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If you have been paying attention, there are plenty of us who are regularly shooting 600 - 1000 yards in competition. While being decent long distant paper punchers or steel plate ringers doesn't make us elite marksmen, I think we are qualified to question a 4.4 mile record that is not repeatable. LOL try missing the target even a couple times during your first shots at Camp Perry. They will toss you off the range.I feel like the people commenting in this thread probably leave the range feeling unbelievably proud and like they are elite marksman after hitting a 24" target at 100 yards on only their third shot!
Do you clowns realize how far 4.4 miles is?
So they posted a response video.... They basically said it was a bs trick shot and almost entirely luck.
Yeah, 23232 feet, 7744 yards, or proclaimed length of the collective NES Stud ClubSo we NES clowns do know how far 4.4 miles is?
So they see this shot as a proof of principle. It seems like a lot of people in the audience want reduction to practice.His facial expressions are annoying.
But I appreciate he said it was pure luck. I respect that.
There should be a standard for a record, but that is my personal opinion.
it shouldn't be considered to be a record. Any fool can lob a round out into space and eventually its gonna hit something.So they see this shot as a proof of principle. It seems like a lot of people in the audience want reduction to practice.
All of this back and forth reminds me of numbers juggling: when a person is working on a new skill, they distinguish between "Flashing" or "Qualifying" the pattern. To "flash" n objects, you need to toss and catch them once each, resulting in n consecutive catches. To "qualify," you need 2n consecutive tosses and catches. The former is proof of concept; the latter, repeatability. When people in the community talk about these records, they use this language to communicate what they've actually done.
It almost seems like it would reduce a bunch of agita if the shooting community were to develop or adopt similar language around these sorts of records. Then we can get back to arguing over important things - like Glock v 1911.
That sounds like a fun training exercise actually. More practical than already being set up at a bench with known distances.I think hitting something at that range is cool but I think two guys running out with an off-the-shelf rifle and spotting equipment and maybe a ballistic computer dingus bedding down and hitting a man torso sized steel target at a thousand yards in a short amount of time is actually a lot more useful and impressive..... actually that breeds the idea for a fun sort of competition basically you have teams of two guys and you have like a truck or some s*** where the rifle and all of the gear is stored and basically the buzzer goes off and you have to grab all the s*** bring it to the line set up and shoot and you get like 20 rounds and basically the composite score is hits versus time or something..... with a huge bonus if you connect twice in the first 3 shots.... of course some of this might be wholly unrealistic but it would actually be fun to watch. Set a budget limit for the guns and only allow commonly available bullet types reloads or commercial. If you had enough people with guns you might even be able to class out guns by caliber or something.
I mean you would pretty much know the distance but the firing line would just have a spot of grass or some s*** on it where guys would set up their mats and whatever and just shoot from there.... although if you had the facility for it you could actually have several different spots of varying ranges and the team would get randomly summoned to a particular position and basically once the vehicle reaches the setup point the timer starts....... if I won the Powerball I would set up a facility like that just to watch this happen.....That sounds like a fun training exercise actually. More practical than already being set up at a bench with known distances.
That would actually be fun.I think hitting something at that range is cool but I think two guys running out with an off-the-shelf rifle and spotting equipment and maybe a ballistic computer dingus bedding down and hitting a man torso sized steel target at a thousand yards in a short amount of time is actually a lot more useful and impressive..... actually that breeds the idea for a fun sort of competition basically you have teams of two guys and you have like a truck or some s*** where the rifle and all of the gear is stored and basically the buzzer goes off and you have to grab all the s*** bring it to the line set up and shoot and you get like 20 rounds and basically the composite score is hits versus time or something..... with a huge bonus if you connect twice in the first 3 shots.... of course some of this might be wholly unrealistic but it would actually be fun to watch. Set a budget limit for the guns and only allow commonly available bullet types reloads or commercial. If you had enough people with guns you might even be able to class out guns by caliber or something.
I would assume for the sake of not taking a weekend to run everyone through the course that the sights are already zeroed at 100.
That would actually be fun.
Are the rifles sighted and the scopes on the rifles or do they grab the scope, put it on the rifle, sight it st 100 yards then go for 1K yards?