NH residents and the PRM

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I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this (especially after re-reading
Chapter 140: Section 131F) but...

If a NH resident wishes to come down here to the People's Republik, and
bring a handgun to shoot as a guest at a local club, that NH resident
MUST acquire a MA temporary Class A or Class B, right?

Even if they lock the unloaded piece in a carrier, and place the locked
carrier in a locked trunk for transport directly to the range, they must
still acquire the temporary license, no exceptions. Is that correct?
 
CORRECT!

Only exceptions are:

- to attend any sort of match,
- to attend any sort of gun show or exhibition.

Even to attend firearms training in PRM, you MUST have a LTC to bring the gun into PRM. [A MA LTC holder can "escort" you and your guns across the state line.]

You can shoot someone else's guns in MA without a LTC.
 
Thanks, Len. That's what I thought, though I didn't realize that there was an exception for competitions or exhibitions. Thanks for confirming the "escort-across-the-border" option.

Damn, citizens can sleep better tonight knowing these laws are in effect. [roll]
 
Not my take on the law

I believe federal law allows a legally licensed owner of a handgun or long gun to tansport it to any state in the Union for any activity. The gun must be stored unloaded in a locked case in a secure(locked area, ie. trunk) of your vehicle. Ammo must be stored separately. You don't need a non-resident license in any state to simply transport a firearm. If an activity is on private property such as a training facility or club shoot off, I don't see a problem there. :?
 
Bill, sorry but you are not correct on this one.

FOPA allows you to transport legally THRU ANY state, as long as you are LEGAL TO DO SO AT YOUR STARTING POINT AND END POINTS. Thus if you have a FL CCW and MA LTC you could theoretically drive with gun locked in trunk from FL to MA or vice versa.

[NOTE: I say theoretically since places like NY and NJ have arrested people with guns in transit. They don't recognize FOPA and it can get real expensive to defend your actions in court to get it overturned. It's not a "win" if it cost you $5K or more to defend yourself in a just action.]

However, if MA is your destination to train and all you have is a FL CCW, you are SOL! FOPA does NOT cover you!

I suggest you read FOPA real carefully.
 
LenS said:
FOPA allows you to transport legally THRU ANY state, as long as you are LEGAL TO DO SO AT YOUR STARTING POINT AND END POINTS. Thus if you have a FL CCW and MA LTC you could theoretically drive with gun locked in trunk from FL to MA or vice versa.
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You also cannot stop along the way, i.e., don't spend a week for vacation in a state where you don't have a NR license. Course, once you get passed NY, NJ and DC area, it tends to get a bit easier on the nerves. :D
 
Transport

You're wrong on New Jersey. If you are legal at your starting and ending points and the gun is unloaded, secured in a case with the ammo separate you can legally travel through NJ. The sdubject must also not be prohibited from possessing firearms.

All firearms transported into the State of New Jersey:

Shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel, shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

The firearm should not be directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console.

For additional exemptions refer to Chapter 39, namely 2C:39-g.


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All firearms transported through the State of New Jersey:
The following guidelines are provided in order to assist law enforcement officers in applying New Jersey’s firearms laws to persons who are transporting firearms through the State of New Jersey.

New Jersey laws governing firearms permits, purchaser identification cards, registration and licenses do not apply to a person who is transporting the firearm through this State if that person is transporting the firearm in a manner permitted by federal law, 18 U.S.C.A. 926A.

This federal law permitting interstate transportation of a firearm applies only if all of the following requirements are met:

A. The person’s possession of the firearm was lawful in the state in which the journey began;
B. The person’s possession of the firearm will be lawful in the state in which the journey will end;
C. The person is transporting the firearm for lawful purpose
D. The firearm is unloaded
E. The firearm is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle
F. The ammunition is not directly accessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle
G. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm and ammunition must be in a locked container other than the vehicle’s glove compartment or console;
H. The person is not

1. a convicted felon
2. a fugitive from justice an addict or unlawful user of drugs, or
3. an illegal alien

I The person has not

1. been adjudicated to be a mental defective
2. been committed to a mental institution
3. been dishonorably discharged from the armed forces, or
4. renounced his United States Citizenship


A person who is transporting a firearm though the State of New Jersey in the manner permitted by person’s possession 18 U.S.C.A. 926A, see Section II above, need not give notice.




[roll]
 
Re: Transport

rscalzo said:
You're wrong on New Jersey. If you are legal at your starting and ending points and the gun is unloaded, secured in a case with the ammo separate you can legally travel through NJ. The sdubject must also not be prohibited from possessing firearms.
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Now that you mention it, I do remember hearing something about NJ SP's being told they can't arrest someone if their "legal" and just traveling though the state. Someone in NJ actually read Fed law....I'll be damned.
:D
 
Surrisingly, it was their AG. He had to write a fairly strongly worded letter explaining the facts of life to the police. Even then, people traveling through were well advised to carry a copy of the letter in case they ran into Barney Fife. I've got a machine readable copy of it on official letterhead, complete with signature and seal.

Ken
 
NJ Travel

My department received a copy of these guidelines as did every department in NJ. As a avid shooter, it caught my interest. But in 30 years, we never had an arrest for possession of a firearm simply for travelling through the state. I did have to "educate" one traveler for carrying a handgun in his glove compartment. For many years, we had a very active pistol range in our town. People from all over the east coast attended matches at the range until it was closed a year ago.

[roll]
 
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