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New Winter Road Pretreatment will destory your automobile!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by TC McQuade, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. Radtekk

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    Here’s the undercarriage of a 13 year old Subaru Outback with 232,000 miles and no special coating. And we drive it mostly on heavily salt-treated roads in MA and NH. Seems to be holding up just fine.

    According to this (out of date) article, Mass, Ohio, NH, and Wisconsin all apply up to 300 lbs per lane mile.
    http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/sr/sr235/017-030.pdf

    Salt Belt - Wikipedia

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    Dropride is his username. He did my truck and did a good job.
     
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  5. Mark from MA

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    I find most cars and SUV's hold up well....I've never had a problem with rust at all on those type of vehicles with a unibody type situation.

    Full frame real trucks and SUV's on the other hand.....not so much. Toyota's and 1/2 ton trucks have their issues, with frames, brakelines, cooler lines, oil pans, etc. Usually the 3/4 ton trucks are beefed up enough to hold up, but drive them long enough or they age and they too end up in the shxtpile.
     
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    Here's some more sad news: cars rust faster in a heated garage. Chemical reactions are accelerated by heat.
     
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    Has anybody had there undercarriage Rhinolined, a bit pricey but if it works its well worth it. Thinking of having it done on an extremely clean 08 chevy 2500
     
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    I wonder if that under coating works as well as the "Rusty Jones" treatment I has done on my 85 Jeep Renegade....:rolleyes:
     
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    Rusty Jones...LOL... I remember them when I worked at a dealership. What happened to them?
     
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    They brine the roads in the Carolinas also, but only when snow or severe cold is expected and also only do the major roads, so there will be a lot less than in the Northern States. Pretty sure Florida roads would be brine free, but if near the coasts, there is probably some salt in the air most of the time.
     
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    Yes. Some towns have dedicated tank trucks that go around and pretreat the roads. Like many say the lines in the road are the dead giveaway. We have tanks on our trucks that spray the offensive stuff onto the salt as it’s coming off the conveyor and into the spinner. The tanks always seem to break down so we end up spraying it directly onto each load with a hose as we are being loaded. The stuff smells and looks similar to molasses. I don’t trust it. It works but it gives me the heeby jeebies.
     
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    My 1998 F150 simply rusted out. First it was the body panels. Then the brake lines. I gave up on it when the rear shock mount rusted out one day and the bed dropped onto the leaf spring.

    I bought a 2016 F150 out of Texas. It hasn't seen a New England winter - and it's not going to.
     
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    It is a crap article. It minces words for the uninformed. Chemicals vs 'salt' vs brine. Sodium Chloride, Calcium Chloride, Magnesium Chloride and a slew of others are all salts. Dissolve any of them in water and you have a brine.
    When 'rock' salt is applied to the road and it starts the melting process a brine is produced. The differing chemical makeup of different salts result in the varied reactions with the metals used in automobiles.

    So, salt isn't a singular thing. It's a class of compounds. When you dissolve any of these in water you have brine. Brine is easier to control in application and allows for more effective pre-treatment as it won't be as easily displaced by traffic.

    If you see brine on the road and it has dried...it isn't brine. It's just salt...'rock' salt...very small rocks. <Anyone? Eh?...

    I think salting should be eliminated as it's bad for so many things. Sand and encourage people to use actual snow tires...not this 4 season garbage. 4 season tires are a compromise in all 4 seasons in my opinion.

    Every autumn I spritz the underside and cavities of my vehicles with 3M cavity wax or Fluid Film to keep corrosion at bay. Wheels get a light film of marine grease on the hub to prevent electrolysis and all fasteners get either anti-seize or Lock-Tite if removed.
     
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    Tits up years ago...Right about the time I was going to put in a claim for my rusted out jeep.:mad:
     
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    Wonder why?.........I joke
     
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    Droprides stuff as well as Fluid Film are not the same as the permanent coating like Rusty Jones and Ziebart used way back.

    There is another guy in NH I believe that uses thinned waste oil and diesel. It gets into every little crevice but god help you if you park on your driveway for a week after application.
     
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    OK THANKS
     
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    I have a subscription to a car wash, I just wash the damn thing every week.
     
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    with angry clueless housewives taking to facebook an hour after the storm and lambasting the head of town DPW, demanding resignations for the children, of course they DPW are going to mix molasses and corn syrup into the salt to make sure it sticks and roads are bare after 24" of snow.
     
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    Ok how much does it cost to put the NH oil stuff on a typical vehicle?
     
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    Send a message to Dropride if you are near Merrimack NH.
     
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    Go to Lowes pick up some rattle cans of Fluid Film, 4 cans should do a medium size SUV, 6 cans full size pickup truck. Or order it from Amazon and do it yourself when fall comes around.
     
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    I've been using fluid film now for about 5 years and it does a decent job . I used to undercoat once a year but now I do every spring as soon as I can rinse off the underside with clean water . I then recoat late fall . Maybe overkill but so far on a 2013 wrangler I'm not seeing any rust . I'm using the fluid film in spray cans I get at Nappa auto parts . Costs me alittle over 80 bucks a treatment but with the price to replace the jeep or body work I figure its money well spent .
     
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    Turns out "Hello Rusty Jones, Goodbye rusty car" tagline really meant that you were going to have to scrap the car anyhow. ;)
     
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    It may help, but for a truck frames that you want to last 20 years....probably not unless your getting a really good undercarraige spray, and as most say, they recycle car wash water to some extent.
     
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    Fluid Film appears to be a great product I'm going to have to try it out!

    Someone did a comparison test below is the results.

    Fluid Film Real World Test: Michigan Winter vs Truck Frame


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    More good stuff.

    Fluid Film Car Applications

    How To Fluid Film Your Vehicle To Prevent Rust
     
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