Odd 9mm brass

[Mass Predator]

As a brass whore I was collecting brass and came across "maxx tech" 9mm brass.....I instantly felt that it was too heavy and figured I had a klingon....nope. If you look down the case all appears normal until you look into it....there is a "bullet ledge" or a stop. This added brass goes all the way down to the rim and is all one piece. Any one know why....why all the extra brass....and why? To limit the powder charge? Asked my "old timer expert" and he had never seen anything like it.

 

[DW357]

No idea. Got any pics?

 

[Mass Predator]

No sorry I don't. Imagine the lower half of the case having walls approx 4 times thicker than at the top.

 

[DW357]

Interesting. I'm sure NavelOfficer or EddieCoyle may have some info on this?

 

[LoginName]

No idea. Got any pics?

 

[Mass Predator]

There it is! Thanks.

 

[DW357]

Thanks.

 

[drgrant]

That's interesting, I'm sure its some means of trying to skinflint on the manufacturing process.

-Mike

 

[DW357]

That's interesting, I'm sure its some means of trying to skinflint on the manufacturing process.

-Mike

Those damn Bosnians...

 

[45collector]

I just saw that same brass at the last IDPA match. One of the other shooters had picked it up and was showing it to a few others. I asked to see it and yup, exactly like you describe. Same headstamp and odd "ledge" inside. I don't think anyone who saw it could come up with a reason to why they exist.

 

[LoginName]

That's interesting, I'm sure its some means of trying to skinflint on the manufacturing process.

-Mike

From some of the reviews I skimmed through it sounds like its crap ammo.

Might be suitable for shit's 'n' giggles plinking at most.

 

[Knob Creek]

Just when you think you've seen it all....

 

[nstassel]

I hit a few of those in the press. My 147 bullets won't get all the way in those. Another type of case to toss in the bin along with the swaged wins and ftc nt cases.

 

[peterthefish]

Toss it - the cases split along the diameter where the shelf is leaving a ring of brass in your chamber.

As for swaged cases, set them aside! I (and others using a 1050) will be happy to buy them if you get enough to make shipping worthwhile.

 

[DW357]

Another type of case to toss in the bin along with the swaged wins and ftc nt cases.

Swaged winchester cases? Never had any issues with Win brass.

 

[Eric H]

I've reloaded them with some 115 gr. Berry's for plinking ammo. I haven't had any issues with them yet, I think I've got two reloads on the cases I have out of the whole bunch. I probably only have about 50-100 of them.

 

[Fixxah]

Just a wag. Prevention of glocked cases.

 

[Dennis in MA]

Just a wag. Prevention of glocked cases.

That was my first thought. A solution looking for a problem.

 

[nstassel]

Swaged winchester cases? Never had any issues with Win brass.

Don't you run across those with the crimped primer? Sometimes they take a primer and sometimes it gets distorted.

 

[MRE]

It sounds like the ledge would prevent bullet setback, caused by multiple chamberings of the same round. This would be a good thing for defensive ammo, but probably not cost effective or necessary for target ammo.

 

[DW357]

Don't you run across those with the crimped primer? Sometimes they take a primer and sometimes it gets distorted.

Hmm I don't recall running into this before. I'll certainly look at these more closely.

 

[peterthefish]

Hmm I don't recall running into this before. I'll certainly look at these more closely.

Crimped Winchester cases usually have a WCC headstamp, usually with year and NATO cross. In the last few months I've come across a couple dozen crimped cases that look like typical WWB cases with Winchester head stamp.

 

[DW357]

Crimped Winchester cases usually have a WCC headstamp, usually with year and NATO cross. In the last few months I've come across a couple dozen crimped cases that look like typical WWB cases with Winchester head stamp.

I'm aware of the WCC headstamp but you guys are saying there's "Win" headstamp that has crimped primer pockets??

 

[peterthefish]

I'm aware of the WCC headstamp but you guys are saying there's "Win" headstamp that has crimped primer pockets??

Yup.

 

[swampy]

Any chance those 9mms are for firing in a MG that might not have a fully closed bolt at firing? ...and set back prevention is a good plus too.

 

[swampy]

The mil brass is worth the effort to pop the crimp out. I put them aside until I have 500 or so then gang decap and decrimp them.

 

[Meehuel]

I found one of those the other day. The XL650 powder level sensor brought it to my attention. It decapped and primed just fine. It's in the scrap bin near the press still if anyone wants a pic.

 

[DW357]

Yup.

Wow had no idea. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[DW357]

@drgrant is it possible to move this to reloading?

I realized I was down to the bottom scraps of my 3rd ammo can of 9mm and figured I need to start making a few more. Well I’m glad I verify each headstamp before putting the case on the press.

I’ve heard of ZQI ammo but haven’t come across their 9mm brass before. It has 2! ledges/rings inside. Watch out for that headstamp when reloading.

 

[drgrant]

@drgrant is it possible to move this to reloading?

I realized I was down to the bottom scraps of my 3rd ammo can of 9mm and figured I need to start making a few more. Well I’m glad I verify each headstamp before putting the case on the press.

I’ve heard of ZQI ammo but haven’t come across their 9mm brass before. It has 2! ledges/rings inside. Watch out for that headstamp when reloading. View attachment 672938View attachment 672939

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ZQI was that Turkish? ammo that walmart was bringing in during one of the obamascares, but then the Walmart tried to flint on them and they dumped them, lol.

It wasnt bad ammo but im not surprised the brass is weird.