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NRA’s Cleans House/downward spiral, Post 357 NRA Board of Directors Exodus Accelerates

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  1. CatSnoutSoup

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    I agree don't throw the baby out with the bath water, but contact the board and tell them Wayne must go and transparency must be the order going forward. Most effective might be trying to leverage change with those donations extra to membership, "Yeah I am a member but I am not giving you any extra dough till Wayne is gone".

    But also join Gun Owners of America | The only no compromise gun lobby in Washington
    and support their aggressive communication campaigns.

    At the end of the day any group is only as effective as it member's participation.
    A pro gun lobbyist visiting a congressman's office doesn't amount to dick if it isn't accompanied by a fist full of letters, or a switchboard loaded with calls, no matter what acronym NRA, GOA, GOAL, NSSF.

    So I take a few minutes a week, pick a target, and phone or send an actual letter, if they are in state or out of state, pro or anti, I do not care.
    Maybe I am wasting my time, but it only takes a few minutes a week and I really do feel there is an urgent need to be heard.

    :emoji_tiger:
     
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  2. Rob Boudrie

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    Really think you are going to find a board member willing to give up all committee assignments and be denied permission to win a seat in the next so-called election? You only keep the "nominating committee" endorsement by agreeing to go along to get along.
     
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  3. CatSnoutSoup

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    Why a quote without reference? Anyway.

    Rob thanks for your input, in truth I do not "think" I am in a position to do anything except the next right thing as I see it.

    That is what I am doing when I send my dough to Comm2A, GOAL, etc., and that is what I am doing when I speak up via calls and letters, the next right thing as I see it.

    I will be happy to follow a plan of increased effectiveness when someone presents it.

    :emoji_tiger:
     
  4. FPrice

    FPrice Retired Zoomie NES Life Member NES Member

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    Just got a call from a paid-telemarketer to contribute to the NRA.

    I refused her pitch and explained in a gentlemanly but firm way why I was not giving due to the leadership crisis at the NRA. I also made it clear that I hoped that she would report this and that it would get back to the NRA. She was very quiet (I am polite) and acknowledged what I was saying.

    I still support the NRA in other ways because I believe like Clumber32 that we still need the NRA on the national level to fight for us.

    There is NO other organization which supports the shooting sports like the NRA. Competitions, education and training, advocacy. Does anyone else cover all this?
     
  5. jpk

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    NRA isnt just one org

    There's NRA ILA (Legislative side) which IMHO is the important one

    Then there's all the other legal entities that do other functions you mention.
     
  6. SFC13557

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    There is NO other Organization that strikes fear and hatred in liberals like the NRA which is why I still support them. If they imploded the left would be giddy and it would be a major political loss for us. They need to clean house and right the ship..
     
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  7. TayNinh_66

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    NRA has lost all credibility due to the dysfunctional leadership. Anti-gun law proposals are everywhere. Dems have no fear of NRA. Even Republicans are conceding some ground.
    I am not going to support any organization that buys the CEO a $6.5 mil mansion and buys him $.5 mil worth of clothing. It has already imploded and LaPierre will ride it down to the last dollar.
     
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  8. KBCraig

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    They don't strike fear. They're just a useful boogieman.

    They're already imploded.
     
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  9. SFC13557

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    *******
    Not according to the anti's and liberal Dem pols, they don't even know SAF and GOA exist.
     
  10. Spanz

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    Jaysus, wtf happened to the NRA???
    And how the heck do we get lapierre's ass canned.
     
  11. Matt-CZ

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    Every dollar given to the NRA is a dollar not given to an organization that isn't wasting money by enriching grifters. Every dollar that improperly ends up in Wayne's pocket is a dollar not spent advancing the stated goals of the NRA.
     
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    I got the same call, and provided the same commentary.

    You know the mansion wasn't purchased, and you know it was another business that was buying it as an investment....the far more egregious thing was the 97k a day in 'legal bills'
     
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    Then why do liberals heads explode when you mention the NRA? ask them about the GOA or SAF and you'll see a blank stare. I belong to all 3, Life member in NRA but donate money to GOA and SAF.
     
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    Coasting on prior reputation and name recognition.
     
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  15. mikeyp

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    NRA Spent Tens of Thousands on Hair and Makeup for CEO’s Wife

    he NRA spent tens of thousands of dollars bringing hair and makeup artists around the country for the wife of its CEO, two sources told The Daily Beast. The expenses–which included plane flights and luxury hotel stays for the stylists–are bound to fuel an already-raging debate over what some see as a spendthrift culture in the NRA’s upper echelons. The NRA, meanwhile, called it a “non-story,” and said their ex-ad firm was responsible for any such expenses.


    Susan LaPierre, the wife of longtime NRA chief Wayne LaPierre, is one of the gun organization’s many public faces, and co-chairs its Women’s Leadership Forum. She often speaks at that group’s annual gatherings for female NRA supporters. And for years now, the NRA has paid for a makeup artist and a hair stylist, both based in Nashville and plugged in to the country music scene, to do LaPierre’s hair and make-up at events around the country, according to two sources familiar with the arrangements.

    The NRA Women’s Leadership Forum hosts many of its events in major metropolitan areas where local hair and makeup talent abounds. But because of LaPierre’s preference for the Nashville artists, the gun group has paid a premium to fly them around the country, and put them up in style.

    That may be changing, though, as those expenditures have raised eyebrows within the NRA. According to one of the sources, the stylists were booked to provide hair and makeup services for LaPierre at its member gathering in Indianapolis this past April. But as media reports emerged with allegations of extravagant spending by the gun group, NRA officials worried the Nashville stylists’ presence could attract scrutiny. So they canceled on them at the last minute. Because the cancellation came so late, the NRA still had to pay their fees.

    An NRA spokesperson alleged this reporting was orchestrated by the group’s former public relations firm, which it is suing. That firm, Ackerman McQueen, worked with the NRA for more than three decades. It handled payments for many expenses related to the NRA’s public relations–expenses the NRA ultimately picked up.

    “This is the latest example of the smear campaign orchestrated to damage those close to the NRA,” said Andrew Arulanandam, the NRA’s managing director of public affairs. “In this instance, our former vendor shamelessly targets the wife of the Association’s CEO. Once again, Ackerman McQueen attempts to mislead by suggesting that Ms. LaPierre had responsibility for actions taken by the agency.”

    “Ms. LaPierre and other senior members of the NRA fundraising team participate in TV interviews, nationally-televised speeches, and videos used to raise millions of dollars annually. Hair and make-up services might be used in those instances–coordinated, directed, and paid for by Ackerman. This is another non-story with facts presented out of context–an act of desperation being fueled by the same group of people who attempted to extort Wayne LaPierre and the Association.”

    A spokesperson for the ad firm directed The Daily Beast to prior statements saying all of Ackerman’s payments were made at the NRA’s direction.

    The expenditures, which have not been previously reported, will frustrate some NRA members who say the group’s leadership spends donor funds irresponsibly.

    “If all of these allegations are true, they are one more example of the climate of living life large on the donations of members,” said Steve Hoback, an NRA member and former NRA staffer who has criticized its leadership. “And they in no way add to the core mission of the NRA, which is the development and conduct of firearms safety and education courses and defense of Second Amendment rights. There’s no way that a bouffant ‘do and glittery eyeshadow is going to protect anyone’s Second Amendment rights.”

    Over the last several weeks, scrutiny of the NRA’s financial decisions has intensified. Earlier this month, The Wall Street Journal reported that the group considered spending more than $5 million to buy a mansion on a golf course in Dallas, Texas, for the LaPierres. The talks came last year after the Parkland shooting when the NRA CEO had concerns about his safety, according to the Journal, but the NRA did not ultimately buy the house.

    The association has also drawn criticism for spending almost $275,000 over 13 years on designer clothing for Wayne LaPierre. It also spent nearly $100,000 in 2012 on his travel, including trips to Palm Beach and the Bahamas, and stays at the Budapest Four Seasons and a five-star resort on Lake Como in Italy. The revelations came from a leaked document posted online anonymously. The NRA has defended the spending, saying its CEO needs to maintain a well-groomed public profile and that he raised money for the group on his trips. But LaPierre does not enjoy unanimous support: Col. Allen West, a member of the NRA board and grassroots favorite, called for his resignation after the news broke and said the spending was “despicable.”

    The NRA’s finances have drawn intense public scrutiny over the last year as its expenses have ballooned. The group is embroiled in a host of legal tangles, including multiple congressional investigations, multiple probes from state attorneys general, and high-stakes litigation with the governor of New York. It is also suing—and, simultaneously being sued by—its former public relations firm, Ackerman McQueen. Tens of millions of dollars could be at stake in those lawsuits.

    Unsurprisingly, the NRA has amassed hefty legal bills. Its estranged ex-president Oliver North estimated the gun group’s outside law firm was charging it upwards of $100,000 a day and has said the fees threaten the group’s very existence. The NRA board and senior leadership, meanwhile, have disputed North’s estimates and defended the law firm’s work.

    At the same time, the group has lost some of its top political talent. Earlier this year, its longtime lobbying chief Chris Cox resigned. Cox, who pushed the group to spend big to support Trump’s campaign in the 2016 election, had the president’s trust, as well as a fat Rolodex of Republican members of Congress. Together, LaPierre and Cox dissuaded Trump from pushing for tougher gun laws after the Parkland massacre. It remains to be seen if the association will maintain its effectiveness in his absence.
     
  16. citoriguy

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    The suits, vacations, apartments for the hussy, and now this. If this isn’t the definition of private inurement, then I don’t know what is. That’s the number one thing you don’t mess around with if you’re tax-exempt. If this was a Democrat-picked IRS head, their tax-exempt status would be toast and they’d revert to a for-profit organization subject to income tax.

    Even if AckMack was the one that paid the bill, you know they billed the NRA for it.
     
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  17. Mountain

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    Damn, it's as if Wayno was a plant to destroy the NRA. I know he's just a self-serving POS, but damn...
     
  18. KBCraig

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    And who was responsible for the ad firm???
     
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  19. Fritz the Cat

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    I will say this again, IMNSHO.
    There are two camps fighting over control of NRA contributions.
    It's Wayne's fault.
    It's Ackerman's fault.
    Neither gives a shit about the cause. They both want the $$
    Good old fashioned greed.
     
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    As I said in another thread, Wayne would quit if he cared about the NRA's mission and purpose, but he's in it for Wayne. Same withe board. The board needs to shrink (say to 9 or 11 members) and be replaced with those who care about the mission of the NRA. Anti's are cheering for it's collapse and it will happen if Wayne and the board continue.
    It seems Susan LaPierre is OK with the flamingo girl in the pool (and the money to support her) as long as she continues to get her hair and make up done.
    I don't know what it would take to get the NRA back on course, but I'm up for it.
     
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  21. SpaceCritter

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    Many years ago now, our local community hospital started to tank: they had canned their CEO and brought in a new guy, under whose leadership they started doing all kinds of stupid crap, the epitome of which was running their own HMO (which DID tank). This was only set right by a corporators'* revolt: they jettisoned the board, got the old CEO back, and got the ship righted.

    * Members of the corporation (typically nominated among notable members of the community), who usually don't do much beyond meeting once a year to vote in the board.

    Has anyone studied the bylaws for any means by the members to call an emergency meeting of the corporation?
     
  22. citoriguy

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    For the NRA? I haven’t, but they have to make them available and they may be on the NY AG’s office website. Worst comes to worst, put in a FOIA request or ask for their Form 1024, of which the articles of incorporation, by-laws, and other governing documents are a required attachment.

    Or they may have them on their website.
     
  23. SpaceCritter

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    No obvious link on the site (that I've been able to find with a cursory search).

    As a life member, I've just requested a copy. Let's see what the response is.
     
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    ...and here we are, almost a day later. No response. I still cannot find anything current online. Every other non-profit organization I've known posts its bylaws on its website.
     
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    You may have to do a formal FOIA request, and specifically state you’re making the request under FOIA. I’ll try to look for the specific code section at some point tomorrow, but am buried at work right now and can barely see straight.
     
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    definitely guilty w/o makeup and a hair job
     
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    NRA Board of Directors Exodus Accelerates - The Truth About Guns

    Earlier today we reported that National Rifle Association board member Richard Childress, a former NRA first vice president, had resigned. Now CNN is reporting the departure of two more board members.

    Country music singer and NRA board member Craig Morgan has resigned, sources with knowledge of the matter tell CNN, and NASCAR team owner Richard Childress stepped down on Monday. David Lehman, the deputy executive director and general counsel at the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action, also is leaving the organization, the sources tell CNN.

    Both Morgan and Childress were prominent public faces for the NRA. Morgan appeared frequently on the group’s now-defunct streaming video service NRATV and even hosted his own program on the network. Lehman was the deputy to then executive director Chris Cox, who resigned in June and was also the NRA’s top lobbyist. Lehman was filling the role of top lobbyist when he departed the organization.

    This is another significant loss for the Institute for Legislative Action, the NRA’s lobbying arm. In recent weeks the NRA-ILA has lost its executive director, Chris Cox, a top Cox deputy, Scott Christman, the NRA-ILA’s director of pubic affairs, Jennifer Baker, and now Lehman, the ILA’s deputy executive director and interim head.

    And all this heading into election season.

    TTAG spoke to David Dell’Aquila whose Grassroots organization is working to bring about the removal of NRA EVP and CEO Wayne LaPierre over the mounting allegations of overspending and financial mismanagement.

    Dell’Aquila said . . .

    It’s a shame that it’s come to this. Our only interest is in making the NRA stronger and more accountable to its members and core mission of protecting Second Amendment rights. The departure of eight board members in just a few weeks is an indication of the depth of the problems facing the NRA.
     
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    I just received my September issue of Shooting Illustrated. Wayne is really on the defensive as is the current pres. Carolyn Meadows.
    What a sad state of affairs.
     
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    FIFY.
     
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    I was given some NRA stickers when I completed my class. I'm glad I read this thread thoroughly before I had the shame of affixing them to my car.

    I'll be watching GOAL as well. Not sure if they will end up on my car either.
     

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