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NH: [3], nope.. now 4 anti-gun bills , we need to call the Senate to stop them, update page 7

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by design, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. MaverickNH

    MaverickNH NES Member

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    Wonder if we can make a summary like this - bills, topics, links, dates, progress - a first post in this thread to update for tracking?
     
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  2. design

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    Would anyone want to go help deliver some petitions to the Speaker? :)
     
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  3. design

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    The bad news: 2 Anti-gun bills passed the House today.
    The good news: the margins were small enough to allow for a veto.
     
  4. 42!

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    Which two??
     
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    HB696 (Gun confiscation under the guise of a 'elder protection act'") passed 208/132 NHFC and GOA and GONH opposed, other groups MIA
    HB564 (Statewide roaming gun bans passed 'GFSZ, including buses') 194/154 NHFC, GOA, GONH and some other groups opposed.

    We need to work harder to stop these. There is one more chance. Please sign and share the following petition and get your friends out at the next hearing. 3/5 for the next red flag bill
    https://www.nhfc-ontarget.org/petition-to-stop-all-proposed-2019-anti-gun-legislation/

    Also sign up for the free alerts on NH legislation.
    https://www.nhfc-ontarget.org/join-nhfc/

    FWIW, the gun groups started 22-0 in the hole with a committee report that was unanimously supported and managed to get 132 votes against the bill on the floor in just one week. Just think how much more we can do if everyone gets off the sidelines.
     
  7. KBCraig

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    We have a serious problem with the "Republicans" on the Health & Human Services committee.
     
  8. design

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    If there was ever something understated:...
     
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  10. MaverickNH

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    Gun bill passes N.H. House; representative warns ‘there will be dead children’

    “The bill, which passed 194-154, divided legislators from the start. But a graphic comment against the bill by Rep. John Burt, a Republican and strong gun rights advocate, set off an already-tense atmosphere. “If this bill passes, there will be a school shooting in New Hampshire,” Burt said. “When that happens, there will be dead children. And the blood of those children will be on the hands of these people (who are voting for this).” Before he was finished, the representative earned a sustained boo from some members in the chamber and a rebuke from Democratic Speaker Steve Shurtleff.”

    Despite all evidence showing no student has been shot dead by a SRO, teacher or admin/staff carrying a gun in 20 states for up to a decade, and despite the fact all schools shooters who killed students/teachers in Gun Free Zones with firearms that were not denied them by Background Checks, Rep Burt is admonished for telling the truth. The anti-gunners can show pictures of massacres, crying parents/children, crosses and empty shoes but cannot hear the facts without resentment.
     
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  11. design

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    *Never* let the facts get in the way of a good story that sells news papers.
     
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    Well, good on John Burt, and Shurtleff can suck a f***ing egg. And I'm speaking as someone who almost lost a friend at Sandy Hook Elementary, precisely because she was legally disarmed. (She had to resort to hiding herself amongst Christmas decorations in an empty classroom.)
     
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    So what is the process forward to sign bills into law? Like US, does NH have laws passed House go to Senate and back to House committee for rectifying any wording changes? That is, can laws voted pass from NH House be defeated elsewhere or only at Governor’s veto?
     
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    Subscribing since I just move to NH and want to keep an eye on these.
     
  15. design

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    Bills need to pass from the House to the Senate, or vice-versa and then if passed with the same language in both bodies they go to the Governor. He has 5 days to veto or the bills become law w/o signature.
     
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    Some House bills get referred to a second committee. That committee then holds the full set of hearings again, issues its own report, which is then voted on again in the House.

    If that vote passes, then the bill gets handed over to the Senate, where they'll do whatever they do (mostly hold four hour hearings on five minute bills).

    If the Senate amends a bill, it will go to a committee of conference, where the differences will be hammered out and made to match. That final version then has to be voted on by both chambers.

    Only then will it reach the governor.
     
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    The "School" bills should have gone to crim justice committee.......IDK if it can be protested/contested due to the fact that it did NOT

    Same with the Senior Red Flag bill 696
     
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    Can someone confirm? My non-NH experience say committees are non-binding and technically not required. Strictly advisory and no bill has to go to any specific committee.
     
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  19. design

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    House rules cover this: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/abouthouse/houserules.htm
    See rule 4 and 30 cover this: The speaker has the final say in which committee the bill goes to:

    4. Referral of bills, etc., to committees. The Speaker shall refer all bills, resolutions, memorials, accounts and other matters coming before the House to the appropriate committees, unless otherwise ordered by the House. The Speaker may refer the same jointly to two committees or to a special committee.

    30. Committee names and duties. The following standing policy committees shall be appointed at the commencement of any session and will consist of not more than 24 members, with the exception of the House Finance Committee, which will have no more than 26 members: Children and Family Law; Commerce and Consumer Affairs; Criminal Justice and Public Safety; Education; Election Law; Environment and Agriculture; Executive Departments and Administration; Finance; Fish and Game and Marine Resources; Health, Human Services and Elderly Affairs; Judiciary; Labor, Industrial and Rehabilitative Services; Legislative Administration; Municipal and County Government; Public Works and Highways; Resources, Recreation and Development; Rules; Science, Technology and Energy; State-Federal Relations and Veterans Affairs; Transportation; and Ways and Means. The Speaker may designate divisions within committees.

    (a) It shall be the duty of the Committee on Children and Family Law to consider matters relating to children and youth, their rights, obligations, and protection, including all matters covered by RSA 169-B, 169-C, and 169-D, divorce, custody and child support; the application of criminal laws and sentencing to children and such other matters as may be referred to it.

    (b) It shall be the duty of the Committee on Commerce and Consumer Affairs to consider all matters pertaining to commerce, banks and banking institutions; insurance companies and contracts or insurance of any character; the licensing of businesses to sell liquor; the needs of the business community; all matters relating to consumer affairs and the economic conditions of commerce and industry; all matters relating to the economic development of the state, and such other matters as may be referred to it.

    (c) It shall be the duty of the Committee on Criminal Justice and Public Safety to consider all matters relating to the criminal code; criminal justice, the Department of Corrections, sentencing, drug enforcement, bail, probation, parole, corrections facilities, DWI, domestic violence, firearms, fireworks, police and fire training, victims’ assistance and such other matters as may be referred to it.

    (d) It shall be the duty of the Committee on Education to consider subjects relating to the regulation of school districts and schools; the postsecondary college system; the University System of New Hampshire; matters concerning education; and such other matters as may be referred to it.

    (e) It shall be the duty of the Committee on Election Law to consider all matters relating to the election laws of the state, including campaign finance, the Ballot Law Commission, redistricting, and such other matters as may be referred to it.

    (f) It shall be the duty of the Committee on Environment and Agriculture to consider all matters concerning agricultural and farm problems of the state, physical land use including current use, the various agricultural organizations, the protection of the state's environment from forms of pollution other than air or water pollution, waste management issues, and such other matters as may be referred to it.

    (g) It shall be the duty of the Committee on Executive Departments and Administration to consider matters pertaining to the general administration of state laws and changes therein; matters of policy pertaining to the executive departments; matters relating to the New Hampshire Retirement System; matters pertaining to the administration of professional licensing; review of performance audits, and such other matters as may be referred to it.

    (h) It shall be the duty of the Committee on Finance to examine and consider the state of the treasury and the budget; subjects concerning the financial interest of the state; all measures carrying appropriations of state money except claims against the state and such other matters as may be referred to it. Prior to the report of the Finance Committee to the House, the Speaker may refer the budget of certain self-sustaining state agencies to appropriate committees for study and recommendation.

    (i) It shall be the duty of the Committee on Fish and Game and Marine Resources to consider all matters concerning conservation, improvement and preservation of fish, game and non-game species and marine resources within the state; and such other matters as may be referred to it.

    (j) It shall be the duty of the Committee on Health, Human Services and Elderly Affairs to consider all matters concerning the health of the inhabitants of the state; vital statistics; medical and related professions; the administration of welfare activities by the state government; matters relating to the special needs of our elderly citizens and such other matters as may be referred to it.

    (1.) It shall be the duty of the Subcommittee on Mental Health, Addiction and Recovery to consider all matters referred to the Health, Human Services and Elderly Affairs Committee pertaining to mental health, addiction, treatment, recovery, and suicide prevention and other such matters as may be referred to it, and to make a recommendation on such matters to the full committee.

    (k) It shall be the duty of the Committee on Judiciary to consider all matters relating to the judicial system, right-to-know law, guardianships, life and death (such as abortion or assisted death), landlord/tenant rights, civil proceedings, tort law, forfeiture, immunity, and probate; and such other matters as may be referred to it.

    ...
     
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    They ought to be lynched.
     
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    Any repugs should be flushed as soon as possible.
     
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    Here is an update for this past week:

    Important legislative update!
    by NHFC, Inc. on March 2, 2019[edit]

    This week the House of Representatives voted to approve HB 696, the so called Elder Care / Gun Confiscation bill that we have been warning you about. We expected most anti-gun Democrats to support gun confiscation. However, we were surprised to see eleven Republicans abandon their party platform and vote for gun confiscation. Especially since the GOP made it clear that the party is opposed to HB 696, gun confiscation. I am very happy to finally see the GOP Chair working so hard to enforce the provisions of the party platform.

    Here’s the GOP gallery of shame:

    Rep. David Danielson, Bedford
    Rep. Dennis Fields, Sanbornton
    Rep. John Fothergill, Colebrook
    Rep. Betty Gay, Salem
    * Rep. Edward Gordon, Bristol
    Rep. Joseph Guthrie, Hampstead
    Rep. Frank Kotowski, Hooksett
    * Rep. William Marsh, Wolfeboro
    * Rep. Charles McMahon, Windham
    Rep. Walter Stapleton, Claremont
    Rep. John Sytek, Salem

    Of these eleven rogue Republicans, the Representatives marked with an * are co-sponsors of gun confiscation. The remaining eight are simply treasonous. Click here to see how all Representatives voted then make sure to thank your Representatives who opposed gun confiscation. HB 696 is scheduled to go to a second committee, (Criminal Justice and Public Safety Committee) and when we have additional information we will send an alert out.

    [more]
     
  23. omega42

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    Where's the like button for John Burt?

    Replaced by what, exactly? This is the downside of a de facto (partially de jure due to rigged ballot access laws) two party system. Our choices are all too often bad vs. worse.
     
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    Funny you say this, I read the most recent email I got from the NHGOP and for the first time ever I wasnt angry about what it said.
     
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    John A Burt
     
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    Everyone, make sure you ask your reps to sign in AGAINST this bill in addition to what every else that they are doing that day.
     
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    I don't have any committee hearings, but I'm pondering going down just to sign in on several bills that day.
     
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    I’ve been wondering where my rep is in all this? He has been MIA at the most important votes the past few weeks. No vote/unexcused absences. I sent him a text a few days back with no response as of yet. I texted my floterial rep and he’s going to look into it. I’m pretty pissed.
     
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    HB 101 was voted ITL on 2/20 (Bill Title: relative to regulating possession of firearms in a school district.)

    HB 564 Gun Free School Zone Bill was voted OTP with amendment wrt people dropping off/picking up students. Being heard in Crim Just Cmte
    03/26/2019 11:00 AM LOB Room 204


    HB 109 requiring background checks for commercial firearms sales OTP and will go to house floor

    HB 514 imposing a waiting period between the purchase and delivery of a firearm. OTP and will go to house floor

    There are TWO gun bills scheduled for 3/26 Tues....the 696 Red Flag bill and 564 Gun Free School bill.....we need folks to turn out for these hearings......
     
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    It's on my calendar.
     
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