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Is anyone surprised?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/21/op...ef=todayspaper
November 21, 2007
Editorial

The Court and the Second Amendment

By agreeing yesterday to rule on whether provisions of the District of Columbia’s stringent gun control law violate the Second Amendment to the Constitution, the Supreme Court has inserted itself into a roiling public controversy with large ramifications for public safety. The court’s move sowed hope and fear among supporters of reasonable gun control, and it ratcheted up the suspense surrounding the court’s current term.

The hope, which we share, is that the court will rise above the hard-right ideology of some justices to render a decision respectful of the Constitution’s text and the violent consequences of denying government broad room to regulate guns. The fear is that it will not.

At issue is a 2-to-1 ruling last March by the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit that found unconstitutional a law barring handguns in homes and requiring that shotguns and rifles be stored with trigger locks or disassembled. The ruling upheld a radical decision by a federal trial judge, who struck down the 31-year-old gun control law on spurious grounds that conform with the agenda of the anti-gun control lobby but cry out for rejection by the Supreme Court.

Much hinges on how the justices interpret the Second Amendment, which says: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

Opponents of gun control sometimes claim a constitutional prohibition on any serious regulation of individual gun ownership. The court last weighed in on the amendment in 1939, concluding, correctly in our view, that the only absolute right conferred on individuals is for the private ownership of guns that has “some reasonable relationship to the preservation of efficiency of a well-regulated militia.” The federal, state and local governments may impose restrictions on other uses — like the trigger guards — or outright bans on types of weapons. Appellate courts followed that interpretation, until last spring’s departure.

A lot has changed since the nation’s founding, when people kept muskets to be ready for militia service. What has not changed is the actual language of the Constitution. To get past the first limiting clauses of the Second Amendment to find an unalienable individual right to bear arms seems to require creative editing.

Beyond grappling with fairly esoteric arguments about the Second Amendment, the justices need to responsibly confront modern-day reality. A decision that upends needed gun controls currently in place around the country would imperil the lives of Americans.
 
Y'know, the range that the Pumpkin Shoot is at has an outdoor fireplace. Since it'll be around 40F on Saturday, maybe we could bring a few copies of the New York Times to start the fire with... G-d knows it'd be the first useful thing that that paper has done in decades. [rolleyes]
 
Only a moonbat rag like the times could justify spewing so much
hyperbole/lies/ignorance (trigger guards? Have they been
talking to McCarthy, you know, about "that thing that goes
up", aka Barrel Shrouds? [laugh] ) to push its agenda. They
could only do one worse by publicizing a video of the editors urinating
on the constitution. Well, that actually would be honest in
content, at least. So in a way the writing is worse than that!

The times should just get it over with and put a hammer and sickle
in their logo.

-Mike
 
Beyond grappling with fairly esoteric arguments about the Second Amendment, the justices need to responsibly confront modern-day reality. A decision that upends needed gun controls currently in place around the country would imperil the lives of Americans.

Errrrmmmm...no. The justices need to rule based on what is in the Constitution today. If they don't like that then ask Congress and the States to amend the Constitution. I wasn't even born here, but it seems I know Constitutional law better than the NYT staffers.

Idiots.
 
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The NY Times lies every day to anyone stupid enough to actually pay any attention to it. Why should today be any different?
 
"Beyond grappling with fairly esoteric arguments about the Second Amendment, the justices need to responsibly confront modern-day reality. A decision that upends needed gun controls currently in place around the country would imperil the lives of Americans."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And the presence of the enlightened prohibition has made the Capitol District, epicenter of our nation, a model of safety, civility and gracious interaction.

Truly the bright, shining city on the hill. We must spread this enlightenment........
 
The ruling [by the Appellate Court for DC] upheld a radical decision by a federal trial judge, who struck down the 31-year-old gun control law...

NYT can't even get the simple facts right, so guess how informed their opinion must be.

Parker, et al, lost at the federal district level, and they were the ones who appealed. The Appellate Court for DC reversed the District and ruled the law unconstitutional.
 
"Beyond grappling with fairly esoteric arguments about the Second Amendment, the justices need to responsibly confront modern-day reality. A decision that upends needed gun controls currently in place around the country would imperil the lives of Americans."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And the presence of the enlightened prohibition has made the Capitol District, epicenter of our nation, a model of safety, civility and gracious interaction.

Truly the bright, shining city on the hill. We must spread this enlightenment........
+1
Were that the supreme justices of the land as wise as a humble lawyer in little ole' Massachusetts.
[rofl][rofl][rofl][rofl]
 
So if the Supreme Court is supposed to ignore the requirements of the Constitution and instead focus its attention on finding the best ways to "responsibly confront modern-day reality" then what exactly is the function of Congress? This is one of the most frantically written, error filled editorial pieces I've seen from the NYT in quite some time, and that says a hell of a lot. It sounds to me as if they're seriously worried, and I hope that the next few months prove that they had good cause to be.

Ken
 
I just sent this to the NYT

If the 2nd A is outdated, so is the first. When the 1st A was written, the quill pen and single-sheet printing press was all the rage. The founding fathers never intended the left wingnut media to spout their biased garbage across the globe with ultra-fast printing, television, radio and internet.
 
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