Obstruction lights

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I did a search on nes with no results for "obstruction lights".
Have any of you required them personally or at work?
I have done some research but am unsure if i am required too or if inquiring further will cause more problems for me.

I understand every site is different and airfield play a roll. If any of you have experience dealing with fcc, faa pm me. Just just dont want to post my question in open forum.
 
"The FCC has been given the authority by Congress to require the painting and/or illumination of antenna towers when it determines that such towers may otherwise constitute a menace to air navigation. 47 U.S.C. § 303(q). The FCC's rules governing antenna tower lighting and painting requirements are based upon the advisory recommendations of the FAA, which are set forth in two FAA Advisory Circulars. 47 CFR §§ 17.21-17.58. Although the FAA's lighting and painting standards are advisory in nature, the FCC's rules make the standards mandatory. The standards and specifications set forth in these FAA documents are incorporated by reference into the FCC's rules, making these advisory standards mandatory for antenna towers.

The FCC always requires an FAA determination that an antenna tower will not pose an aviation hazard before it will grant permission to build that antenna tower. Information required on the FCC construction permit form advises the FCC staff as to whether such a tower location or height is involved. The FAA's determination takes into consideration the location and height of the proposed tower, and its safety lighting and marking.

Each new or altered antenna tower structure registered must conform to the FAA's painting and lighting recommendations set forth on the structure's FAA determination of "no hazard," and must be cleared with the FAA and filed with the FCC. If the FAA determines that the tower would be a physical hazard, the FCC will not approve the construction permit application. (When, however, the FAA determines that there is an aviation hazard due to possible radiofrequency interference with aviation communication signals, the FCC makes an independent analysis of who will be responsible for resolving possible conflicts, and may not automatically defer to the FAA determination as to what party should bear the cost of any needed equipment changes.)

The FAA advisory circulars set forth detailed specifications for lighting and painting. If, however, the FAA's standards allow more than one lighting or painting option for a particular structure, the person seeking FAA clearance for a tower may indicate on FAA Form 7460-1m which of the specified types of marking and lighting systems is desired. With respect to telecommunications towers, the most common option approved by the FAA is the substitution of white flashing lights for a combination of red lights and painting. Any requests for deviation from standards must be filed electronically on https://oeaaa.faa.gov, by selecting marking and lighting deviation as the structure type.

Where the FAA approves the substitution of high intensity white lights for a combination of red lights and painting, and the antenna tower is located in a residential neighborhood, the Commission requires the applicant to prepare an environmental assessment. 47 CFR § 1.1307(a)(8). The Commission, upon review of the environmental assessment, may determine that the proposed substitution of high intensity white lights would not have a significant impact, and may process the application without further review. 47 CFR § 1.1308(d). If, however, based upon a review of the environmental assessment, the Commission determines that the proposed high intensity lights would have a significant environmental impact upon the human environment, the Commission will inform the applicant. The applicant will have the opportunity to amend its application to eliminate the environmental problem. If the problem is not eliminated, the Commission will publish in the Federal Register a Notice of Intent that an Environmental Impact Statement be prepared. 47 CFR § 1.1308(c). The Commission may, to assist in the preparation of an Environmental Impact Statement, request further information from the applicant, interested persons and other agencies or authorities. The Commission may also direct that objections to the proposed lighting be raised with the appropriate state or local authorities. 47 CFR § 1.1314(d).

As part of the its aeronautical study, the FAA may, if it considers it necessary, solicit comments from or convene a meeting of all interested persons for the purpose of gathering all facts relevant to the effect of the proposed construction on the safe and efficient utilization of the navigable airspace. See 14 CFR §§ 77.35, 77.41-77.69. The FAA regional office forwards its recommendation to FAA headquarters in Washington for final approval. The final FAA determination also must be submitted to the FCC with any antenna construction permit application that requires FAA notification. These structures will be subject to inspection and enforcement of marking and lighting requirements by the FCC.

Although there is no absolute height limit for antenna towers, both agencies have established a rebuttable presumption against structures over 2,000 feet above ground level. The FCC has a policy that applications filed with the FCC for antenna towers higher than 2,000 feet above ground will be presumed to be inconsistent with the public interest and the applicant will have a burden of overcoming that strong presumption. The applicant must accompany its application with a detailed showing directed to meeting this burden. Only in the exceptional case, where the Commission concludes that a clear and compelling showing has been made that there are public interest reasons requiring a tower higher than 2,000 feet above ground, and after the parties have complied with applicable FAA procedures, and full Commission coordination with FAA on the question of menace to air navigation, will a grant be made. See 47 CFR § 1.61 Note.

The FAA presumption against construction of structures over a certain height is set forth in the FAA rules. A proposed structure or an alteration to an existing structure that exceeds 2,000 feet in height above the ground will be presumed to be a hazard to air navigation and to result in an inefficient utilization of airspace and the applicant has the burden of overcoming that presumption. Each notice submitted under the FAA rules proposing a structure in excess of 2,000 feet above ground must contain a detailed showing, directed to meeting this burden. Only in exceptional cases, where the FAA concludes that a clear and compelling showing has been made that it would not result in an inefficient utilization of the airspace and would not result in a hazard to air navigation, will a determination of no hazard be issued. See 14 CFR § 77.17(c)."
 
Jdl, thank you some of your post was new and helpful info.
I also received the help i needed via PM.

All and all i received help on this alot faster than expected.:)
 
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I have all the stuff to do it other than the weather sucking and an issue access the tower..

Once the tower is active we’re going to start the FCC process for various other projects involving the tower.

It’s also going to have cameras and PA system on it to announce firing on my range
 
0DB89183-5519-4E88-BF55-380A50FEC92C.pngGunna put two of these up there for now,we have a much larger solar system that will be going on it..to power everything else .I just didn’t get it installed and with a new issue accessing the tower I just don’t want to hike that many batteries out there.
 
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They work.. its pretty satisfying i wish i had manage to paint the whole tower...and i have to cut an access road... im hoping i can lease it, to cover my property taxes and get some help with maintance and the road. Got to fence it in, get the solar up and running and figure out a standby generator
 
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So ya these lights absolutely sucked, apparently they are only for temporary use like on Cranes or something.... i rigged some batterys up to get me through winter.

I have a hard time getting out there this time of year... but i have the correct equipment now... wind turbine and solar panels and we are going to run fiber and power out too it...

I finally have better safety equipment, ive been climbing this thing way too often with my leg brace on... its a miracle i havent fallen to my death.
 
To me it looks like you have one of four solar panels on each unit blocked by the other, so it appears that you're charging capacity is cut by 25% right off the bat. Do you need two units? Maybe try running just one and see how she does? In any case they look like rugged commercial-grade lamps, and your tower is awesome!
 
I understand what your saying about the panels.....that fact is the entire setup is an overpriced joke. It will get me to the spring, even with The light winter working on it isnt a pleasant experience.

Soon itll will be setup correctly....i have everything, just have to get her done.
 
I don’t know what the F you have going on here, all I know is that I’m jealous. Are you going to be shooting down from the tower?
 
Been haveing disputes with my neighbors over right of ways 3 days later I suspect one of these mother f***ers cut one leg to my tower.... that’s like attempted murder..

only took 30 min to fix...What a child. If i was a piece of shit id have the tower down in 5 min flat...Even if he cut it down I just repaire it and stand it right back up.

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Been haveing disputes with my neighbors over right of ways 3 days later I suspect one of these mother f***ers cut one leg to my tower.... that’s like attempted murder..

only took 30 min to fix...What a child. If i was a piece of shit id have the tower down in 5 min flat...Even if he cut it down I just repaire it and stand it right back up.

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Game cameras.....lots of them.
 
We were three days away from have really nice cameras on the tower and a weather station and other stuff... i have $5000 worth of game cameras... they dont make a game camera that isnt a useless piece of shit for security purposes...

We have really nice POE cameras set up with 4solar panels each and batteries linking Wi-Fi half way up my mountain...
We currently have 4 stations and need two more before we can then have line of sight to the tower...once internet hits the tower we have a serious wifi array that will allow more less complicated stations in area without line of sight to the tower or a station.

we were going to climb the tower to install 8 solar panels when I discovered the cut leg.

Ill Take a photo of the station when I’m up there today so you get an idea what I’m talking about
 
Wow, that's a pretty ballsy move for someone to go to that effort. I hope that's the end of whatever conflict you have going on with your neighbors but it probably isn't. I'm sure you're doing what you need to on your end but I would report to local PD, sherrif, whatever you have for LE where you are, and go on record as aggressively pursuing for resolution. Yikes, thinking about that structure coming down in a dramatic fashion with someone on the platform.
 
As you said, someone willing to do that is flirting with murder. That warrants a police report and waiting will only weaken your case.

(IANAL)
 
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