Non-ma**h*** flying out of Logan with long gun

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No one at the airline check in counter cares what you have as long as you declare it. I always hand them my driver's license and tell them up front I need an orange card. Since the firearm is in the locked box inside the suitcase all they do is have me fill in the card and sign it, then they tape the card to the outside of the case. It's been years since anyone asked me to actually open the case and that was TSA when one of their detectors falsely alerted on something in my bag.

For a long gun in a case that is not inside a suitcase, the orange card goes inside.

The one time I thought I might have contact with a trooper was when one of the airlines decided that my luggage with a firearm inside had to go to their baggage office, not on the conveyer. There was a statie in the baggage office, but he was just chatting up the pretty young woman working there. He didn't even glance at me. Not that I blame, she was pretty cute.

Woodstock has it right. Print out the TSA rules and the airlines contract of carry section on firearms. Jet Blue requires the firearm and ammunition to be in separate suitcases. The ammunition doesn't have to be declared, but it has to be in checked baggage.

Magazines can be loaded, but they can not be in the locked case with the firearm. Of course if no one bothers to open the case it doesn't matter.

Ditto the above by Mesatchornug. Look up the TSA rules and your particular airline's rules for "Flying with Firearms". Print them both out, keep them in your pocket to answer any BS rules that a gate agent might decide to think up. You'll be fine.
 
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I use Pre Check and all they check is to make sure you have a reservation and valid credit card.

Yes, it is at random since going back to after 9/11 at least, also the people doing the searching are clueless retards and they will summon the waffen SS on you if they find gun stuff etc. So stay the f*** away from those garages. Just dont even think about it. . Even if your lawful theres too high of a chance of encountering a retard and wasting lots of your time. There are enough park + fly type services near Logan that nobody should be parking at the airport anyways.
 
Which airline? I ask because SWA, American, Delta, or United have never done any of that at any airport that I've flown in or out of.

TSA used to occasionally ask to ask people to open the cases, but since they got newer Xray and explosives detecting equipment they don't seem to do that.

The next time I plan to fly with a checked firearm will be November and the last time was last November, so maybe things have changed.

Over complicating stuff huh? So, last time I flew which was last month, the agent at bag check had me open my bag and show him that the ammunition and firearm was packed exactly to the carriers specifications. After he visually inspected this, he asked me a series of questions and had me sign a document stating that each of the guidelines had been complied with. On my return flight, the agent did not have me open the check bag, but had me escorted with the bag in another agent’s possession, to TSA where the TSA agents inspected the contents.

You may have had a different experience, but following the directions of the TSA and the carrier is not over complicating anything. Because there are times when you get checked by the airlines and the TSA to see if you are following the letter of the law.
 
No one at the airline check in counter cares what you have as long as you declare it. I always hand them my driver's license and tell them up front I need and orange counter. Since the firearm is in the locked box inside the suitcase all they do is have me fill in the card and sign it, then they tape the card to the outside of the case. It's been years since anyone asked me to actually open the case and that was TSA when one of their detectors falsely alerted on something in my bag.

For a long gun in a case that is not inside a suitcase, the orange card goes inside.

The one time I thought I might have contact with a trooper was when one of the airlines decided that my luggage with a firearm inside had to go to their baggage office, not on the conveyer. There was a statie in the baggage office, but he was just chatting up the pretty young woman working there. He didn't even glance at me. Not that I blame, she was pretty cute.

Woodstock has it right. Print out the TSA rules and the airlines contract of carry section on firearms. Jet Blue requires the firearm and ammunition to be in separate suitcases. The ammunition doesn't have to be declared, but it has to be in checked baggage.

Magazines can be loaded, but they can not be in the locked case with the firearm. Of course if no one bothers to open the case it doesn't matter.
Not necessarily separate suitcases. Just not the same container. When I flew jet blue in the spring, my pistol was in a pistol case inside my (padlocked) suitcase, next to my ammo.
 
I haven't flown on Jet Blue for several years so it probably changed as some point. AirTran used to have the same rule until they were absorbed by SWA. During the transition if you were flying any leg of a trip on SWA the rule didn't apply, but if you booked and flew solely on AirTran you did.

But, that's the reason I always check both TSA and the airlines rules a day or so before the trip.

Not necessarily separate suitcases. Just not the same container. When I flew jet blue in the spring, my pistol was in a pistol case inside my (padlocked) suitcase, next to my ammo.
 
when was the last time your car was searched after being stopped for a tail light out?!
Seriously, my standard answer if a cop tells me he stopped me because I have a light bulb out I say "thank you, I have a spare in the glove box" or "dang it! I just had that one changed last week, thanks for letting me know." Then I don't even get a ticket as they realize "I didn't even know" and I tell them I will go get it replaced right away.
See post #43
 
Driving through, no.

Driving into MA, parking at Logan, walking into the airport past a bunch of staties with a rifle case…just seems like it’s a recipe for bad juju.

Fly from NH I’d say.

Something like this should help getting past the staties without raising suspicion:

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Which airline? I ask because SWA, American, Delta, or United have never done any of that at any airport that I've flown in or out of.

TSA used to occasionally ask to ask people to open the cases, but since they got newer Xray and explosives detecting equipment they don't seem to do that.

The next time I plan to fly with a checked firearm will be November and the last time was last November, so maybe things have changed.

This was American Airlines. I've been asked to open my bag in the past with other carriers too. But it isn't every time. A few years back Southwest asked me to open the bag and they taped a label on the container that the firearm was stored in. I'm not sure why it is sometimes and not others, and I'm not sure why it is a little bit different from time to time. I seem to recall a flight almost a decade ago where I was escorted to TSA after declaring a firearm at baggage check, and TSA checking the contents at that time too. I fly somewhat often, and always take a firearm. It almost seems like a different experience in some way each time I fly.

TSA has their set of regulations that you must comply with. On top of that, each carrier has their own policy which may add to TSA's regulations. And on top of that it also seems that different staff in different terminals handle checking a firearm differently from time to time.

I will add that it has always worked out and I've been able to fly without issue. I'm just sharing my experiences to let others know to check their airlines policy before flying to avoid any issues. They do check that those policies are being followed from time to time.
 
I haven't flown on Jet Blue for several years so it probably changed as some point. AirTran used to have the same rule until they were absorbed by SWA. During the transition if you were flying any leg of a trip on SWA the rule didn't apply, but if you booked and flew solely on AirTran you did.

But, that's the reason I always check both TSA and the airlines rules a day or so before the trip.
This is great advice.

Had a hockey bag and sticks to check. JetBlue wanted to charge extra: even though their luggage policy states bag+sticks (or skis + boot bag) are one item. Flown four times with that stuff and three times none of the employees knew the policy.
 
I'd try to fly out of NH. Driving to MA Logan and taking it out of the trunk and even walking around with it to the checkin counter would probably be enough for some busy body to stop you and ask for Ze MA Papers.

They can ask but you don’t need any papers. My brother took his Garand to Logan, was no big deal.
 
They can ask but you don’t need any papers. My brother took his Garand to Logan, was no big deal.
To up your game, you can pull it out of the case and verify it’s not loaded on the sidewalk in front of the terminal before entering,

Don’t forget to look in the chamber and down the barrel. Best if you wave it around high and give it a good shake in the air to make sure it’s really unloaded. As homage to the middle eastern employees, they really appreciate a good loud “ALLAH AKBAR!” before packing up your gun and putting it away.
 
Federal law allows you to travel through states with a firearm. You are good as long as you can legally own them at your destination, you comply with any federal laws regarding transportation, and you are traveling through and not stopping in a state that does not permit you to have said firearms.
FOPA allows you to drive through states with a firearm. They have to be out of reach of driver and any passengers, locked in a trunk or secured container if vehicle has no trunk to comply with FOPA.You have to make a continuous journey from origin state to destination state, with brief stops for fuel allowed. This is transporting, not carrying. A cased and unloaded long gun being walked through Logan is carrying it. No FID or LTC would subject that person to arrest if the police witnessed it. OP can do as he wishes, but it is not a chance that I would be willing to take. State Police patrol Logan. I would not want to cross them.
 
FOPA allows you to drive through states with a firearm. They have to be out of reach of driver and any passengers, locked in a trunk or secured container if vehicle has no trunk to comply with FOPA.You have to make a continuous journey from origin state to destination state, with brief stops for fuel allowed. This is transporting, not carrying. A cased and unloaded long gun being walked through Logan is carrying it. No FID or LTC would subject that person to arrest if the police witnessed it. OP can do as he wishes, but it is not a chance that I would be willing to take. State Police patrol Logan. I would not want to cross them.

Tons of unwashed people have had zero problems transiting secured, checked baggage guns through logan. I don't get what all this fearmongering is about. Same with RI and CT airports as well, which those states certainly have a lot of their own dumb issues or restrictions, but all 3 appear to actually respect the real spirit/intent of FOPA without issue.

In the old days I would have agreed with you but I've seen nothing but evidence to the contrary, I personally know moron-grade people who didnt know
any better that easily moved guns through logan in checked baggage.

This ain't like NYC or other PAPD airports (Newark?) where the Waffen SS get immediately dispatched to the check in counter immediately upon utterance of "I need to check a firearm as part of my checked baggage" are uttered.

What do.. In Chestnut Hill and the retired BPD rat man is 10ft away from me.

First it was spotting the tranny running for DA, and now this guy who looks like a rat more IRL then he does on TV.

Wondering if I hit submit, will one of the .gov lackeys surfing this forum send a SWAT team down and shoot me.

I have officially declared this area the whitest place on earth.. Seems the only POC here are Door Dash and servants shopping for their white masters at Wegmans.

F it

What is it with you and being a shitmagnet to famous politicians? First it was attracting that very wealthy irish moonbat lady that looks like its a dude ( Shit hyphen Riordan or whatever her name is) now you're getting like skeletor guest appearances and stuff.... [rofl]
 
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Tons of unwashed people have had zero problems transiting secured, checked baggage guns through logan. I don't get what all this fearmongering is about. Same with RI and CT airports as well, which those states certainly have a lot of their own dumb issues or restrictions, but all 3 appear to actually respect the real spirit/intent of FOPA without issue.

In the old days I would have agreed with you but I've seen nothing but evidence to the contrary, I personally know moron-grade people who didnt know
any better that easily moved guns through logan in checked baggage.

This ain't like NYC or other PAPD airports (Newark?) where the Waffen SS get immediately dispatched to the check in counter immediately upon utterance of "I need to check a firearm as part of my checked baggage" are uttered.



What is it with you and being a shitmagnet to famous politicians? First it was attracting that very wealthy irish moonbat lady that looks like its a dude ( Shit hyphen Riordan or whatever her name is) now you're getting like skeletor guest appearances and stuff.... [rofl]

No idea man, it boggled my mind when I seen him. My best guess is the liberal elite seek out the whitest place they can find to hang out.

Isn't he head of security now for UMASS to bump his pension up another $100k a year courtesy of the tax payers?
 
Teterboro is also a NY/NJ Port Authority airport, but I don't know how much passenger traffic goes through it. It's a way point for Amazon and other cargo carriers and has lots of private airplanes. My one visit there was driving a kidney down to catch up with a charter plane and I definitely wasn't going through security and definitely wasn't carrying.

Tons of unwashed people have had zero problems transiting secured, checked baggage guns through logan. I don't get what all this fearmongering is about. Same with RI and CT airports as well, which those states certainly have a lot of their own dumb issues or restrictions, but all 3 appear to actually respect the real spirit/intent of FOPA without issue.

In the old days I would have agreed with you but I've seen nothing but evidence to the contrary, I personally know moron-grade people who didnt know
any better that easily moved guns through logan in checked baggage.

This ain't like NYC or other PAPD airports (Newark?) where the Waffen SS get immediately dispatched to the check in counter immediately upon utterance of "I need to check a firearm as part of my checked baggage" are uttered.
 
I didn't read the whole thread but here's what I did.

I drove to Logan with a savage hog hunter, a VP9 and my silencerco Omega all in a case. All with standard cap mags.

I checked it in, they took it, I got some breakfast and a couple tequila and soda's cause why not I'm not driving. Boarded my plane and went to Texas.

Got drunk in Texas for 3 days and didn't see a single hog.

Packed my s*** up and went home. Landed at Logan, grabbed my case and drove home.

That was a few years ago and so far no one has shown up and shot my dog, so I guess I got away with it.
 
Teterboro is also a NY/NJ Port Authority airport, but I don't know how much passenger traffic goes through it. It's a way point for Amazon and other cargo carriers and has lots of private airplanes. My one visit there was driving a kidney down to catch up with a charter plane and I definitely wasn't going through security and definitely wasn't carrying.

Teterboro is where all the rich NYC people move their private or chartered jets in and out of, its mostly general aviation so I doubt there is much in the way of screening going on there for those kinds of flights.
 
Honestly, I hope he makes it there and back without incident. All it takes is one a**h*** cop to arrest you on illegal firearms and ammunition charges to change your life forever. A call from a nervous Nellie or a nosy Karen at the air port check in to the cops would be all that it takes. OP should fly out of Manchester NH or Portland ME for safety reasons.
 
Honestly, I hope he makes it there and back without incident. All it takes is one a**h*** cop to arrest you on illegal firearms and ammunition charges to change your life forever. A call from a nervous Nellie or a nosy Karen at the air port check in to the cops would be all that it takes. OP should fly out of Manchester NH or Portland ME for safety reasons.
Please cite some arrests at Logan Airport for people trying to legally check unloaded guns as baggage. It would be useful data to others here if it's actually a real problem. Either that or it's not or it's a non problem and it's just fearmongering.
 
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Some people just have a low panic threshold I guess.

Please cite some arrests at Logan Airport for people trying to legally check unloaded guns as baggage. It would be useful data to others here if it's actually a real problem. Either that or it's not or it's a non problem and it's just fearmongering.
 
It’s the FAA that doesn’t want loose ammo, even for general (private) aviation. They don’t want the rounds banging against each other as it could set one off. That’s the fear, anyway.

How someone could argue the nice plastic box is not the original container for hand loads is anyone’s guess.
The FAA has no such rule for GA operations.
 
Teterboro is where all the rich NYC people move their private or chartered jets in and out of, its mostly general aviation so I doubt there is much in the way of screening going on there for those kinds of flights.
I fly in and out of Teterboro all the time. There is no security.
 
Please cite some arrests at Logan Airport for people trying to legally check unloaded guns as baggage. It would be useful data to others here if it's actually a real problem. Either that or it's not or it's a non problem and it's just fearmongering.
If it is not an issue, in this hoplophobic state, then I agree. Let it rest.
 
Two pieces of advice I would give is to make sure the only phone number the airline has is your cell phone number that you are carrying with you, and to arrive to the airport even extra early when flying with firearms.

I had an incident once flying out of Logan with a pistol in a hard locked case inside one of my regular suitcases. TSA had to get hold of me and the airline called my home number they had somewhere in my account profile, not the cell number I put as the contact number for the ticket booking!!! Luckily my daughter was home and answered the phone and told them this was the home number and I was at the airport, lol. So anyway I eventually found out and got back to TSA and sorted out the issue. Since we were really early there was plenty of time. I later went onto my online profile with the airline and removed my home number from the account. BTW the cell number was on a label on the hard case with my name but apparently TSA relies on the airlines for notification.
 
Yes, it is at random since going back to after 9/11 at least, also the people doing the searching are clueless retards and they will summon the waffen SS on you if they find gun stuff etc. So stay the f*** away from those garages. Just dont even think about it. . Even if your lawful theres too high of a chance of encountering a retard and wasting lots of your time. There are enough park + fly type services near Logan that nobody should be parking at the airport anyways.
They don’t do this in Central Parking at Logan. They were doing at the B garage, but I haven’t parked there in ages. I just parked at Central Parking on Thursday.
 
When they say "original container" (POS cardboard box), are there any stories of anyone getting denied because he/she put the ammo in nice plastic boxes that are far superior to the POS original container?
I used plastic ammo boxes and had no trouble with AA, but that was years back.
 
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