- Apr 1, 2005
- Near Framingham
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Nope. The logistics of setting up land base for military strike aircraft takes a lot of time. When you need a quick reaction, carriers are key.Don't confuse this with support of Obama in any way, shape, or form, but isn't having carrier based strike groups antiquated?
I dont want my money going to welfare queens, I have no issue of my tax dollars going to national defense, thats what its supposed to be for.I would love to see the mental loops people jump through. How you can morally justify stripping welfare from people to get more weapons is beyond me. Regardless of your stance on welfare you can't just stop paying people that have been weened onto the government stipend and have no out. Especially in a country where our private charity has diminished substantially.
Maybe if we stopped being bitches we'd have fewer enemies. We don't have a weak economy from not blowing up brown people all over the world. We have a weak economy because we blow up brown people all over the world and pay for it on credit card.
One of the few remotely compelling arguments for playing world police and having bases everywhere is global reach... To avoid the pointless nation building and hearts and minds nonsense, we need a way to have a global presense when needed without needing bases everywhere.As long as they are making cuts in areas like Food Stamps and Welfare (which they aren't), I'm fine with 9 carriers instead of 11.
At least it is "justifiable welfare" that is worked for, as opposed to collected while lounging about and stuffing ones face with government cheese. I was actually told to my face once that I am no better than a welfare leech because I am in the military. That was fun.The minute I pressed the "Post Quick Reply" button, I knew that comment was coming.
Well ending the "war on terror" today would be a great start to some nice savings. Afghanistan is a laughable waste of money that most (R)'s and (D)'s just love to defend based off of cliché reasoning.One of the few remotely compelling arguments for playing world police and having bases everywhere is global reach... To avoid the pointless nation building and hearts and minds nonsense, we need a way to have a global presense when needed without needing bases everywhere.
The only way to do that is withy a large navy.
I think in the long run we would be far better off with a large or even larger navy than we are trying to drag Afghanistan kicking and screaming into the 7th century with boots on the ground.
You need good intel, but you don't get that with bases everywhere...
It's like a gambler borrowing over and over again because "this time I'm gonna win!", they never learn.Well ending the "war on terror" today would be a great start to some nice savings. Afghanistan is a laughable waste of money that most (R)'s and (D)'s just love to defend based off of cliché reasoning.
"we cant leave Afghanistan! We, um, we are helping them by fighting the... um... Taliban or al Qaeda... And... Umm.. just becuase a massive majority of the local population has polled repeated over the past 3 years that they want us out now... umm.. doesnt mean we should give up! we lost American lives! We can't quit now!" - Says the typical (R) or (D).
Sometimes I wonder if we have to get this war to Vietnam levels of uselessness and unpopularity to end it. It's become so taboo to criticize the military post 90's that saying we should leave the war is almost seen as an anti military / anti "support your troops" position
China and the U.S wont go to war.
The U.S and Iran wont go to war either.
China wants the U.S navy out just like the U.S wouldnt want Chinas navy hanging out near NY, FL, MA, CA...Whats wrong with that?**
Iran will get a war eventually unless they back down on their nukes. There is a huge game of chicken being played out now w/the new sanctions on the verge of being enacted and the Iranians threatening to close the straight.. The Israeli`s will attack eventually with or without us.
Broccolli, you don`t seem to grasp the geo-political back and forth w/China. They want our Navy out of the South Pacific so they can be the dominating power in Asia. Our allies Japan, SK, Vietnam the Philippines aren`t thrilled w/that idea so they are hedging their bets on us.
Oh yeah...well, my dad is bigger than your dad and he can kick your dads butt.I don't have the balls to join the military.
Yeah Pakistan is A-Ok. They have secure boarders, a strong government and no corruption. They are also a predominantly Christian population with the lowest poverty rate and some of the best education in the world.But Iran is bad and filled with baddies, I mean it is ok for Pakistan to have Nukes because they have no known relations to terrorist
I`m not starting anything. I put my money where my mouth is. I was acquiesced of sending other people to fight my battles. Since 9/11 I have spent almost 3 years on Active Duty and I am still in the USAR.Oh yeah...well, my dad is bigger than your dad and he can kick your dads butt.
Come on RWL, dont start one of those little kids arguments. This is the internet.
Nope. Matt Cooke is back.Are you part of the 303rd Logistical Studies Group out of Fort Griffith?
It was actually a pretty good show... it sucked that they used to wedge it behind like Sunday night football or some crap. I couldn't even DVR the effing show because it was always a moving target because of the football game. So If I wanted to catch the whole thing I had to DVR cold case before it. I think shuffling the time slot around is what destroyed whatever ratings they had left.HA! I used to watch that show.
Only because we keep trying to nationbuild... The amount of shovel ready.BS going in the defense budget as of late is absurd. The old saw of making us weaker if we cut one dollar from defense spending is a bunch of crap at this point. We spend such a ridiculous mount of money that there is plenty to cut without it biting us in the butt, but we do have to commit to not policing the world and spreading our forces all over the known world as Rome did near its end...Can anyone name a time we've cut our military and it hasn't bitten us in the ass a few years later?