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So they are against the death penalty for murderers but will fight to be able to end the life of a child during pregnancy and up to birth
*ahem*RINOs
"They" who?So they are against the death penalty for murderers but will fight to be able to end the life of a child during pregnancy and up to birth
*ahem*
I'm right here, yanno. Speak directly if you want to.
"They" who?
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So they are against the death penalty for murderers but will fight to be able to end the life of a child during pregnancy and up to birth
Why is this such a big issue? I'm not in favor of the death penalty, but don't have a strong opinion about it.
It literally won't matter to anyone -- we have one guy on death row in New Hampshire, and the bill specifically says it's okay to execute him, just nobody after him.Politicians with nothing useful to offer their constituents always bring out stuff like this to placate them without actually having to do anything that will matter to anyone.
Instead of telegraphing to murderers that we're not going to end your sorry lives in a speedy manner and instead give you a cot and 3 squares and health care for the rest of your life I truly believe we should take a page out of the texas approach and create a fast/express lane for the top tier murderers.......fast trial, faster one time appeal then you get the equivalent of the giant bug zapper.
Better than them trying to pass more laws.Politicians with nothing useful to offer their constituents always bring out stuff like this to placate them without actually having to do anything that will matter to anyone.
That I believe is where you and I diverge
Every couple years we have a home invasiion or similar crime against us little people that is sufficiently brutal/clear cut and heinous to warrant swift/sure execution.
Lets remember that the purpose of PUNISHMENT in these cases isnt rehabilitation its RETALIATION that fits the crime in order to serve as a deterrent for future shit bags
If this is something that happens once every 80 years and if the Feds can probably take care of the situation, why do you need a "giant bug zapper"? The answer is you don't.
How many times in your life have you used a gun to defend yourself? Never? Well I guess you don't need one then. Don't worry if someone kills you and your family the fed can always come deal with it for you.
I wish MA politicians would focus on stupid sh*t every day, it would be better for us. It would be less time they spent raping us.
I voted in favor of the bill the first time, and I voted to override the veto.I assume you're saying you voted in favor of the veto over ride?
I'm pretty sure executing someone is more expensive than imprisonment.I'm not sure I agree that there's a pro liberty position to make wrt banning the death penalty for people who have committed the most heinous and final act of robbing others of the most precious liberty they have......
And then to further add insult to injury force taxpayers to fork over their hard earned wages to keep the shit bag alive for the rest of his/her life with no benefit whatsoever to society....
Yea....sorry but there's nothing pro liberty about opposing the death penalty
Stop for a moment and think about what has to happen to get someone sentenced to death.
First off, you need a crime sufficiently egregious to warrant the death penalty. Previously in NH, that just happens when a cop, judge, politician, or I believe a rape or kidnapping victim or drug user is killed by someone. There were a couple other wonky ones too. Cop murders happen once every decade in NH, give or take. I don't think a judge has ever been murdered in NH and there have only been four Federal judges killed in office per Wikipedia. Likewise with pols, I don't know of an assassination or assassination attempt in NH history. So let's go with rape then murder of the victim.
A trial in and of itself can last from two days for a three or four witness trial. Something with DNA evidence, expert witnesses, and the whole show lasts weeks. Have you ever watched a trial? I'm not talking about a trial on a movie or TV, I mean a real life trial in court that's open to the public. I've watched a Federal one for negligence and it took a week to get through the entire process. And negligence, in the grand scheme of things, is not complicated. Trials are also exceedingly rare as something like 95% of defendants accept a plea bargain.
Then you need a guilty verdict.
Then you need a separate sentencing jury or some way to ensure that the jury doesn't go off the handle and give ridiculously low or high sentences. Think about NH's political scene: do you seriously think you're going to find 6-12 people who are going to be hounding for a defendant's blood in any capital case? Divide up a 6-person jury into roughly the percentages of the presidential election and you'd have three liberals, two conservatives, and one libertarian. Are those people going to sentence to death?
Then someone requires at least one appeal. To deny someone an appeal, especially in a death sentence, would be a miscarriage of justice. However, yes, this can be expedited, but NH is a small enough state with a tiny state appellate court (in comparison to Mass, NY, TX, etc.).
When you put all this together, the right crime, the right trial, the right juries, the right case where an appeal makes no difference, the result is that capital cases in New England are exceedingly rare. And if something brutal does happen, like say the Boston Marathon bombings, the Feds can always come in and press for the death penalty.
If this is something that happens once every 80 years and if the Feds can probably take care of the situation, why do you need a "giant bug zapper"? The answer is you don't.
It's the ultimate pro-liberty liberty statement -- the government does not own your life, and doesn't have the right to take it.Yea....sorry but there's nothing pro liberty about opposing the death penaltyI voted in favor of the bill the first time, and I voted to override the veto.
That is the small-government, pro-justice, pro-liberty position, and I was not swayed by talk of changing my vote to support the governor.
I'm pretty sure its not........
I guarantee you that there are those of us in the population that could find a way of executing liberty stealing shitbags for under a dollar......
Hell, I'm pretty sure there are a raft of people that could turn this into a revenue generating event..........not just via traditional/expected means but forcing the shit bags organs to be donated to folks in need post mortem
More or less...Nationally. the number of people executed under death penalty are extremely small but where applied function more or less as designed.
So expand the ability of an incompetent government to kill its citizens and then incentivize this practice and privatize it. What could go wrong?
NH has had a death penalty that only applied to the most severe/certain types of murders for nearly 100 years
So your argument doesnt really hold water.
Nationally. the number of people executed under death penalty are extremely small but where applied function more or less as designed.
Some shit bag breaks into my home, kills my critters/family etc and is on camera doing it.......you tell me how execution isnt THE punishment that best fits the crime?