NH Opens 1000+ Miles Of New Interconnected ATV Trails 6/15

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My cousin held (might still to this day, don't know) some position in one of those snowmobile clubs in Maine where he did the grooming and maintenance on a lot of trails. Had a badass 'utility snowmobile', I guess it would be called, and all kinds of drags and grader type things for maintaining the trails, and owned some VERY nice sleds himself. Always loved going up there in the winter - even at 12 years old or so, he'd have no hesitation at all to fire up his top of the line, fast as hell and too powerful for a 12 year old from MA, snowmobile and let me go off riding wherever, whenever. Seemed you could get anywhere you needed to go up there on a snowmobile in the winter.
 

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I want in on this. What is a good, lower cost, atv to buy for me (250lb guys) and what one for the wife?
 

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I want in on this. What is a good, lower cost, atv to buy for me (250lb guys) and what one for the wife?
Define lower cost? I recently picked up a 2007 Brute Force 750 and that will stand up on me if I put my thumb in it... and i'm well over 3 bills. Low mileage only cost me 3k
 

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I'm back from vacationing in the North country.
Went up to Jericho State Park in Berlin with the ATV's.

Jericho ATV Festival | Its all About the Mud

This place is awesome!
We rode over 50 miles on Saturday, which is nearly a full tank of gas on my machine, and we didn't even ride half the trails.

Photos and video links to be added soon.
 

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I shot this clip of some guys playing in a pond.
The red machine has some serious suspension mods along with the snorkles for deep water.

[video=youtube_share;EZ7h1UHm-98]http://youtu.be/EZ7h1UHm-98[/video]
 

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Dumb question....are the ATV trails marked like sled trails....."stay on trail or stay home"?

Is that pond a marked trail or is riding in it going to piss of the land owner?
 

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Dumb question....are the ATV trails marked like sled trails....."stay on trail or stay home"?
No, not really, people pretty much ride anywhere they want, but they stay mostly on the trails.

Is that pond a marked trail or is riding in it going to piss of the land owner?
From the looks of it, I'd say that pond gets a lot of traffic through it.
There were a lot of cops and NHF&G people riding around there too, for the most part everyone behaved themselves.

Here are a few pics from last Saturday.
This first one was on top of Sugar Mountain at 2100 feet elevation looking West:





 

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I love what the trails are doing for tourism and travel up north.

I feckin' hate four-wheelers.

I'd much rather ride a dirt bike, and I'm looking at a few dual sports for those sections of trail where they're allowed.

I'm also looking at a used Rokon, because even though it's just a two-wheeler, the low tire pressure means it can go on ATV trails.
 
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another reason to love nh, ma requires you to register a quad, which nobody i know bothers, becuase there are only 5 places you can ride, and non of them are in central ma. i may have to go check this out!
Just clarifying this since Zappa also pointed out that you have to register in NH and Maine to ride on state land. However, what this poster was pointing out is that you have to register your ATV's in MA just for ownership. So, even if you buy the ATV at MTR in RI, pay MA sales tax and only ride it in Maine once a year and garage it at your house the rest of the time, but don't register it in MA. You're breaking the law, and can get slapped with a $250 fine. Originally heard this from some overzealous EPA cops in Charlton, decided to not call bullshit and look it up.. they were ****ing right. I immediately sold my ATV, not giving this state a god damn penny for a vehicle I can't even ride in MA unless I take a drive that's just as long as it takes to get to better riding in the free states.
 

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Dumb question....are the ATV trails marked like sled trails....."stay on trail or stay home"?

Is that pond a marked trail or is riding in it going to piss of the land owner?
Riding on private property requires written landowner permission unless the trail is marked open for OHRV use; trails can be restricted by type of OHRV--ATV or 2-wheel. Also, all two-wheeled require OHRV registration if riding off a public way, even if you are street legal (registered/plated).

Riding in water in NH can get very expensive:
"WETLAND WARNING
Riding in wetlands is against the law, and
violators can be fined up to $10,000 and may
be required to restore damages that result.
Pursuant to RSAs 482-A and 485-A"
 

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Does NH have a no-loaded weapons on offroad vehicles law? That is, is it illegal to carry concealed on an ATV even if you have a NH pistol & revolver license?
 

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Actually the Dirtbikes cause more damage, due to the fact that they bounce, much more than an ATV and when they come back down the rear wheel kicks up dirt, and that is how the washboardd effect happens in the trails. Those whoop de doos have to be graded out before frost sets in or the trails are junk for snow mobiles. That grading cost money and it is paid for by the club. The state does not groom these trails the clubs do.

I have seen this damage first hand, and the type of machines that cause it.

I also hope the Conservation Officers, Enforce the shit out of the altered exhaust rule.
In our area it's different, most of our beloved single track is gone, it's now rutted up eroded double-track superhighways. Fortunately the state forest that my club helps maintain now restricts motorized use to street plated bikes, no ATV's allowed; it's helped reduce our trail maintenance efforts, hopefully some day we will be able to establish some single track again.
 

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Does NH have a no-loaded weapons on offroad vehicles law? That is, is it illegal to carry concealed on an ATV even if you have a NH pistol & revolver license?
OHRV rules same as car or truck:

NH Pistol & Revolver license: OK to carry loaded pistol or revolver; never long arm

No license: all firearms must be unloaded--and although I don't think there is case law, to be safe "unloaded" should probably be loaded magazine not in weapon (that is, not just no round in chamber)

Laws are in place primarily to prevent taking deer out of season or at night.
 

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In our area it's different, most of our beloved single track is gone, it's now rutted up eroded double-track superhighways. Fortunately the state forest that my club helps maintain now restricts motorized use to street plated bikes, no ATV's allowed; it's helped reduce our trail maintenance efforts, hopefully some day we will be able to establish some single track again.
That's pretty much my experience. Two wheelers want to ride the trails; four wheelers intentionally look for (or create) dirt and mud to tear sh*t up.

You never see motorcycles off in the pond churning up the bottom just to see if they can do it without getting stuck (or intentionally getting stuck just to use the winch).
 

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That's pretty much my experience. Two wheelers want to ride the trails; four wheelers intentionally look for (or create) dirt and mud to tear sh*t up.

You never see motorcycles off in the pond churning up the bottom just to see if they can do it without getting stuck (or intentionally getting stuck just to use the winch).
That was a big reason why Savoy State Forest got shut down to OHV'ers. Some quad guys took a video of themselves ripping us some wetlands and then posted it online. Someone in DCR recognized the area, and that was the end of that.
 

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My buddy and I went back up to Berlin on Saturday, this time we rode the Success Trail from Berlin to Success Pond and back.
The round trip was 37 miles.
The weather was perfect and there weren't many people out on the trail, we saw maybe 2 dozen other riders all day.
We came very close to the Maine border, but didn't cross over.
There were signs warning you that a Maine registration decal was needed to ride there.
We met two other guys that said they've been riding the trails every weekend all season, they were intent on covering the whole 1000 miles. I wish I had that kind of time to go play.
 

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Update:

State's first four-by-four course taking shape

BERLIN — The only 4x4 off-road trail on state land in the Northeast is taking shape at Jericho Mountain State Park, with supporters hoping the all-volunteer effort will be completed by late summer.

Work on the 2.5-mile loop course began three weeks ago and is continuing on the weekends, said Marc Pouliot, president of the Milan-based North Woods Off Road club (NWOR).

Pouliot conceded that the work is a little more extensive and the slopes on the course a little steeper than first thought, but he remains confident the course could be completed sometime in August.

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140608/NEWHAMPSHIRE03/140609063
 

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Actually the Dirtbikes cause more damage, due to the fact that they bounce, much more than an ATV and when they come back down the rear wheel kicks up dirt, and that is how the washboardd effect happens in the trails. Those whoop de doos have to be graded out before frost sets in or the trails are junk for snow mobiles.
However, dirt bike riders seldom set out to intentionally try to tear stuff up, get stuck, etc.; the four-wheelers often do.

Just a generalization, of course, but rooted in truth.

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No license: all firearms must be unloaded--and although I don't think there is case law, to be safe "unloaded" should probably be loaded magazine not in weapon (that is, not just no round in chamber).
Actually there is case law, and that's exactly what it says: that a firearm is unloaded if there is no ammunition in it. In the case at hand, it was a handgun in a car, where the magazine was out and there was no chambered round.

I'll have to look for the cite later, unless someone has it handy.
 

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Actually there is case law, and that's exactly what it says: that a firearm is unloaded if there is no ammunition in it. In the case at hand, it was a handgun in a car, where the magazine was out and there was no chambered round.

I'll have to look for the cite later, unless someone has it handy.
My comment was originally made in July 2013 and was made with the knowledge that at least one person had been charged for having a loaded magazine *beside* an unloaded pistol in a vehicle.

In August 2013 the NH Supreme Court released the decision in that case (State v Dorr) and found for the defendant. More on the case from Eugene Volokh: http://www.volokh.com/2013/08/09/loaded-means-loaded/

Loaded magazine next to unloaded pistol in NH is OK even if you don't possess a P&R.
 

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Just clarifying this since Zappa also pointed out that you have to register in NH and Maine to ride on state land. However, what this poster was pointing out is that you have to register your ATV's in MA just for ownership. So, even if you buy the ATV at MTR in RI, pay MA sales tax and only ride it in Maine once a year and garage it at your house the rest of the time, but don't register it in MA. You're breaking the law, and can get slapped with a $250 fine. Originally heard this from some overzealous EPA cops in Charlton, decided to not call bullshit and look it up.. they were ****ing right. I immediately sold my ATV, not giving this state a god damn penny for a vehicle I can't even ride in MA unless I take a drive that's just as long as it takes to get to better riding in the free states.
Maybe that helps explain the popularity of self-storage units (in New Hampshire).
 

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NH recently jacked-up the OHRV registration fees.
It'll now cost a resident $87 to register an ATV/UTV, and $96 for a snowmobile, if you don't belong to a club.
The non-resident rate is now $106 for an ATV and $116 for a sled.
The current 2017-2018 registration stickers expire on June 30th., so renewal time is less than a week away.

https://wildlife.state.nh.us/ohrv/documents/annual-reg-form.pdf
 

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At least for sleds, you get a discount if you are a member of a club and that discount usually offsets the cost of a non-discounted registration. So end result is that the club gets the discounted portion and you aren’t out of pocket anything more than if you bought a non-discounted registration.
 

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NH recently jacked-up the OHRV registration fees.
It'll now cost a resident $87 to register an ATV/UTV, and $96 for a snowmobile, if you don't belong to a club.
The non-resident rate is now $106 for an ATV and $116 for a sled.
The current 2017-2018 registration stickers expire on June 30th., so renewal time is less than a week away.

https://wildlife.state.nh.us/ohrv/documents/annual-reg-form.pdf
we went to atv fest a couple years ago. i distinctly remember some of the local club guys saying how they simply couldn't maintain the trails with all the riders coming to the area now. i guess it was a double edged sword, tons of money came in but now tons more was going out for maintenance. i hope the added fees don't keep people away now as everything has it's tipping point cost-wise.
 
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