I think this is 100% spot on.
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New Office of Gun Safety Enforcement
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HARRYM
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It is.
Wow.
Cops can't f-ing get regular training, I hope the state intends to pay for this "regular training"
This is why they made that database public boys.
Cops can't f-ing get regular training, I hope the state intends to pay for this "regular training"
HARRYM
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It's a national thing as well. Every other word out of their mouths is White Supremacy. They are using it as their bully pulpit to silence those who are in their way and to intimidate anyone who crosses them.
Below is her election website. These are the things she said she would prioritize and she’s doing that. Everyone keeps saying that the new governor is going to be too busy with other things to go after guns when it was literally one of the planks in HER election platform, too.
Cue the doubters who say that this is “pantsh*tting” and SCOTUS will save everyone.
On the Issues - Andrea Campbell
www.andreacampbell.org
I'm not about to minimize Campbell. I understand what she'd LIKE to do.
But.
Politicians would LIKE to do a whole bunch of things that they don't end up doing. I am with those who doubt Campbell's intellect and guile, compared to Maura (who is, unfortunately, both intelligent and clever). Healy thought outside the box, hence her edict. Which worked as well as it possibly could have.
Campbell is not on that level. She is a hammer, not a scalpel. In the post-Bruen judicial environment, I'm not sure she has the flexibility to out-think Bruen. If her angle is "going after hoarders," she'll need to carefully craft policies that will survive scrutiny. Maybe she can do that, maybe not.
Time will tell.
Good assessment
snowballs
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FIFY
There is plenty in her statements that needs to be challenged, but I don't like this example.
First, a law will not say it's not for white people, it'll be applied to everyone, her reasons won't be in the law.
Second, this is just for a charge of possession, doesn't say anything about conviction. And such a charge, followed by a CWOF and/or dismissal is currently a guaranteed suitability denial. And like any other non-conviction, it should not be. This is a step in the right direction to making suitability a thing of the past. The idea that a person gets jammed up and charged, with a non-violent offence, is considered not guilty, even 10 years of clean living later, is still prohibited from getting an LTC is ridiculous.
We need to pick our battles, let her feel like she is doing something with this one while stopping the BS.
She wants to put annual and lifetime limits on firearms. What happens if you're already over the lifetime limit?Below is her election website. These are the things she said she would prioritize and she’s doing that. Everyone keeps saying that the new governor is going to be too busy with other things to go after guns when it was literally one of the planks in HER election platform, too.
Cue the doubters who say that this is “pantsh*tting” and SCOTUS will save everyone.
On the Issues - Andrea Campbell
Healy's edict was legally BS, and she knew that, but she thought it was good politics. When it resulted in a sustained and vocal backlash from gun owners, she more or less left us alone for the rest of her time in office. The political juice wasn't worth the squeeze and she was smart enough to know that.
Healy strikes me as a traditional pol that wants to be broadly liked. She wants to be Charlie Baker. She may be smart enough to not bash her head against the wall in attacking gun owners with laws that will just get struck down in court.
There is a lot less risk to us in someone like that than in an ideologue like Campbell who is both dumber and more ideologically driven. I suspect she will be willing to bash her head against the wall continuously even if it grinds down her approval rating. People like that don't care about being broadly liked, they are fine with winning elections with 50.00001%. That scares me, but at least she's not in the governor's office. Unlike the governor, the AG has little actual power on guns.
The other thing I'm curious about involves the relationship between their two offices. We know Baker was too much of a bitch to rein in Maura; he couldn't go as far as we would have wanted him to, but he chose not to go as far as he could have. I think he didn't want the fight.
I want to believe Maura will be more forceful with Campbell, in terms of letting her know that the Governor's office does not want the state to get dragged into court for losing battles.
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It is funny that you should mention that.
Years ago, when this "permit issue" came up, we were living in N. Chelmsford. I went and spoke with the Fire Department, they didn't have a clue about this reg, or what the storage area specifications were. They told me to build it and they would inspect it. As you can assume, I never built it and never got the permit.
Sparky123
NES Member
What do gun laws have to do with crime? To those in public office and the ignorant people that vote for them, we're the criminals. In this state, the spotlight has always been on legal gun owners and not on criminals. There is no crime in licensed gun owners buying as many guns as they want, or stockpiling ammo, that is until Massachusetts makes it a crime.
I got you...
Would be interesting if I could transition from my current state job to this "Office of Gun Safety". Assuming the pay is the same and I don't have to commute to Boston
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But I'm sure they already have moonbats lined up for the positions
Rockrivr1
NES Member
As other have said stating what’s she wants to do and actually getting funding to do what she wants to do are two entirely different things.
She’s going to have a lot of current issues to deal with first before she gets anywhere near this.
She’s going to have a lot of current issues to deal with first before she gets anywhere near this.
allen-1
NES Member
Load your own. I realize that’s not practical for everyone but it’s worth considering
But once people make them aware, I am sure they follow a procedure. For example, are they required to file the permit with the State?
While fire departments are not aware it exists, people that want to feel "safe" do their best to educate them, now they are screwed.
Look at it as an LTC change of address. A brand new gun owner probably has no clue how it works or bothers to read about it. 3 years later that person moves, reads about it, learns he/she has to send notifications so he/she sends the 3 notifications as required.
HorizontalHunter
NES Member
After they serve their mandatory one year in jail under Bartley-Fox. (/s just in case anyone’s sarcasm meter is out of service)
scott-o
NES Member
Expungement thing is interesting...
Considering my understanding is that MA has no true expungement. That's a major lift. Sound like political aspiration that will likely never be reached but sounds good to snatch up votes.
Considering my understanding is that MA has no true expungement. That's a major lift. Sound like political aspiration that will likely never be reached but sounds good to snatch up votes.
If Beacon Hill goes after mail order ammo they will go after home loading/reloading as well. Power hungry commies could care less about the interstate commerce clause and home loading/reloading/gunsmithing being part of the 2A since the founding of the country.
It would be helpful if post Bruen, MA incurred some significant legal costs so that the legislature decided posturing without actually doing something was a less costly exercise.
allen-1
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<SIGH>
