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More Women Pack Pistols?

Updated 10:03 AM ET November 14, 2005

When she moved from California to Arizona, Judy Dutko, had a short list of must-dos upon her arrival in her new home: obtain a driver's license, join a church and register for a gun.

"I refuse to be a victim, so basically that's why I got interested," said Dutko who is in her 50s. "Most people will go through their life and never have a problem but if you're prepared, then you can take care of a situation."

The retired history teacher is part of what appears to be a growing number of women who view carrying a weapon as an essential part of their safety, which has led the firearms industry to offer women only training classes, magazines and clothing for female gun owners.

"We get calls from women who didn't grow up around firearms ... yet they have an interest in their personal safety ... and it kind of goes from there. We've seen such an increase in participation in our programs," said NRA spokesperson Kelly Hobbs. "It does seem to at least stem from that interest in protecting their families and themselves."
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Although, critics claim guns may not improve your safety.

According to the Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence, if you have a gun at home, it's at least 20 times more likely to end up accidentally shooting you than it is to protect you from an intruder.

Still, women like Dutko feel safer with a firearm.

While there is no one statistic regarding female gun ownership nationwide, just look at the product racks in an outdoor sports store and it's apparent women are shopping.

"I have a holster purse," said Dutko. "They're very sharp. I don't want to look masculine I don't want to wear fatigues, plus I don't even hunt ... but there is more and more out there for women."

"We got really serious about it about three years ago," said Browning technical apparel product manager Mark Francis. "We tried to react to the demand that we're getting ... more dealers are saying more women are getting into the sport."

When the 109-year-old, Utah-based gun company began offering shooting clothes and hunting apparel for women, it had to create more than just specific sizes. The women demanded more colors then the men, with changes each season. "It just follows the fashion trends. If lavenders and pinks are in, that's what they want," said Francis.

Gun Owners With Sass

One night, Mary Thompson, 68, was driving home and noticed a car that seemed to be following her vehicle.

"I recognized that if these fellows had been able to get me off the road, I was a dead duck," said Thompson.

She was not a gun owner, but decided it was time she armed herself for protection -- now Thompson pops a pistol in her purse when she feels her safety may be at risk. When she started going to classes and researching firearms, she found few resources specifically geared toward ladies in this somewhat masculine field.

She met other women who also felt left out and began forming the organization Second Amendment Sisters, known more simply as SAS, for which she now serves as president.

The group offers women's only firearms classes, and Thompson said she also uses the group to change the stereotypes about women and guns which range from Hollywood images of sexy spies, to some unflattering images.

"What we still fight is the image of the big-haired, snaggle-toothed, chewing tobacco woman from the Deep South," said Thompson. "We don't hear much of that anymore."

While she said it is not aggressive in encouraging women to arm themselves, the group is dedicated to a strong, literal interpretation of the Second Amendment.

"We are a one-issue organization and that issue is self-defense is a basic human right," said Thompson. "We believe that women are often targeted by criminals because usually we're smaller, weaker, and we are interested in educating women and offering them the possibility of owning and carrying a gun if that's what interests them."

Dutko has a more personal reason for supporting gun rights: "I taught U.S. history. I'm a strict constitutionalist. The Second Amendment is No. 2!"
From Protection to a Pastime

What Thompson didn't expect when she began carrying a gun for security, was how much fun she would have aiming at targets.

"Its fun to target shoot, its fun to skeet shoot, all sorts of things," said Thompson. "It's amazing how many, many times women have gone from being almost hysterical about it to becoming very good shooters and loving it."

"Personally I like to go to a very controlled environment," said Dutko. "I like to go to a shooting parlor where you have an individual booth."

The sport is a competitive one where Thompson said women clearly have a place. "We have better hand to eye coordination and No. 2, we listen to instruction," said Thompson.

They are certainly not alone in this activity. The NRA offers women-only hunting trips, and according to Hobbs, the association's firearms training classes for women have grown from 13 clinics five years ago to the current offering of 200 classes nationwide. She's also noticed firearms companies catering to this group.

"They realize that women do enjoy the shooting sports and they're willing to spend money on products specially designed for them. And that's everything from eyewear to clothing, firearms, purses designed to carry firearms," said Hobbs.

"One of the places here in town -- ladies shoot free on Thursday," said Dutko.

But others question this marketing as nothing more than a push for more business.

"They are actively marketing to women these days ... focusing on the idea that you're women so you're smaller then men," said Zach Ragbourn. He's a spokesman for the Brady Campaign and said it's "troubling that they would use fear to sell a product that doesn't improve your safety ... whether or not carrying a gun is an effective deterrent is still an open question."
 
Ummmmmm Girls and guns......

Ill find a cutie with a Sig one of these days :D

If she own's a glock, regardles of her own appearance, she's ugly-by-association :D
Ok back on topic........
Great story... Wasnt in any papers around here, correct?
 
The only thing that bothers me about the article is the way that the Brady Bunch comes in and sort of "sets the record straight." The poor deluded women "feel" safer, but the "facts" show otherwise. More than 20 times more likely to shoot someone accidently than protect yourself? What drug-induced fantasy did that one come from?

Once upon a time reporters actually dug up real data and facts on their own, rather simply parrot whatever garbage someone handed them. Too bad those days are long past. Sorry for the rant, particularly since it's an otherwise good article.

Ken
 
KMaurer said:
The only thing that bothers me about the article is the way that the Brady Bunch comes in and sort of "sets the record straight."
Ken

I agree with you Ken. The Brady people made up that number years ago and no one in the media has EVER questioned it. There is no data to support their story. In fact I seem to remember that the available data disputes it.

Gary
 
It's typical Ken. The Brady Bunch, et al, lies and no one bothers to check them. It's major league BS and we all know it. I'm 20 times more likely to be raped again if I'm unarmed. There Sarah...prove THAT wrong. [roll]
 
Lynne said:
I'm 20 times more likely to be raped again if I'm unarmed.

Lynne, I suspect that even if you ARE unarmed, the next idiot that tries to rape you will be looking for his cojones after you get through with him. [twisted]
 
dwarven1 said:
Lynne said:
I'm 20 times more likely to be raped again if I'm unarmed.

Lynne, I suspect that even if you ARE unarmed, the next idiot that tries to rape you will be looking for his cojones after you get through with him. [twisted]

Well...there's that too. [lol]
 
What amazes me is that we have way over 20 people at one of my Family Reunions down at my family's land in Kentucky.

And every single one of them has at least three guns in the trunk when they get there.

We have skeet contests for the grown-ups. Plinking cans on sticks for the kids, and everyone is shooting one thing or another. Yet there hasn't been one person shot in the 30 years that I've been going to these things.

We just must be an anomaly.
 
Lynne said:
C-pher said:
We just must be an anomaly.

No...but the Brady Bunch, et al, would like everyone else to think so.

I don't know Lynee. My family has roots there for a lot longer than I've been around. And when I talk to my grandfather, the only thing that my grandfather said he wanted to shoot was his dog.

But that was only because when they were moving the outhouse, he jumped into the old hole before it could get filled up with the dirt from the new hole.
 
Of course you're more likely to accidentally get shot if there's a gun in the house , just like you're more likely to get stabbed if there's a knife in the house, or you're more likely to fall down stairs if there's stairs in the house... it's just common sense.

It's just the way they present 'the facts' that's bad.
 
Lynne said:
C-pher said:
But that was only because when they were moving the outhouse, he jumped into the old hole before it could get filled up with the dirt from the new hole.

[lol] [lol] [lol] Ick...


Yea, considering that the hole was full.

I about peed myself when he was telling me that story. My grandfather almost couldn't finish telling the story he was laughing so hard. I love hearing them tell these old stories.
 
Nickle said:
Yeah, Ross knows at least one female Glock owner that's not to be screwed with. You did know that gun was her's, right, Ross?

Gee, Nickle... you only brag about Marlyn once a week or so and her Glock divorce papers. [roll]
 
dwarven1 said:
Gee, Nickle... you only brag about Marlyn once a week or so and her Glock divorce papers. [roll]

Guess I kind of forgot that one, and it's her attorney is Gaston Glock. Now most serious gun folks know who he is, but most other folks don't.
 
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