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Dude. He f***ing butchered it. Scorched earth policy should be in effect
Out him out so others here won’t get taken for a ride.
Anyone can make a mistake, but It’s another thing to own up to it and make it right. On top of that he’s going to argue that he screwed up and put the blame on you for wanting a new stock?
Maybe he should of taken a step back to realize that maybe the task is too much for him.
Maybe he got 5 stars for being a gunsmith that installs Glock night sights.
Anyone can make a mistake, but It’s another thing to own up to it and make it right. On top of that he’s going to argue that he screwed up and put the blame on you for wanting a new stock?
Maybe he should of taken a step back to realize that maybe the task is too much for him.
Maybe he got 5 stars for being a gunsmith that installs Glock night sights.
snax
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You'd be surprised on what will earn 5 stars these days... ever read reviews? Alot are even phony.
On sites all the time before I buy I read positive and negative. People are morons...
for examle....
5 stars... Product looks great! I haven't used it yet though. But it's just what I wanted.
1 star.... Product is great, works great, but FedEx arrived 1 day late. Unacceptable.
I had a business that I set up a Facebook page for. I paid a company to help move me up in google search, manage it all, etc, because I didn't have the time, and it was actually cheaper than having an employee do it.....
They were awesome at fabricating fake 5 star reviews from customers.... this was even before I got my first customer.
So if he messed it up like that. evidently he was using the drill at high speed and a cheap bit that wasn't worth a dime. A good carpenter would never make that mistake. Looks like you were his first customer for a comb?
AHM
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Uh, so there are longitudinal fasteners in the stock
which screw into metal inserts - not into raw wood - right?
And he cut away part of the stock to reuse as the adjustable comb, right?
So either he cut too deep and hit the cavities for those inserts.
Or he screwed fasteners into those inserts and ran them too deep,
and busted the wood out when bottomed out.
Amirite?
I wouldn't even speculate, except for the fact that ham radios
have started getting decals on their sides warning the maximum
length of mounting bolts you can use to secure them to a mobile mount.
See the "M4X6 MAX" decal?
That's because some poor bastard loses a screw,
replaces it with a longer one with the same thread,
and torques that bad boy down tight.
The threaded hole is open-bottomed -
just a threaded part of the chassis,
or an auxiliary fastener plate (tee-nut?) riveted to the chassis.
And so when the guy cranks down on the machine screw,
it destroys components inside the radio; or in this case,
digs a giant gouge into the multi-layer PC board.
Replacement cost must be many hundreds of dollars,
and if the guy is monkeying around with mounting bolts,
he may never have used the radio before destroying it.
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too bad about the stock, horrible job
we got the makings of a nes pig pile here. the rank and file smell blood in the water.
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i'm gonna guess this guy was a regular gunsmith with little to none experience in wood and not an experienced stock specialist. any time someone comes on here wanting to get their stock cut i'm screaming go to a stock guy, not a gunsmith. a professional is going to use established templates to guide in hole drilling.
we got the makings of a nes pig pile here. the rank and file smell blood in the water.
ask him maybe
i'm gonna guess this guy was a regular gunsmith with little to none experience in wood and not an experienced stock specialist. any time someone comes on here wanting to get their stock cut i'm screaming go to a stock guy, not a gunsmith. a professional is going to use established templates to guide in hole drilling.
3k for a citori stock?? gonna be one hell of a piece of wood for 3k.
Im not a pro but I have had to mount adjustable combs to get guns to fit.
From shotguns, rifles , air rifles ect ect
1. Problem I think is wrong stock for the application. Unless I just cant tell that does not look like a Monte Carlo stock. A 50 year experience STOCK “maker” would have led you down that. Road.
1. If he got lazy and just drilled the set screw holes through the wood into the bushings and tried running the tap through the wood into the metal that sucks. I personally drill the “tap” hole size through wood into the bushings, then slightly enlarge the wood hole and tap only the metal. I use tung oil to treat the fresh cut wood.
$1000 to install both comb and recoil pad is to much IMHO, especially for that level of work.
The wood repair looks better but still not that nice considering some stock repairs I have seen over the years. That repair is what I call “utilitarian” or for a old working gun like a 311 SXS thats in the field all the time.
Depends on the model and grade a bade plain jain piece if walnut will run $300-$1000 , now you dont have a matching set of wood under the barrel.too bad about the stock, horrible job
we got the makings of a nes pig pile here. the rank and file smell blood in the water.
ask him maybe
i'm gonna guess this guy was a regular gunsmith with little to none experience in wood and not an experienced stock specialist. any time someone comes on here wanting to get their stock cut i'm screaming go to a stock guy, not a gunsmith. a professional is going to use established templates to guide in hole drilling.
3k for a citori stock?? gonna be one hell of a piece of wood for 3k.
We still dont know exactly what “citori” he has or the grade?
I would at least name the shop ,
Midwest gun works had “trap” stocks.
In hindsight does little for you now but at $1000 you could have been into a BT100 for trap. Or looked for a browing citori Gold Trap used from someone stepping up to the expensive trap guns?
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a really good wood guy should be able to just replace the comb after finding a piece of wood that would closely match the rest of the stock. everyone f***s up, it just sucks more when it happens to you.
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and yes, i would be furious.
rep308
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That is bad, unacceptable. Good luck sorting this out. That is a 8/10 on the F'up scale. I've used Ken Rucker, and locally Sergey both of which have done great work
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Asaltweapon
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Pissed?
Oh ya I’d be f***ing bullshit!!!!
Oh ya I’d be f***ing bullshit!!!!
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Shark_Cage
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If you live in Mass you can send him a chapter 93 A letter. You Sue him in small claims court and if you win you get triple damages. If you go that route get another gunsmith to look at it and certify it’s substandard work.
Also, out the bastard. Sounds like an arrogant old FUDD.
Also, out the bastard. Sounds like an arrogant old FUDD.
I've seen tradesman with hands that shook and didn't have a straight finger on them that were still absolute craftsmen. Just sayin. I think lack of skill, over confidence and deceit is what we are seeing.
Matt
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After looking at your last pictures, he definitely DID NOT know what he was doing, he made the cut too deep and went into the hollow part of your stock where the access to the stock bolt is. He should be ashamed to return something like that back to you! Very sad.
How the f*ck did he make those random holes in the wood? Was this guy using it to play catch with his dog?
Sorry this happened to you man.
Too many people call themselves "Gunsmith" yet all they have ever done was install triggers and polish some internals. Stuff anyone can do sitting on a couch watching TV.
Sorry this happened to you man.
Too many people call themselves "Gunsmith" yet all they have ever done was install triggers and polish some internals. Stuff anyone can do sitting on a couch watching TV.
rep308
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He made the initial cut too low, exposing the holes for the Browning stock mounting. He then made the holes too low on the comb piece causing the chip to fly off. 0 for 2 on the important dimensions. At least that is my non gunsmith diagnosis.
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