NH HB687 Red Flag Gun Confiscation bill vote scheduled for 1/8 or 1/9/2020"

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You're right, but a bunch of curmudgeonly octogenarians are not going to embrace social media in an effort to change hearts and minds.
Right, but this is not the audience you need to reach.



Podcasts and U tube are how and where the younger generations get there news and views from nowadays i have 2 stepsons, 1 early 20's 1 late 20's and all they watch are Joe Rogan and the like. You would need something like a team of kids from SNHU media arts to set up a studio to cast from, a host that has "it" that people will watch and believe and follow, and a web site to launch all this from. And that's just the little of it that i learned from my kids..lol Go old school and have open / free fishing derbys at your gun clubs, get the 4-H involved, start spreading the word through the teens in those groups, hold open shoots and lessons for kids, but you guys would have to supply the .22s.. Advertise old school, posters at guns shops , grocery markets, churches, local convienence stores, but if you do the kids shoot use clay pigeons and steel plates kids get bored with paper targets fast, and of course hamburgers, hotdogs and such. Don't forget in order for a kid to get there a parent has to drive them. Show the local newspapers how safe and fun and educational it all is. You could try the same thing at the SNHU level but use the Forestry / Game Warden type classes to get the word out also the R.O.T.C. if need be. Hell get N.H. Fish and Game in on it, they usually support any sporting event and may help spread the word.. Oh, i forgot for the college age you need bigger guns,, harder to impress them..lol Old school but hopefully effective.
Here you go! BINGO! The only thing is, take it from the old posters and flyers, and "spread the word" on social media. Kids don't go to gun shops all that much.
 
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Lol, I meant the guns shops for the general public that go in for ammo or just too look around but not really gun club or NES type members. I used to make posters but my wife won't let me eat the crayons anymore. Joking aside tho Coyote33 you sound like your "younger" , The "GoPro" age, if you and friends of yours GoPro'ed a shooting and information video and put it on U Tube then followed it with more , then you could be the " social media" that us geriatrics don't know how to get into. Also so when i talked about the shooting events and stuff i mentally implied that that they were supposed to be videoed and posted also but nobody heard me.
 
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Sorry, I'm over 50 for whatever that's worth. I need to stay on top of my kids, which is how I know a little bit about this. Everybody says the kids are the future. If that's the case, gun owners are going to be in tough shape the way this thread is going.
 

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Here you go! BINGO! The only thing is, take it from the old posters and flyers, and "spread the word" on social media. Kids don't go to gun shops all that much.
Kids don't listen to oldsters as a rule. They get their opinions from their peers. THAT's why targeting them is a waste of time.

And recruiting kids as "missionaries" is correctly seen by them as proselytizing.
 

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I support the police, but when push comes to shove, if the demoncrat nazis come for your guns, not because your dangerous but just because, the cops will likely be the enemy. They might have been nice guys for the last 10 years, but they don't want to lose their pensions and will, in many cases, do whatever the left wing autocrats ask them to. Never trust the gov't, pure and simple.
 

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All,

The NH House is coming back into session this week and will vote on HB687 Red Flag/Gun Confiscation bill

We need folks to make calls to reps, send emails to urge them to vote AGAINST the biill.

Sample language stolen from a past NHFC alert is below......but please feel free to point out in your email/conversation with Reps that HB687 is such a repugnant violation of the NH and US Constitutions as well as their oaths to uphold each that EVEN THE NH ACLU TESTIFIED IN OPPOSITION TO HB687........

Modded NHFC language below:

Dear Representatives:


You are scheduled to vote on HB-687 when the house returns this week on a bill that should have been legally titled “Red Flag, Gun Confiscation”. This bill, as well as the proposed amendment [2019-2790h] by the Representative from the town of Merrimack, Rep. Nancy Murphy [603.424.0254], violates our Second, Fourth and Fourteenth Amendment rights. The bill, as well as the amendment, also violates numerous sections of the New Hampshire Constitution.


Last spring when you conducted a public hearing on HB 687, gun confiscation, it was abundantly clear that opponents outnumbered supporters. And for good reason, HB 687 deprives individuals of their natural and Constitutional rights without due process by allowing ex-parte hearings, conducted by telephone, allowing judges to order the confiscation of a person’s guns without that person even being present. Sure, the accused can have a court hearing after his/her property has been taken but that is not due process. Furthermore, the “accused” would be forced to spend tens of thousands of dollars on attorneys and experts to reclaim their civil right to bear arms. A person who is accused of a crime, even a low level offense retains their Constitutional right to face their accuser and have their day in court before punishment is meted out. However, in the case of HB 687 a person will be deprived of their property without a court hearing.


ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! As a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, I urge you to OPPOSE HB 687 and any amendments. Please do not force this unconstitutional scheme into law.


Please vote against passage of HB687, The New Hampshire Firearms Coalition will keep me informed of your vote.


Thank you for your consideration

Links to how to contact your rep:


Link to csv of all reps contact info: http://gencourt.state.nh.us/downloads/Members.xls
 
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Total bad news for every gun owner. Pretty soon we’re all going to be legal criminals. f*** it why be legal about it anymore ? Don’t see anybody with power helping us out !! Literally takes an act of Congress for the Supreme Court to hear and help the little legal people. I feel like the constitution is totaly ignored now. You never hear of anybody being punished for treading on our LEGAL rights !! Tired of being shit on.
I know that I have been flamed on this forum by folks like "Whacko" (his screen name says it all!) and others while cheered on by others like "
One Eyed Jack" about registering firearms in this state. They demand that we follow the fa10 law but LE agencies acquire automatic weapons and grenade launchers free from the military and do not report it to us taxpayers. I will never, ever, register a gun. If that makes me a felon, then I will enjoy being a very content felon!
 
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I know that I have been flamed on this forum by folks like "Whacko" (his screen name says it all!) and others while cheered on by others like "
One Eyed Jack" about registering firearms in this state. They demand that we follow the fa10 law but LE agencies acquire automatic weapons and grenade launchers free from the military and do not report it to us taxpayers. I will never, ever, register a gun. If that makes me a felon, then I will enjoy being a very content felon!
There are no fa10 laws in NH. [rolleyes]
 

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Back to the thread topic

I've heard that a number of folks will be attending the vote/session to show opposition to this repulsive bill

Shoot me a PM and I'll see if I can coordinate/put you in touch with folks that have indicated they plan to attend

In the meantime send email/call etc....

All,

The NH House is coming back into session this week and will vote on HB687 Red Flag/Gun Confiscation bill

We need folks to make calls to reps, send emails to urge them to vote AGAINST the biill.

Sample language stolen from a past NHFC alert is below......but please feel free to point out in your email/conversation with Reps that HB687 is such a repugnant violation of the NH and US Constitutions as well as their oaths to uphold each that EVEN THE NH ACLU TESTIFIED IN OPPOSITION TO HB687........

Modded NHFC language below:

Dear Representatives:


You are scheduled to vote on HB-687 when the house returns this week on a bill that should have been legally titled “Red Flag, Gun Confiscation”. This bill, as well as the proposed amendment [2019-2790h] by the Representative from the town of Merrimack, Rep. Nancy Murphy [603.424.0254], violates our Second, Fourth and Fourteenth Amendment rights. The bill, as well as the amendment, also violates numerous sections of the New Hampshire Constitution.


Last spring when you conducted a public hearing on HB 687, gun confiscation, it was abundantly clear that opponents outnumbered supporters. And for good reason, HB 687 deprives individuals of their natural and Constitutional rights without due process by allowing ex-parte hearings, conducted by telephone, allowing judges to order the confiscation of a person’s guns without that person even being present. Sure, the accused can have a court hearing after his/her property has been taken but that is not due process. Furthermore, the “accused” would be forced to spend tens of thousands of dollars on attorneys and experts to reclaim their civil right to bear arms. A person who is accused of a crime, even a low level offense retains their Constitutional right to face their accuser and have their day in court before punishment is meted out. However, in the case of HB 687 a person will be deprived of their property without a court hearing.


ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! As a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, I urge you to OPPOSE HB 687 and any amendments. Please do not force this unconstitutional scheme into law.


Please vote against passage of HB687, The New Hampshire Firearms Coalition will keep me informed of your vote.


Thank you for your consideration

Links to how to contact your rep:

Welcome to the NH General Court | NH General Court
Official web site of the NH General Court
gencourt.state.nh.us


Link to csv of all reps contact info: http://gencourt.state.nh.us/downloads/Members.xls
 

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Customized my email blast from NRA - sometimes the only replies I get are those criticizing me for using a "form email" as though that invalidates my intentions. When we vote, we all fill in the bubble, pull the lever or check the box - no "personal touch" required.
 
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A way to force them to “Honor your oath”? A Remonstrance on HB 687-FN (Extreme Protection Orders)
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These democrats don't give a damn what we want or what the constitution says. To their way of thinking, even if 75% of the state didn't want it, they'd still vote for it. This is the way they are programmed.

10,000 pro gun rights people could pack the LOB and the capitol building and they would still vote for the red flag bill. The ONLY way to get rid of these shitty bills from coming up is to vote enough pro 2A people in to squash this crap. Dems aren't going to budge. They just don't give a damn. I have talked and spoken at these hearings for what? They don't care...it's so obvious we're just taking up their time. Their minds were already made up from the get go, regardless of what they say. Seriously, have any dems minds been changed by the testimonies of those that gave up their time to show up to speak? I seriously doubt it.

If this bill is signed by the governor, right now our last line of defense, NH, my home state for 63 years, will most likely be in my rearview mirror.
 
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201 That support guilty until proven innocent. 201 traitors.
The margin is coincidentally = the number of seats that the NH GOP failed to run a GOP candidate at all in during the last election......in other words we just GAVE the Dems 25 seats unopposed.....

The 176 against the bill includes roughly 2 DOZEN plus Dems that voted against the bill.....

Next step will be hearing in the Senate but its also time to email/call the Gov (603-271-2121) and email him to urge him to veto should it get thru the Senate.

email/web form for Sununu is here Share My Opinion
 

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And it passed. It better be Vetoed
Whether or not its vetoed or not depends on each of us reaching out to Gov Sununu early/often and politely assure him that this bill being signed into law will result in loss of the base turning out for him in the 2020 election.

Sununu has a fight on his hands for the next election and allowing this vote to become law will assure he loses vote......while vetoeing the bill will not gain him any votes.....no one is going to be swayed to vote for sununu if he supports gun control and violates the constitution.......
 

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The margin is coincidentally = the number of seats that the NH GOP failed to run a GOP candidate at all in during the last election......in other words we just GAVE the Dems 25 seats unopposed.....
This is so frustrating.
 
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