boilermaker
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So far, I don't hear anyone sticking up for Wayne or the BOD, the only calls I hear are for a re-org. I think they are going to get skewered by the State of NY, and I am not sure where that leaves us.
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On Point is doing a full hour on the NRA mess right now on WBUR.
If GOA/GOAL/Comm2A type folks were in charge of the NRA, I could see politicians having aneurisms and 1986 being undone. The NRA is too close to DC with the whole ‘compromise’ thing, the smaller ones - not so much.
GOAL had its own crisis some years back. It went through a pretty traumatic and long overdue housecleaning.
Any organization where leadership stays too long can result in leadership caring more about themselves than their mission.
Any organization where leadership stays too long can result in leadership caring more about themselves than their mission.
Except for the fact they are funding and supplying the lawyers in the Worman case?1) NRA is a money grubbing industry
2) I see NO evidence that they have even lifted a finger to help us fight gun restrictions here in MA
other than those...i guess they are ok.
Secret elections??? I thought the MEMBERS voted on who was president??
Except for the fact they are funding and supplying the lawyers in the Worman case?
Sure, but that’s a case of national importance. They’re not doing any lobbying at the state legislative level to loosen the stranglehold on law-abiding gun owners though.
Folks, come on. There are plenty of things to criticize the NRA for, but this isn’t one of them.
First, in a state with a strong state gun rights organization like GOAL, the NRA defers to the state organization. They come in and help when GOAL or Comm2A request their help, but otherwise let GOAL drive.
Second, due to the NRA’s reputation among liberals, the NRA being front and center in MA likely wouldn’t help us.
Third, the NRA can’t change the fact that most voters in MA are anti-gun and the legislature represents their views. The simple fact of the matter is that we don’t have the votes on Beacon Hill. The NRA could spend a ton of money in MA but that wouldn’t get us votes on Beacon Hill. It would be money wasted. The NRA wisely spends its money where it has a chance of winning.
First off, it’s clear the NRA isn’t spending its money wisely. Second, I’m not asking for a wave of millions to flood the MA legislature, but they can, either by themselves or in conjunction with other groups, launch a calculated grassroots campaign.
Wayne's salary exceeds the NRA's legal expenditures fighting pro-2A cases. That's a problem!
“Calculated grassroots campaign”?
This is Massachusetts, not Ohio. Most people in MA are anti-gun. They may not be members of an antigun organization, but in general they think guns are bad if they think about them at all. And the NRA, in particular, is evil in their view.
I work in Cambridge, where employers encourage employees to indicate to their colleagues which pronouns they prefer (in case a man doesn’t to be referred to as “he/him”). No “calculated grassroots campaign” is going to turn these people to a pro-gun viewpoint.
The NRA doesn’t have a magic want to wave to suddenly convince soccer moms within route 128 that modern sporting rifles are good and magazine bans are stupid. Those soccer moms see news stories about mass shootings and think that guns should be banned or at least more severely restricted.
Here in MA, the only thing that GOAL can do, with the NRA’s help, is to try to limit the damage. As long as voter opinions are what they are in MA, we will not get legislative relief. It will always be a rearguard action on Beacon Hill. And when GOAL reaches out to the NRA for support, they get it. But the NRA does not take point in the media because 1) they leave that to GOAL and 2) if they did it would be counterproductive.
The only hope we have in MA is in the federal courts, appealing to SCOTUS.
come on don't think any of you would mind snuggling up to dana loesch
I have a funny feeling LaPierre is going to be out very very soon
First off, it’s clear the NRA isn’t spending its money wisely. Second, I’m not asking for a wave of millions to flood the MA legislature, but they can, either by themselves or in conjunction with other groups, launch a calculated grassroots campaign.
With respect to the organization’s reputation with the left, getting rid of LaPierre would be a great step towards having a shot at a better dialogue.
As these reports continue to come to light, more and more on the left are smelling blood in the water.
Mike - I am acutely aware of the legislative considerations staring down the 2A group. Again, I’m not asking for a substantial sum to come in to MA. Some more support for GOAL and Comm2A would be nice though.
Got a fundraising call today... told them no more money as long as Wayne was in charge. Id rather not pay into his private jet fund.
Col. Allen West, NRA board member, no longer supports Wayne LaPierre, says NRA president and audit committee member are lying about briefing the rest of the board: NRA board member: 'Imperative' to clean house, move on from CEO Wayne LaPierre
Of course, you're just talking to some call center worker who only has NO/YES/AMOUNT available on their computer scripts. Your message never reaches the NRA.Got a fundraising call today... told them no more money as long as Wayne was in charge. Id rather not pay into his private jet fund.