NEW S&W M&P FPC FOLDING CARBINE

[Retired-LEO]

It looks very interesting!

LINK TO THE CARBINE ON THE S&W SITE $659 LIST

@ $659 list its not overly priced.

I have always liked the sub2000, but it has issues with the plastic "trigger group" and the way it folded... made red dots a pain in the a$$

Additionally it's about a pound lighter and costs less that the Ruger PC Carbine Backpacker (based on both list prices).

**Update** Even though I found the S&W FPC interesting. I ended up getting the RUGER PC Carbine w/Magpul Backpacker Stock

 

[Rate_of_Twist]

Beat me to it - gross

 

[jkelly1229]

Does it need to look like it has down syndrome for a reason

 

[Mattrondo]

Still not as bad as the m&p 12 guage

 

[Mattrondo]

Although I haven't shot one myself, just can't stand looking at it

 

[LuvToGoFast]

Laughs in KelTec

 

[cjmass]

They must have hired Ruger's pistol engineers to design the esthetics!

 

[whatluck]

i bet it works well and is reliable. i bet you ma**h***s are just mad that you can't have one without crippled mags. I personally like when they have the shoulder thing that goes up instead of to the side.

 

[Sparky123]

It looks very interesting!

LINK TO THE CARBINE ON THE S&W SITE $659 LIST

@ $659 list its not overly priced.

I have always liked the sub2000, but it has issues with the plastic "trigger group" and the way it folded... made red dots a pain in the a$$

Additionally it's about a pound lighter and -$270 less that the Ruger PC Carbine Backpacker (based on both list prices).

It reminds me of the Kel Tec sub-2000, but I'm fairly certain that the quality will be better.

 

[67ray]

Says the NESer with a Hi-point

 

[Waher]

It's like S&W is now hiring the designers Ruger fired for copying Kel-Tec designs crudely with a grease pencil.

Is it really that hard to come up with aesthetically pleasing designs? Magpul seems to get it right and even Ruger has a 50/50 shot these days.

 

[xtry51]

If it doesn't use Glock mags it's a hard pass for me. Also that thing is fugly. When Keltec is out classing you in looks, you've done something wrong.

 

[Mesatchornug]

It's like S&W is now hiring the designers Ruger fired for copying Kel-Tec designs crudely with a grease pencil.

Is it really that hard to come up with aesthetically pleasing designs? Magpul seems to get it right and even Ruger has a 50/50 shot these days.

I feel like I should grab a couple colleagues and just specialize in helping them solve that one problem.

"Listen, we've been doing consumer products for decades. If you make the insides work, we'll skin them into something people want to own."

 

[whatluck]

I feel like I should grab a couple colleagues and just specialize in helping them solve that one problem.

"Listen, we've been doing consumer products for decades. If you make the insides work, we'll skin them into something people want to own."

I'm sure Magpul has already tried this and been laughed out of the building. Smith is like the Kia of firearm manufacturers. Ugly AF but you buy one and you're stuck with it for years because nobody wants to buy it from you and it stubbornly won't stop working.

 

[safetyfirst2125]

But it fits in her purse. Get it for your wife.

 

[whatluck]

They should make this in 9" and with a pistol brace

 

[Waher]

They must have hired Ruger's pistol engineers to design the esthetics!

BYLAT!

 

[Mesatchornug]

I'm sure Magpul has already tried this and been laughed out of the building. Smith is like the Kia of firearm manufacturers. Ugly AF but you buy one and you're stuck with it for years because nobody wants to buy it from you and it stubbornly won't stop working.

Fair. That's kind of their niche, right? Worst of all, it would be even easier for them to simply strike up a partnership and never have to design the furniture again...here are your standardized mounting geometry and keep-outs; let's chat in a month.

 

[whatluck]

Fair. That's kind of their niche, right? Worst of all, it would be even easier for them to simply strike up a partnership and never have to design the furniture again...here are your standardized mounting geometry and keep-outs; let's chat in a month.

1 month later:

can you make it.....uglier?

 

[Billy2]

Make it in 10mm!

 

[PappyM3]

Looking at it from tip to butt, I’m thinking:

“Okay, pretty standard, decent looking handguard, hinge mechanism isn’t bad, side folding is bulkier but at least I can leave an optic on it, grip is great; I love M&P grips, sucks I have to use crippled mags but that’s MA, …… buffer tube? What?… wait…. What’s that stock? Holy crap… that’s actually the design? “

In MA, I’m just not seeing this being better than the takedown version of the PC Carbine. Aside from the fact that this isn’t a Ruger.

 

[tuna]

Bloody blue blazes of bullshit.

Why do all the PCCs need to look like we’re defending the motherland in the last days?

At least Henry is doing it right.
Has no one else in the gun manufacturing industry listened to everyone ask for a rerun of the Camp 9? How difficult is it to enlarge a Model 60 or 10/22?

This sucks donkey nuts.

 

[And7]

This would probably save me the money and effort of upgrading a sub2k with m-carbo parts, making it cheaper in the end

 

[PappyM3]

Bloody blue blazes of bullshit.

Why do all the PCCs need to look like we’re defending the motherland in the last days?

At least Henry is doing it right.
Has no one else in the gun manufacturing industry listened to everyone ask for a rerun of the Camp 9? How difficult is it to enlarge a Model 60 or 10/22?

This sucks donkey nuts.

Ruger/Magpul got the takedown model of the PC Carbine right, I’d say. I just wish they had a 10mm version.

 

[Mesatchornug]

Ruger/Magpul got the takedown model of the PC Carbine right, I’d say. I just wish they had a 10mm version.

100% agreed. I'd buy that in 10mm in a second.

I even like the PPSh-looking version with the MLOK forend and more traditional stock.

As far as I can tell, it really is a scaled up 10-22.

 

[tuna]

Would it kill them yo offer it in a non takedown in a freaking bitch stock? I feel like this isn’t a difficult request.

 

[Waher]

Magpul did a good job with Ruger's PCC. I wish S&W would consult with them. Would be nice for Magpul to come up with some Mini-14 stocks & magazines as well.

 

[mrmike7189]

way better tan that ugly kel tec copy

 

[cams]

BYLAT!

Is that a 9mm take down with a custom fitted wood stock?

 

[T-Unit]

It reminds me of the Kel Tec sub-2000, but I'm fairly certain that the quality will be better.

The Sub 2000 has been around for over 20 years. It's not a quality issue with them, it's a refinement issue.

I'm not going to jizz it to the FPC over the Sub 2000 simply because it's got the S&W in the side. If anything, I trust copies of smaller companies product from a large corporation less.