, would it cause suitability issues?

DPR said:
I must have missed the part about the OP's event being on Boston Common
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It was your comment that implied having it on Boston Common. "You’d probably get more people than the 2A rally this past weekend did."
 
appraiser said:
Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just giving my opinion as to how suitability could be used to revoke or deny a renewal of a LTC

All it would take would be a complaint filed with the local District Court, substantiated or not by the clerk, to give the licensing authority enough running room to bring suitability into the mix. The lowest level offense that would trigger this would probably be "disturbing the peace". That is a very broad catch all law that any Officer could use to set the wheels in motion.

We all know armored car guards OC, Police officers OC, plain clothes officers routinely OWB carry without a jacket on (but sometimes with their badge in plain sight).

If someone wants to be the test case for OC in MA, try walking into a bank with your gun visible if you were not a known customer.

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The bar “annoy or disturb at least one person” is guaranteed with the Karens.

“MAN WITH A GUUUUUUN!”
 
Mark from ? said:
When I was up there I used to go to a pizza shop for lunch all the time. Local cops would eat there and id hang with them from time to time.North Central MA. Town not as red as I lived in.

A dude came in OC and one of the cops I didnt know well went over to him and quietly recommended that he should conceal.

When he got back to the table I told him technically oc js legal. He said the license is for CC for a reason. Not to scare the sheep, and so cops dont have to deal with scared sheep and disturbing the peace, or even having to make the call.

While I obviously disagree with the above. My rights dont stop at some Karen’s feelings. I cant disagree that reducing interaction with law enforcement in any state you live in by not drawing attention to yourself is not a bad idea.

I can OC down here while fishing,hunting going to and from those activities. Or going to and from the range. Its a very broad interpretation.
Which technically allows OC for the most part.
With the simple act of keeping a range bag or fishing pole in my truck.


I still choose to conceal. But in shorts and t shirt 90 percent of the year its a full size glock and dont give a rats ass about printing. Nor did I up there. Except up there your at least have heavy sweatshirt cover 70 percent of the year.
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and I assume you are in Florida

Yes, even before Constitutional Carry came into law recently in FL, there was an exception for carrying a weapon without a permit under the conditions you outlined.

There was a man who went out of his way to OC claiming he was going fishing, and he would have fishing gear with him and was able to point to a place he was heading to fish

He loved to "educate" the Police on Fl law 790.33

Do I think his roaming along Fort Myers Beach in the middle of Spring Break with an AR platform rifle in plain sight was a wise thing to do?

No.

Do I think it was a wise idea to do a similar thing in a park I am at on a pretty regular basis.... again NO


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJNFYEKaYVc
 
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appraiser said:
and I assume you are in Florida

Yes, even before Constitutional Carry came into law recently in FL, there was an exception for carrying a weapon without a permit under the conditions you outlined.

There was a man who went out of his way to OC claiming he was going fishing, and he would have fishing gear with him and was able to point to a place he was heading to fish

He loved to "educate" the Police on Fl law 790.33

Do I think his roaming along Fort Myers Beach in the middle of Spring Break with an AR platform rifle in plain sight was a wise thing to do?

No.

Do I think it was a wise idea to do a similar thing in a park I am at on a pretty regular basis.... again NO


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😂😂😂

They’re all so bummed they didn't get to arrest him
 
AJK129 said:
It comes down to how good you look. If you look aesthetic while open carrying a lot less people will care than the greasy 300lb man who just crawled out of his basement.

Or just wear a cowboy hat, its an open carry pass
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You’re probably right about the cowboy hat, but you definitely don’t wanna look like a whack job and do it.. although I do know few people that open carry that look like they’re off their f***ing rocker. But they’re harmless. I guess I’d perceive it differently if I didn’t know them it also depends where you do it.
If you’re out in the sticks, no one even gonna care
 
The Anchor said:
some of us have been around long enough to see it play out....not scared, just would rather spend my money on "fun" things....you do you though
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yeah. I have been around a while, certainly long enough to know we have more 2A freedom now than at any point in my life,

When I hear other gun owners say, If you need to defend yourself with a gun it will ruin your life and you will go to jail, if you open carry you will be unsuitable and loose everything. Makes you wonder what part of the problem may be
 
AMV said:
yeah. I have been around a while, certainly long enough to know we have more 2A freedom now than at any point in my life,

When I hear other gun owners say, If you need to defend yourself with a gun it will ruin your life and you will go to jail, if you open carry you will be unsuitable and loose everything. Makes you wonder what part of the problem may be
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The vast majority of the confederate south in the 80s didn't let you carry a gun? Blows my mind why though? Thought the south was the free part of the country?
 
Hard Times Create Strong Men, Strong Men Create Good Times, Good Times Create Weak Men, Weak Men Create Hard Times

Second amendment freedoms have seen some hard times 50-60 years or more wonder who created it
 
G4Y4HK said:
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The vast majority of the confederate south in the 80s didn't let you carry a gun? Blows my mind why though? Thought the south was the free part of the country?
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If I'm not mistaken, that's concealed carry. There was a stigma against concealed carry for a long time in this country. If you wanted to hide the fact that you had a gun it was thought you had something else to hide as well. I believe open carry was legal in most of those red states.
 
AMV said:
Some of you guys are scared of everything
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Are you going to pay the $20k-$30k to fight a suitability denial/revoked, it’s not likely to go your way until you get to the Fed courts.
 
appraiser said:
Very much so

It has to be clearly articulated and if you got jammed up for open carrying and you appealed it to a District Court, chances are the Licensing Authority would be able to convince a Judge that you lacked the ability to use good judgement in the carrying of a weapon especially if there was a police response and lockdown or other event
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iirc MA Supreme court has ruled specifically that you are NOT responsible for any panic caused by open carrying.

If you look well put together most people will assume you are a detective or super special security person, or something like that. I remember seeing a few people open carrying in the 00's as a kid and that's what I assumed. I didn't know of any gun owners as a kid besides 1 duck hunter and a couple friends dads who were cops. Guns just arent a part of the culture in eastern MA, sad as that may be.

Some people who don't pay attention to the issue probably think a civilian carrying a gun is illegal in MA! And in some towns it sort of half was for many years.

All that said, I'd be cautious with how and where you go about open carrying in MA.
 
appraiser said:
and I assume you are in Florida

Yes, even before Constitutional Carry came into law recently in FL, there was an exception for carrying a weapon without a permit under the conditions you outlined.

There was a man who went out of his way to OC claiming he was going fishing, and he would have fishing gear with him and was able to point to a place he was heading to fish

He loved to "educate" the Police on Fl law 790.33

Do I think his roaming along Fort Myers Beach in the middle of Spring Break with an AR platform rifle in plain sight was a wise thing to do?

No.

Do I think it was a wise idea to do a similar thing in a park I am at on a pretty regular basis.... again NO


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJNFYEKaYVc
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Yeah..Ive seen this stuff........unwanted attention to LEO can produce bad results in a Darwin Award type of way.

Lets face it, your not dealing with brain surgeons for LEO. Your dealing with jacked up, overzealous people with guns, who some of have very strong superiority complexes, and very poor de escalation skills.

Its smart to go out of your way not to deal with people like that, to show that you can basically skirt a statute.....mature people would just CC.

That said...if cops are bothering an actual person fishing or hunting down here OC ing. They are fxcking stupid. Theres plenty of reason to OC when your standing on a waters edge with water full of gators and snakes that can eat you.
 
42! said:
Are you going to pay the $20k-$30k to fight a suitability denial/revoked, it’s not likely to go your way until you get to the Fed courts.
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I don’t see it very likely I would be in a situation where I got denied or revoked, but yea I would if needs be….. it would not scare me off from living life.
 
My town has been through a few Chiefs and licensing officers since I lived here. Only one jerk most recently and he is gone, thank goodness.

One officer many years ago brought this topic up and said I know we have open carry but we ask you to conceal your firearms so every time you go to the Big Y I don't have to get a call about a man with a gun at the grocery store and we have to respond. He also said I'd rather you conceal and have it on you then leave it in the car in the parking lot to be stolen with it.

So I carry and no one knows but you and the internet.

Even my neighbor who loves Joe Biden and Kamala Harris thinks I'm a great guy because he doesn't know I'm voting for Trump, I carry a gun and ignore his political bullshit and hatred for freedom.

I understand he is not very intelligent and a brainwashed liberal but I try not to judge and hold his inadequacies against him.
 
Mark from ? said:
That said...if cops are bothering an actual person fishing or hunting down here OC ing. They are fxcking stupid. Theres plenty of reason to OC when your standing on a waters edge with water full of gators and snakes that can eat you.
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True, but some of those people fishing are contriving the fishing part so the can OC and make a point.
 
AMV said:
I don’t see it very likely I would be in a situation where I got denied or revoked, but yea I would if needs be….. it would not scare me off from living life.
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Don't be hyperbolic, it's not about living life, its CC or OC, that's it. And you MIGHT not be at risk, but before you go encouraging others, step up and offer to pay their expenses. Your opinion means little when you have no skin in the game.
 
In God We Trust said:
Now we have a situation where say I walk into a store and a robbery is in progress or one kicks off while I’m pursuing the Cheetos selection. Now I’m probably gonna get shot or have to shoot.

f*** open carry. By all means, do what makes you happy. If you want to OC, then do it and God be with you.
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This is the main reason I will not open carry. If I am unfortunate enough to be in a store at the same time some fool is robbing it, I just want to be a bystander NOT a target. If a reason presents itself where I feel I need to use my firearm, I want it to be a surprise.
 
I'm seeing a lot of people here are scared at the mere thought of any sheeple catching a glimpse of the gun they're carrying while out and about. Sure, open carry is 'technically' legal, but what if you're conceal carrying and walk outside to the parking lot after shopping and a gust of air blew your shirt up and a pearl clutcher sees the big scary GLOCK on your hip? OMG. 911 what's your emergency? THERE'S A MAN WITH A GUN OUTSIDE STOP N SHOP.
 
G4Y4HK said:
I'm seeing a lot of people here are scared at the mere thought of any sheeple catching a glimpse of the gun they're carrying while out and about. Sure, open carry is 'technically' legal, but what if you're conceal carrying and walk outside to the parking lot after shopping and a gust of air blew your shirt up and a pearl clutcher sees the big scary GLOCK on your hip? OMG. 911 what's your emergency? THERE'S A MAN WITH A GUN OUTSIDE STOP N SHOP.
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Every NES OC thread = pantshitting whataboutism

View: https://youtu.be/ulLHWxtlR8Y?si=4XX3RgcNnZlVpT-s
 
drgrant said:
Every NES OC thread = pantshitting whataboutism

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I’m not personally a pants shitter, but I really can’t think of one single benefit to open carry aside from a second or 2 of draw speed. Those couple seconds are moot if the bad guy already knows you are carrying.

Can anyone think of any other good reasons that may tip the scales against the drawbacks?
 
In God We Trust said:
I’m not personally a pants shitter, but I really can’t think of one single benefit to open carry aside from a second or 2 of draw speed. Those couple seconds are moot if the bad guy already knows you are carrying.

Can anyone think of any other good reasons that may tip the scales against the drawbacks?
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If it was a lot more common and everywhere you want you saw it, I think it could be a detterence. But I agree with you on it
 
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