Boghog1
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NH Committee Passes Repeal of SYG
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KBCraig
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Don't be too sure about that. I've been Facebook friends with several elected NH folks since way before we moved. At least two current reps sent me friend requests based on my comments (which they had seen via mutual friends). Same for my county GOP chairman. Recently retired state senator John Gallus read my "letter from a future constituent" into the record during the floor debate on the first attempt at a smoking ban (when was that, 2005 or 2006?), and we didn't even move until 2012. He also regularly emailed me about real estate listings of interest -- not automated spam, but actual, personalized, emails about property that he knew met our criteria.
The great thing about 400 reps and 24 senators, is that they really are your neighbors, and neighborly.
Lank
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Same here. And I grew up there!
Add DC controlling everything, NH is no different than San Fransisco.
Seceede! I'm in
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KBCraig
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Like many people who are large, loud, mercurial, and accustomed to getting their way through verbal bombastics and no small amount of physical intimidation, Steve Vaillancourt has good reason to hope other people aren't carrying guns.
He is a bully who is all over the map, and no friend even when he's an ally -- because he will turn in an instant if he feels insulted.
Lank
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Enjoy it while it lasts, and I am not trying to sound jealous or mean- DC is destroying state freedoms
Boghog1
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I have a horrible memory does anyone recall the article not too long ago where the guy went off his property to defend a neighbor and IIRC he shot a dog but was then charged because he was not on his own property?
SpaceCritter
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Methinks you're right. Perhaps I SHOULD send them some correspondence, especially as I WILL be a voter come their reelection campaigns.
I am going to open a thread in the members only area. No need to share the plan of attack with the world...
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...ghs-how-defeat-repeal-syg-nh.html#post2978331
please continue the discussion on the other page.
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I saw that and I am livid.
I posted a comment to his blog:
Instead of responding to discuss, you publicly publish and trivialize? I didn't send my email in "hate". I sent it to give you my opinion and see what your response would be. Now I have seen your response. Do you think so little of your fellow New Hampshire residents? Do you think so little of your constituents?
It seems trivial to share your opinion.... Is it so difficult to listen to others?
Looks like he feels he hasn't received enough 'hate email' on this topic:
he ends this blog entry with this comment:
Emphasis is his!
I believe it was Vailancourf that throughout the committee hearings kept asking people something similar to 'do you know of anyone that has sued in the court system over this?' Perhaps he doesn't know how much it would cost someone to sue in court!?!?!?! Do we have anyone that can spare hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend what is a 2A right?
Source: NH INSIDER- Your Source for NH Politics - Rep Steve Vaillancourt - Stand Your Ground "Hate Emails" Minimal
he ends this blog entry with this comment:
Emphasis is his!
I believe it was Vailancourf that throughout the committee hearings kept asking people something similar to 'do you know of anyone that has sued in the court system over this?' Perhaps he doesn't know how much it would cost someone to sue in court!?!?!?! Do we have anyone that can spare hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend what is a 2A right?
Source: NH INSIDER- Your Source for NH Politics - Rep Steve Vaillancourt - Stand Your Ground "Hate Emails" Minimal
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CORRECT he is an attention buffoon. If yo recall he wad tossed out of the house for giving a Nazi salute. Everyone of these a**h***s should be removed and there had to be an ongoing vigilance to do so. Although truth be told of the perp is taken out, I tried to escape
Hey Vallincourt, when you are getting hate emails for writing laws that criminalize the victims of violent crime, perhaps you should take that to mean you are doing it wrong? Just a thought?
The only upside of all this nonsense is that they have put all the conspiracy and partisan nonsense to rest and made a lot of people realize what is going on and that they need to get involved and flush the toilet that is progressive governance.
Don't be fooled, this cancer has metastasized. It is everywhere, it started nearly 100 years ago if not before. It grew through the primary schools and universities, the news media, the entertainment media and from within cities.
It is the convergence of two forces: the childish/naive ideas of Marxist "fairness" from the bottom coupled with displaced monarchy/nobility fighting to regain their power lost in the last 300 years from the top. It is not just a MA problem and writing it off as such won't accomplish anything.
Letter sent to me today(USPS) by NHFC:
March 4th 2013.
Dear Representative,
The New Hampshire Firearms Coalition is an organization comprised of law abiding firearms owners, manufacturers and dealers.
There are several bills before you this week that are of significant importance to firearms owners in the state of NH.
HB 382-FN
HB 382-FN recognizes the God Given Rights all men have, as codified in Article 2 and 2a of the NH Constitution, to protect themselves and their property by carrying a pistol or revolver on their person within the state.
In 2009, the fee for obtaining a pistol license was increased 500 percent. The license fee was never intended to be a tax to balance the state budget. Citizens should not be taxed to exercise their Constitutional Rights.
HB 382-FN will reduce the Tax demanded by the State to the 2009 level.
By making the fee affordable again, New Hampshire will increase the number of people applying for the license. Thus more people will come to our state for vacations, hunting and sporting events that would enhance other revenues in ways that have not been accounted for.
It is the steadfast position of the New Hampshire Firearms Coalition that there should be no fee whatsoever to exercise any God given right, including the right to carry a firearm. The wisest move the Legislature can make is to eliminate the burden on those that would otherwise travel to our State and bring their business with them.
With that in mind NHFC asks you to oppose the CJ&PS committee's recommendation of ITL and support a OTP motion for HB 382.
HB 498
Current law requires written permission from the chief of police to discharge a firearm within a compact zone. However, the definition of “compact zone” is broad enough to limit the safe exercise of ones rights in significant portions of the state.
NH citizens should not be forced to beg for permission from their chief in order exercise their right to practice with a firearm.
NH Chiefs are reluctant to take on the perceived liability from deeming each situation "safe", thus making the current law dysfunctional!
HB 498 proposes the removal of the requirement under RSA 644:13 to alert the local police prior to a discharge of a firearm or cannon in connection with a military funeral, national holiday or other military commemorations in "compact zones." The Criminal Justice and Public Safety Committee has voted 13-6 to recommend killing this bill.
The current text of the bill creates separate classes of citizens and it is bad public policy to create separate classes of citizens.
The real burden of RSA 644:13 lies on individual homeowners within Rural Residential Districts. Although they are often bordered by ample open space behind their houses to safely practice with their firearms, they are denied the right to do so because of the side setback requirements. The New Hampshire Firearms Coalition urges the complete repeal of RSA 644:13, thru a floor amendment.
Other statues already address the safe discharge of Firearms. Current law only restricts the Rights of the law abiding! The Floor Amendment will also address the concerns of HB498's sponsors.
We will be informing our members about the actions you take on this and other legislation.
Rep. Hoell
March 4th 2013.
Dear Representative,
The New Hampshire Firearms Coalition is an organization comprised of law abiding firearms owners, manufacturers and dealers.
There are several bills before you this week that are of significant importance to firearms owners in the state of NH.
HB 382-FN
HB 382-FN recognizes the God Given Rights all men have, as codified in Article 2 and 2a of the NH Constitution, to protect themselves and their property by carrying a pistol or revolver on their person within the state.
In 2009, the fee for obtaining a pistol license was increased 500 percent. The license fee was never intended to be a tax to balance the state budget. Citizens should not be taxed to exercise their Constitutional Rights.
HB 382-FN will reduce the Tax demanded by the State to the 2009 level.
By making the fee affordable again, New Hampshire will increase the number of people applying for the license. Thus more people will come to our state for vacations, hunting and sporting events that would enhance other revenues in ways that have not been accounted for.
It is the steadfast position of the New Hampshire Firearms Coalition that there should be no fee whatsoever to exercise any God given right, including the right to carry a firearm. The wisest move the Legislature can make is to eliminate the burden on those that would otherwise travel to our State and bring their business with them.
With that in mind NHFC asks you to oppose the CJ&PS committee's recommendation of ITL and support a OTP motion for HB 382.
HB 498
Current law requires written permission from the chief of police to discharge a firearm within a compact zone. However, the definition of “compact zone” is broad enough to limit the safe exercise of ones rights in significant portions of the state.
NH citizens should not be forced to beg for permission from their chief in order exercise their right to practice with a firearm.
NH Chiefs are reluctant to take on the perceived liability from deeming each situation "safe", thus making the current law dysfunctional!
HB 498 proposes the removal of the requirement under RSA 644:13 to alert the local police prior to a discharge of a firearm or cannon in connection with a military funeral, national holiday or other military commemorations in "compact zones." The Criminal Justice and Public Safety Committee has voted 13-6 to recommend killing this bill.
The current text of the bill creates separate classes of citizens and it is bad public policy to create separate classes of citizens.
The real burden of RSA 644:13 lies on individual homeowners within Rural Residential Districts. Although they are often bordered by ample open space behind their houses to safely practice with their firearms, they are denied the right to do so because of the side setback requirements. The New Hampshire Firearms Coalition urges the complete repeal of RSA 644:13, thru a floor amendment.
Other statues already address the safe discharge of Firearms. Current law only restricts the Rights of the law abiding! The Floor Amendment will also address the concerns of HB498's sponsors.
We will be informing our members about the actions you take on this and other legislation.
Rep. Hoell
Last night I was thinking about Vaillancourt telling you to "gtaffaard." In what world is it acceptable for a politician to speak to someone like that? Seriously, when did elected officials start acting like twelve year old kids?
A guy like that should be ashamed of himself.
Could you imagine a state rep fifty or seventy five years ago telling a resident to "go take a flying **** at a rolling donut"? Jesus H. Christ, if someone said that to my grandfather's face he would have knocked them out.
This is what happens when politicians stop fearing the citizens.
there seem to be a number of Democrats that have repeated the mantra of "I'm not trying to take away your 2A rights, but..." often enough that they have started to believe their blatant attacks on our 2A rights are not. They've been smoking too much decriminalized weed I guess.
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My suggestion was that they moved here LEGALLY. Do the paperwork and as I said if they want to move back to mass take all the nice handguns back with them for the trouble.
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