New Hampshire for the win

MassPete said:
I love NH. Don’t get me wrong. I just don’t understand the way their residents vote. This is a huge election. You don’t have to like Trump. Not many people do. But they like his policies. If I hired a divorce attorney, I would not care if I liked him or not. I would want him to be an a**h***. I just want the best person for the job. How New Hampshire continues to vote blue is beyond me.
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Because in NH, independents decide most outcomes and people don’t vote entirely along party lines.
 
Kevin_NH said:
We did get HB 1178 . . Beyond that, those "2A Sanctuary" bills are just wishful thinking and political posturing, won't stand up against a court challenge.


What we've achieved in the past 20 years:
  • 2003 - HB415 statewide firearms law preemption signed by Governor Craig Benson
  • 2004 - HB 1309 Range protection amendment to RSA 158-B
  • 2010 - Governor John Lynch signs the Knife law preemption act, HB1665
  • 2011 - SB88 Expands Castle Doctrine (Veto Override)
  • 2012 - HB1551 Landowner Liability protection
  • 2013 - Court case NH v Dor (Definition of "loaded")
  • 2015 - Resident P&R reciprocity allows concealed carry in 25 states
  • 2016 - Non-resident CHL rules overturned
  • 2016 - HB500 Suppressor Hunting enacted
  • 2017 - Governor Sununu signs constitutional carry bill SB12
  • 2018 - SB500 clarifies rules regarding loaded long arms on motor vehicle, adds recognition of airgun and crossbow hunting, defines "Firearm" and "loaded".
  • 2021 - HB195 "Displaying a firearm shall not constitute reckless conduct" amends §631:3V
  • 2022 - HB 1178 passes, barring state or local LE from enforcing federal firearms statutes and rules
  • 2023 - Reciprocity expands to 28 states.
  • 2024 - HB1186 "firearm purchaser's privacy" adds RSA §159-F:1 forbidding Code 5723
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Just need to get F&G to follow the constitution.
 
FalArAk said:
That is kinda funny, if anything NH has become MORE gun friendly in the past 20 years since the invasion of people from MA.
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It's because the people from mass who we get are mostly seeking asylum. At least where I am, it's literally been a thing lately where a house sells and a week later the Trump sign goes up. Our Democrats are home grown unfortunately.
 
pastera said:
Voting blue federally might be seen as a way to bring more pork spending home while going red locally keeps property tax down.
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That I think is real. A factor in keeping Democrats out is the fear of income tax.

In the country NH has the 3rd highest number of millionaires per capita - not that it means much now to be a millionaire but essentially we have a large number of people who are better off on average, who don't have state income taxes & have a lot to lose if we did.
 
There is indeed a blueish wall in the northeast, but NH, Maine, and Vermont are a whole lot different than MA, CT, and RI.

Vermont is really the only one with any hampering gun laws, the magazine ban they passed a few years ago, pistols 15 & rifles 10 - which was done in the most toothless manner (ie go buy your magazines elsewhere, there's no way for LE to look at a magazine and know).

I do think NH, any of these places could fall. But we got a long way to fall before becoming MA - there's a stronghold of gun owners in all these places, even though it includes wierd sects of gun owning hippies.
 
I love shooting a supressed PCC in the backyard and no one blinks where I am. My FFL laughs a lot when I talk about my escape from MA. He let me know that most of his customers kind of binge on all the stuff they couldn't have when they lived in MA. Lots of gun stores love MA escapees as they don't might splurging half a years salary on guns when the get here.
 
Kevin_NH said:
Going off of the Ammo.com criteria, ranking NH #1 makes sense. There are some areas we can still improve, I'd love to see us offer NICS-Exempt carry licenses.
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YES! The #1 reason why I'm moving back to AZ when I retire. The #2 reason being no snow/excessive rain.
teamRR said:
This new voter ID thing may help. I don't understand the depth of it but I think it probably makes it harder to pop up and vote as a student with an out of state ID.
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Sadly, it doesn't take effect until after this election.
teamRR said:
I'm in plaistow, which has a 1 mile strip with basically everything from grocery stores to Walmart, auto parts, restaurants & bars, gun shops, dealerships, dentists, doctors, urgent care, etc. When I was in Kingston, next town over, everything felt "far" :)
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The bad thing about Plaistow is that you are in a danger zone. Even with a non-res LTC, it's too easy to cross into MA (while carrying standard-cap magazines). The first time it happened, there were no signs I was in MA. I only figured it out because there was a bank there that I knew was not in NH.
drgrant said:
This is literally the same drivel that we've seen posted for over a decade here. 🤣

"2 more weeks till nh becomes communist" 🤣
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Wait until after this Tuesday. I've never had such an influx of out-of-staters getting licenses/ID's. The first words out of their mouths upon receiving a paper temporary ID is "can I use this for voting?" Most are blatently anti-republican (hint: the lady wearing a t-shirt with "Childless Cat Lady" on it).
teamRR said:
There is indeed a blueish wall in the northeast, but NH, Maine, and Vermont are a whole lot different than MA, CT, and RI.

Vermont is really the only one with any hampering gun laws, the magazine ban they passed a few years ago, pistols 15 & rifles 10 - which was done in the most toothless manner (ie go buy your magazines elsewhere, there's no way for LE to look at a magazine and know).

I do think NH, any of these places could fall. But we got a long way to fall before becoming MA - there's a stronghold of gun owners in all these places, even though it includes wierd sects of gun owning hippies.
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VT and MA are getting at least as bad, if not worse than, MA. MA doesn't have waiting periods and UBC's (yet), which I think are worse than a 10rd limit on magazines (I don't agree with that - but the delay in purchasing something is worse, IMHO).

People don't like Trump, but the abortion issue is what I think the biggest nail in the coffin for Republicans.
 
MassPete said:
I love NH. Don’t get me wrong. I just don’t understand the way their residents vote. This is a huge election. You don’t have to like Trump. Not many people do. But they like his policies. If I hired a divorce attorney, I would not care if I liked him or not. I would want him to be an a**h***. I just want the best person for the job. How New Hampshire continues to vote blue is beyond me.
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‘Vote with your heart’.
 
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teamRR said:
It's because the people from mass who we get are mostly seeking asylum. At least where I am, it's literally been a thing lately where a house sells and a week later the Trump sign goes up. Our Democrats are home grown unfortunately.
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Garys said:
Another person looking to blame the state to the south all the while ignoring the teachers and librarians who are in frequent contact with their kids. Of all of the people from MA whom I know that moved north one couple are liberals. Their kids are both grown and moved out of state. People I worked with in MA for years moved north for the same reasons my wife and I went to Texas. None of them are Democrats, not one.

Keep blaming Ma**h***s while your kids are being indoctrinated by people who went to the same schools as teachers in MA, NY, and CA .
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You misread what he wrote.
 
Qwikdraw45 said:
YES! The #1 reason why I'm moving back to AZ when I retire. The #2 reason being no snow/excessive rain.

Sadly, it doesn't take effect until after this election.

The bad thing about Plaistow is that you are in a danger zone. Even with a non-res LTC, it's too easy to cross into MA (while carrying standard-cap magazines). The first time it happened, there were no signs I was in MA. I only figured it out because there was a bank there that I knew was not in NH.

Wait until after this Tuesday. I've never had such an influx of out-of-staters getting licenses/ID's. The first words out of their mouths upon receiving a paper temporary ID is "can I use this for voting?" Most are blatently anti-republican (hint: the lady wearing a t-shirt with "Childless Cat Lady" on it).

VT and MA are getting at least as bad, if not worse than, MA. MA doesn't have waiting periods and UBC's (yet), which I think are worse than a 10rd limit on magazines (I don't agree with that - but the delay in purchasing something is worse, IMHO).

People don't like Trump, but the abortion issue is what I think the biggest nail in the coffin for Republicans.
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It is impossible to carry here without being real careful. True. If I go to Portsmouth, Nashua, Maine, fastest way is through MA.

But Maine and VT aren't even close to MA restriction wise. Both places you essentially can own anything - go buy a new AR, or NFA items, whatever. And neither requires a permit to carry as far as I know. A waiting period and the style of mag ban VT has do not even come close to MA laws. If I was next door to Maine & Vermont, what you mentioned about carrying would be a total non issue for instance.
 
teamRR said:
It is impossible to carry here without being real careful. True. If I go to Portsmouth, Nashua, Maine, fastest way is through MA.
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Good news -- the new MA law, H4885, adds an exemption for non-residents transiting MA.
Qwikdraw45 said:
VT and MA are getting at least as bad, if not worse than, MA. MA doesn't have waiting periods and UBC's (yet), which I think are worse than a 10rd limit on magazines (I don't agree with that - but the delay in purchasing something is worse, IMHO).
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Doesn't MA effectively have UBC and a 10-round limit? How is the 6-12 week delay to get your FID/LTC initially that much better than a shorter per-purchase waiting period?

Getting back to the original topic, none of those states made it into the rankings at all.
 
Kevin_NH said:
Good news -- the new MA law, H4885, adds an exemption for non-residents transiting MA.

Doesn't MA effectively have UBC and a 10-round limit? How is the 6-12 week delay to get your FID/LTC initially that much better than a shorter per-purchase waiting period?

Getting back to the original topic, none of those states made it into the rankings at all.
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So by them, NH is #1 for gun owners (just to sum it up for the next guy :) )..

Yes MA officially supports FOPA now, but that doesn't help if say my Glock 19 w/ native mag size is sitting on the passenger seat or on my person as I drive. Effectively I'd catch 2 charges at least. It does make it clear I can lock it up and not be persecuted, which is good, though that was always the case technically provided the cop honors federal law.

As far as people from MA bringing NH, Maine, Vermont, laws into question. I think it boils down to they are so used to dealing with MA laws they forget the extent of the infringement. In these states if you want a gun you just buy one (no permit or card needed) & anything federally legal is legal, and you go carry it as you see fit - very very few exceptions exist to that. You can't even buy a single shot shotgun in MA, or own one for that matter, until the government says it's ok, same for ammo as well - starts there and just gets worse.
 
teamRR said:
Yes MA officially supports FOPA now, but that doesn't help if say my Glock 19 w/ native mag size is sitting on the passenger seat or on my person as I drive. Effectively I'd catch 2 charges at least. It does make it clear I can lock it up and not be persecuted, which is good, though that was always the case technically provided the cop honors federal law.
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Goes well beyond FOPA, now passing through Mass is about on par with what Illinois did several years ago, specifically the new phrasing in Chapter 135 §44:129B (k):
"A nonresident may carry a firearm on their person while in a vehicle lawfully traveling through the commonwealth;"​

teamRR said:
In the country NH has the 3rd highest number of millionaires per capita - not that it means much now to be a millionaire but essentially we have a large number of people who are better off on average, who don't have state income taxes & have a lot to lose if we did.
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Own a house, a couple cars, and a few transferable Pre'86 machine guns?

You might be a redneck New Hampshire millionaire.
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