Next steps after Fed Judge sides with Healey?

[breyton490]

I checked the Goal and Comm2A sites but did not see the answer to my question.. Is there a next step planned or action that can be taken after the recent ruling by a Fed Judge to side with Healeys re-interpretation of the MA AWB law?

 

[76Too]

Total Confiscation.

Jack Boot Thugs.

Arm Bands.

Numbers Tattoo'd on Forearms for ID.

Genocide.

 

[M1911]

Don't expect Comm2A to telegraph their moves. If Comm2A believes they have a viable next step, then they will take it if and when they are ready. It isn't wise for them to announce anything in advance, thus giving the AG's office more time to prepare.

 

[PATRON]

Well Healey will send police to the homes,and take the guns away,until they run into that one person who like our founding father will say no more,and repeat that shot heard around the world.

 

[DispositionMatrix]

Well Healey will send police to the homes,and take the guns away,until they run into that one person who like our founding father will say no more,and repeat that shot heard around the world.

No.

 

[M1911]

Well Healey will send police to the homes,and take the guns away,until they run into that one person who like our founding father will say no more,and repeat that shot heard around the world.

Healey doesn't have the power to do that. No police agencies work for the Attorney General's office.

 

[PATRON]

Healey doesn't have the power to do that. No police agencies work for the Attorney General's office.

Tell that to all the gun stores that are not selling AR15 anymore.She will do whatever she wants,and the State will let her get away with it.

 

[M1911]

Tell that to all the gun stores that are not sell AR15 anymore.She will do whatever she wants,and the State will let her get away with it.

Oh, come on. What I wrote was accurate.

She wrote memos to a bunch of gun stores. She didn't send police officers to the stores because she can't do that -- police agencies don't work for her.

You wrote:

Healey will send police to the homes,and take the guns away

Once again, police agencies don't report to the Attorney General's office. Healey can't call up and order a police officer to do anything. She may write a memo and send that to all the police chiefs, who are then free to follow her recommended course of action or not. Some chiefs will do what she wants. Some chiefs will file her memo in the circular file.

 

[DispositionMatrix]

Healey doesn't have the power to do that. No police agencies work for the Attorney General's office.

True, but her office could issue "guidance" highlighting an opportunity for PDs to participate in some door-kicking PR of the type that allows their LEOs to play dress-up and ride in the force's 1033 MRAP--all under the pretense of keeping the community safe. The LEOs would not be able to get their shemaghs on fast enough.

 

[M1911]

True, but her office could issue "guidance" highlighting an opportunity for PDs to participate in some door-kicking PR of the type that allows their LEOs to play dress-up and ride in the force's 1033 MRAP--all under the pretense of keeping the community safe. The LEOs would not be able to get their shemaghs on fast enough.

Some would. Some wouldn’t.

 

[DispositionMatrix]

Some would. Some wouldn’t.

True that such operations would not be in the budget for every department.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Don't expect Comm2A to telegraph their moves. If Comm2A believes they have a viable next step, then they will take it if and when they are ready. It isn't wise for them to announce anything in advance, thus giving the AG's office more time to prepare.

Notice of appeal was filed earlier this week. Next stop is the First Circuit.

Oh, come on. What I wrote was accurate.

She wrote memos to a bunch of gun stores. She didn't send police officers to the stores because she can't do that -- police agencies don't work for her.

Once again, police agencies don't report to the Attorney General's office. Healey can't call up and order a police officer to do anything. She may write a memo and send that to all the police chiefs, who are then free to follow her recommended course of action or not. Some chiefs will do what she wants. Some chiefs will file her memo in the circular file.

Correct. This isn't going to happen anytime soon.

 

[Boston4567]

I checked the Goal and Comm2A sites but did not see the answer to my question.. Is there a next step planned or action that can be taken after the recent ruling by a Fed Judge to side with Healeys re-interpretation of the MA AWB law?

Current status/next steps:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTMIFns_4g8

 

[ProGun]

I don't have much faith in many PD's (if any) just ignoring dictates from Herr Healy's office. I'm not sure how often lower level SS ignored dictates from Himmler's office, either.

 

[M1911]

I don't have much faith in many PD's (if any) just ignoring dictates from Herr Healy's office. I'm not sure how often lower level SS ignored dictates from Himmler's office, either.

Once again, police departments don’t report to the AG’s office.

 

[Palladin]

write up in this month's Rifleman

 

[Boston4567]

Once again, police departments don’t report to the AG’s office.

State Police have a detective unit assigned to the AG's office. I can't imagine there are that many troopers assigned, though. And from Healey's perspective, no need to make actual waves when you can sue Trump and smile for the cameras.

 

[M1911]

State Police have a detective unit assigned to the AG's office. I can't imagine there are that many troopers assigned, though. And from Healey's perspective, no need to make actual waves when you can sue Trump and smile for the cameras.

Yes, she has a few detectives. That’s it.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

I posted an update in the correct thread: NSSF filed vs AGO!

 

[mark056]

Well Healey will send police to the homes,and take the guns away,until they run into that one person who like our founding father will say no more,and repeat that shot heard around the world.

Highly unlikely that would happen with the citizenry of Massachusetts, even the armed ones. If such an incident were to take place, the way the person would be portrayed by the media, would simply make him look like an angry gun nut. Incidents like this would not garner popular support in a place like this.

Even during the American Revolution, some historians have postulated that no more than 1/3 of the population supported the war at any given time, 1/3 against the war, and 1/3 neutral.

 

[s11033]

Question for you guys-

Justice Kennedy’s retirement has been announced effective 7/31 and that the Republicans are very likely to be able to appoint yet another justice. Justice Thomas is making noise about the 2nd Amendment being treated as having second-class status. If this case rose to the Supreme Court and the court ruled in favor of the Constitution, would anything bad happen to Healey for overstepping her authority, or would she be able to go on her merry way? Would a separate lawsuit have to be filed for damages ie. class action for lost income from FFLs?

Thanks!

S11

 

[Boston4567]

Question for you guys-

Justice Kennedy’s retirement has been announced effective 7/31 and that the Republicans are very likely to be able to appoint yet another justice. Justice Thomas is making noise about the 2nd Amendment being treated as having second-class status. If this case rose to the Supreme Court and the court ruled in favor of the Constitution, would anything bad happen to Healey for overstepping her authority, or would she be able to go on her merry way? Would a separate lawsuit have to be filed for damages ie. class action for lost income from FFLs?

Thanks!

S11

Qualified immunity protects government officials from discretionary actions taken in their official capacity. The only exception is if their actions violate "clearly established" constitutional rights. The Second Amendment has only been incorporated against the states for 8 years (6 years when she made her AWB dictate), and the rights around AWBs are not at all "clearly established," so she would receive qualified immunity.

Qualified immunity could only be lost if the First Circuit (or SCOTUS) ruled on the issue of assault weapons bans (or bans on particular types of weapons) and she subsequently issued an "enforcement notice" that disregarded that ruling.

 

[greencobra]

.....would anything bad happen to Healey for overstepping her authority.....

if I were you, i'd start practicing holding my breath now.

 

[M1911]

Nothing bad will happen to Healey.

 

[s11033]

Roger that, thanks guys.

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