Olympic Shooting eyed for Billerica Club...but wait

[Kevski]

Okay I will admit - I have already had a few but.....

After reading the Lowell Sun's article pertaining to the Billerica club being eyed as a venue for the Olympic shooting events I thought, with all of the senseless firearms laws in this state how will olympic participants be able to legally transport their firearms. Surely they will not have to pay the $100 for a safety class then pay $100 for the interview and then wait several months for their license....

Further, the talking heads were also talking about using the UMASS Lowell dorms as housing - surely you can't bring a firearm onto a college campus.

I will admit I am unsure of the actual types of shooting that is done in the olympics - is it air pistol - or are real firearms used so this question may be DOA - but I am sure all the people at the statehouse on board with the olympic boondoggle have no clue either.

 

[Mountain]

No kidding- I was wondering how this would work. IIRC, rifle and pistol events are 22LR; but there are also trap and skeet events.

So yes, real firearms. While there will be the usual NESers who will compensate for something via claiming 22LR is not a real caliber (), legally it is.

 

[bostonasphalt2]

Doesn't matter what the rules are, special provisions and rules will be made to accommodate the sport if the Olympics settle here. Were you serious with the questions, or just pointing out the inanity of it all?

 

[Waher]

I used to live next to that club. There's no way it can be an Olympic venue. The only access to it is from a 2 lane road surrounded by wetlands which is already clogged at times from office park traffic. The only other possible access if new roads were built would be through residential neighborhoods which are rabbit warrens of cul-de-sacs.

 

[Kevski]

Doesn't matter what the rules are, special provisions and rules will be made to accommodate the sport if the Olympics settle here. Were you serious with the questions, or just pointing out the inanity of it all?

Yes I was serious with the questions and I think the insanity has already been well documented here on NES.

I do think that as a matter of public policy it is interesting to think about, and a worthy consideration as the law is the law - and if we have to abide by these laws exceptions shouldn't really be made for others.

Thinking very far down the road but if the olympics come to massachusetts and the rowing is held on the Merrimack River in Lowell - hopefully my family can rent their houses out for $10,000 a week, or more, which is a stones throw from where the rowing events would be held.

They have the asian water festival here every year in this area of Lowell and the streets are MOBBED - can you imagine the olympics.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Doesn't matter what the rules are, special provisions and rules will be made to accommodate the sport if the Olympics settle here. Were you serious with the questions, or just pointing out the inanity of it all?

Correct.

I would be willing to bet that a gun ban in the Olympic venue except for "special people" gets enacted if the games come to MA.

I had a lengthy conversation with a member of the Olympic shotgun team from MANY years ago. Provisions were made for the athletes to have access to their weapons for cleaning, inspection, preparation - but they were stored at a facility offsite (and a bus ride away from) the Olympic housing.

 

[Kevski]

Correct.

I would be willing to bet that a gun ban in the Olympic venue except for "special people" gets enacted if the games come to MA.

I had a lengthy conversation with a member of the Olympic shotgun team from MANY years ago. Provisions were made for the athletes to have access to their weapons for cleaning, inspection, preparation - but they were stored at a facility offsite (and a bus ride away from) the Olympic housing.

Interesting - thanks

 

[HARRYM]

It's just the 2024 thieves making bribes to as many folks as they can curry favor with...

It's a billion dollar boon doggle, don't let it happen.

 

[bostonasphalt2]

Yes I was serious with the questions and I think the insanity has already been well documented here on NES.

I do think that as a matter of public policy it is interesting to think about, and a worthy consideration as the law is the law - and if we have to abide by these laws exceptions shouldn't really be made for others.

Thinking very far down the road but if the olympics come to massachusetts and the rowing is held on the Merrimack River in Lowell - hopefully my family can rent their houses out for $10,000 a week, or more, which is a stones throw from where the rowing events would be held.

They have the asian water festival here every year in this area of Lowell and the streets are MOBBED - can you imagine the olympics.

I guess for me, the whole discussion of "why do they get different rules than what I have to abide by?!?" has gotten a little long in the tooth. The reality is, this kind of shit exists systematically in every function of government, to the point where, for me, it isnt interesting to discuss anymore.

 

[LoginName]

No kidding- I was wondering how this would work. IIRC, rifle and pistol events are 22LR; but there are also trap and skeet events.

So yes, real firearms. While there will be the usual NESers who will compensate for something via claiming 22LR is not a real caliber (), legally it is.

Correct.

I would be willing to bet that a gun ban in the Olympic venue except for "special people" gets enacted if the games come to MA.

I had a lengthy conversation with a member of the Olympic shotgun team from MANY years ago. Provisions were made for the athletes to have access to their weapons for cleaning, inspection, preparation - but they were stored at a facility offsite (and a bus ride away from) the Olympic housing.

Could be a moot point if this remains the new way of dong things...

http://www.wired.com/2012/08/modern-pentathlon-laser-pistols/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ol...d-over-air-pistols-for-modern-pentathlon.html

 

[colt_fan]

Here is a short video from Sochi, nothing new to the athletes.

https://youtu.be/M06mThrxE5I

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[mclina]

There was another article that said they were considering Nashoba Valley Ski Area in Westford for canoeing or kayaking events. This was supposedly written up in the formal Boston 2024 proposal. They interviewed the owner of the place, and he hadn't heard anything about it.


Edit:

http://www.westfordcatnews.org/2015/06/westford-named-in-boston-2024-olympic-bid/

 

[MisterHappy]

There was a crew from Channel 5 at the Mass State shoot, yesterday:

http://www.wcvb.com/news/billerica-sets-sights-on-hosting-olympic-shooting-events/33567284

 

[Len-2A Training]

I wonder how the members of any club will feel when they realize that they will be banned from using their club for a month or two "due to security reasons" and the club will probably get paid chickenfeed for the "privilege"?

I know that I would never vote for such an intrusion at any club I'd belong to.

It wouldn't surprise me if the planners are pipe-dreaming and haven't received any permission or interest from the venues they are spouting in their proposals. Perhaps they think that they can get the gov't to take over those properties temporarily by eminent domain? Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

 

[dhuze]

You know it will all be special privilege for Olympians. Most countries don't allow firearms and make special provisions. Even Mass has laws for shooting events. Of course nothing about staying there and shooting.
Knowing how generous Mass politicians are, they'll move the shooting up to NH. Maybe Nashua.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Perhaps they think that they can get the gov't to take over those properties temporarily by eminent domain?

More likely, the figure it is so "obvious" that any venue would want the Olympics, that they consider it a non issue.

 

[MisterHappy]

Well, if a club can get an outside entity to build a few International Bunkers (not cheap!) that will be left behind after the Games, that might be an incentive.

IIRC there are 2 International Bunkers at MMSC, and that required a lot of bucks, even for a club as well-heeled as they are.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

I wonder how the members of any club will feel when they realize that they will be banned from using their club for a month or two "due to security reasons" and the club will probably get paid chickenfeed for the "privilege"?

Also consider that those voting on accepting the Olympics (ie, the club board) are likely to get either low level support staff positions (probably unpaid) or VIP passes to the activities.

 

[Asaltweapon]

I've shot trap at Billerica. Nice club and some great people who were friends before I knew they were members but there are larger and nicer clubs out there. Then there is the issue of the club accepting being a host for such a small gain.

The Olympics are not coming to Boston IMO as the last poll showed and the club is in no way large enough to handle that kind of crowd.

Oh and the Lowell Sun sucks.

 

[yanici]

I've shot trap at Billerica. Nice club and some great people who were friends before I knew they were members but there are larger and nicer clubs out there. Then there is the issue of the club accepting being a host for such a small gain.

The Olympics are not coming to Boston IMO as the last poll showed and the club is in no way large enough to handle that kind of crowd.

Oh and the Lowell Sun sucks.

I agree. Can't see it working in Billerica.

 

[Hoover]

Any talk of olympic venues is comical. The idea of the olympics here has no support and even with support, there is no way boston would be out the euro options which are much much better.

Look at the list of largest cities in the world, NY is in the 20's or something. This is a very small area vs. the euro cities and it's not a place that would work for a lot of reasons.

 

[yanici]

According to a Herald article the venue isn't to be held at the Billerica Gun Club but at the Billerica Minuteman Sportsmen's Club. Very nice place. Linky: http://www.minutemansportsmen.com/

 

[M1911]

Okay I will admit - I have already had a few but.....

After reading the Lowell Sun's article pertaining to the Billerica club being eyed as a venue for the Olympic shooting events I thought, with all of the senseless firearms laws in this state how will olympic participants be able to legally transport their firearms. Surely they will not have to pay the $100 for a safety class then pay $100 for the interview and then wait several months for their license....

That's not an issue. Out of state competitors routinely bring in firearms for matches.

Further, the talking heads were also talking about using the UMASS Lowell dorms as housing - surely you can't bring a firearm onto a college campus.

Surely you can. You just need written permission from the President of the college, which in this case would be forthcoming.

I will admit I am unsure of the actual types of shooting that is done in the olympics - is it air pistol - or are real firearms used so this question may be DOA - but I am sure all the people at the statehouse on board with the olympic boondoggle have no clue either.

There are a number of Olympic shooting events, including air pistol, air rifle, small bore pistol, small bore rifle, skeet, and trap.

 

[Len-2A Training]

According to a Herald article the venue isn't to be held at the Billerica Gun Club but at the Billerica Minuteman Sportsmen's Club. Very nice place. Linky: http://www.minutemansportsmen.com/

I'd love to see a post here by an officer of said club giving their opinion of the Olympics using that club and shutting down member access for a few months.

Again I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't someone's pipedream without actually vetting the club's management first . . . or a single officer asked about it without vetting it thru the membership.

 

[drgrant]

Part of the problem with this olympics bullshit is there are a bunch of douchebags in the media etc acting like its a foregone conclusion it will be here, etc. The olympic fapping club is basically trying to pull the public opinion blunderbuss job and make it seem like people actually want this shit, they're trying to pull a Goebbels big lie theory on us.... tell a lie enough times and eventually it becomes the truth. They will basically run around calling people heathens and troglodytes that dare oppose the olympics, calling us uncultured or some bullshit like that.

-Mike