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International Herald Tribune
Gun regulation makes comeback in U.S.
By Jennifer Steinhauer
Tuesday, April 15, 2008

State lawmakers across the United States are ramping up efforts to pass new restrictions on guns, following nearly a decade in which state legislative efforts have been dominated by gun advocates.

Much of the proposed legislation - some 38 states are considering gun-related bills - focuses on cutting off gun access to convicted criminals and the mentally ill and on improving methods to trace guns used in crimes.

Underlying many of the efforts is an attempt to redefine the gun debate as a law enforcement issue, rather than one that focuses on broad-based gun ownership, to sidestep prickly Second Amendment concerns.

"The key thing is that we want to protect Second Amendment rights," said Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger of California, a Republican who has supported several bills that focus on guns used in crimes but not bills that would curtail ownership rights. "Democrats and Republicans can work together on this."

The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a prominent anti-gun group, has identified 52 bills it considers a priority for passage in 22 states, compared with 30 such bills two years ago.

"For years we were chasing the NRA's tail," Brian Malte, the group's state legislation and politics director, said of the National Rifle Association. "But now we feel they are chasing our priorities."

Still, the new efforts come as organizations like the NRA, the country's biggest gun advocacy group, continue to wield tremendous influence in state capitals and are pushing aggressively for laws of their own.

Several legislatures are contemplating bills that would increase access to guns, including proposals to allow guns on college campuses or in the parking lots of workplaces.

The NRA is tracking 208 pieces of gun-related legislation in 38 states, both proposed restrictions it opposes and other bills it supports, the highest number since the gun group began monitoring state laws in 2001.

Wayne LaPierre, chief executive officer of the NRA, said that "there has been a brick-by-brick restoration of the Second Amendment" over the past 10 years or so at the state level and that his organization continued to build upon it.

"It is one of the most uncovered, fundamental sea changes in American politics," LaPierre said.

The catalysts for the latest round of legislation include a spate of high-profile gun crimes - at shopping malls, schools and universities and the streets of several large cities - and a new federal law that gives financial rewards to states that better share information about mentally ill gun purchasers.

The spike in lawmaking activity also comes against the background of a case before the Supreme Court that challenges the constitutionality of a ban on the private possession of handguns in the District of Columbia. Legal and gun experts said a ruling against the ban was likely to stymie additional efforts to limit rights on gun ownership - and could even embolden advocates of fewer restrictions - but might leave undeterred the pursuit of laws focused on illegal guns.

Lawmakers also credit the relatively new Mayors Against Illegal Guns, championed by Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York, which has more than 300 members across party lines, and its counterpart among state legislators, which has worked aggressively to remove guns from the hands of criminals.

Seven states are considering bills that would require microscopic imprints on ammunition - following a pioneering bill that became law in California last year - that would help forensic experts identify the provenance of guns used in crimes.

Nearly a dozen states are considering forcing gun owners to report their weapons stolen or lost. New Jersey has already passed such a law, and others are mulling criminal background checks on ammunition purchasers, and efforts to keep people with a criminal record from getting others to do their gun purchasing for them.

Earlier this year, President George W. Bush signed a law that authorized the use of federal funds by states to maintain and update the criminal history and mental health records in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. As such, many state legislatures are trying to close loopholes that have allowed those with a history of mental illness to obtain guns.

More than a dozen states have signed or are debating bills that would compel states to upload mental health records to the National Instant Check System. West Virginia's governor recently signed a law requiring the state to upload disqualifying mental health records to the system.

Bills that focus on keeping guns out of the hands of those found mentally impaired or criminals "have more of a bipartisan support," said Dan Brady, a Republican state lawmaker in Illinois, where nearly a dozen gun bills have hit the Statehouse this year. Brady said that he had voted for such a bill this year.

"When you have pieces of legislation that start to erode the law-abiding citizens' right to own firearms, you begin to have the debate about bounds," Brady said.

Debates about the proposed gun laws are taking place in many states not between party members, but rather between residents in rural areas and those who reside in crime-ridden cities. For some states, momentum on any bill that regulates guns even on the margins is considered unusual.

For instance, last week in Pennsylvania lawmakers debated a bill that would have compelled gun owners to immediately report a lost or stolen gun to law enforcement officials. The bill was defeated, but it was the first time that the state, whose Constitution articulates support for individual gun ownership well beyond the federal doctrine, had taken up a significant gun regulation bill in roughly 15 years.

"There are many people who believed that we would never discuss handgun legislation in this building, let alone have a vote," said Johnna Pro, the spokeswoman for Dwight Evans, a Democrat in the Pennsylvania Statehouse, who was behind the bill.

The bill came to the floor only after the state's legislative black caucus pulled a parliamentary measure impeding budget votes, and it became one of the outgrowths of a resulting special session on crime.

"This bill was a defining moment," said Kate Harper, a Republican lawmaker from the suburbs of Philadelphia who voted for the bill even though many of her colleagues were unhappy with her, she said.

"These are difficult votes for me because it hurts me with my caucus and it also hurts with really strong Republican voters who don't want government interference," Harper said. "On the other hand, I've got soccer moms and people who have never fired a gun and are afraid of them."
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Let's see exactly what the bills are.

Sure, 52 bills, how many are more restrictive, how many less?

How many deal with mental health issues?

Remember, the Brady Bunch will lie through their teeth to look good, and distorting information comes easy to them. So, discount most of what they say.
 
"On the other hand, I've got soccer moms and people who have never fired a gun and are afraid of them."
I've got big-city friends who are afraid to drive a tractor. Let's ban tractors!
 
This is more spin prior to the Heller decision. 38 states suddenly want more laws on the books, what about the number of states that stood on the line and filed amici curiae on behalf of the Heller decision?

Of the 52 bills I would wager 3 of them would actually address possession nullification for felons and other persons of dubious mental health. The rest would just curtail your rights with backdoor policies like microstamping, magazine limits, suspended in 5th grade = no FID laws, no lead shot in shotgun shells...the list goes on and on.

"The key thing is that we want to protect Second Amendment rights," said Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger of California, a Republican who has supported several bills that focus on guns used in crimes but not bills that would curtail ownership rights.

Thats rich.
 
The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a prominent anti-gun group, has identified 52 bills it considers a priority for passage in 22 states, compared with 30 such bills two years ago.

And Mr. Obama wonders why "people get bitter and cling to guns and religion"???..........They are the only two things that the f***ing government hasn't completely stripped the American public of.......YET!!!!...........but God knows they're trying their damnedest to do so.

Anyone who can look you in the eye and say with a straight face that their isn't a widespread agenda on all levels, local, state and federal to completely ban guns in this country is not only a liar, but they have more than one screw loose. Once they ban guns, religion will follow shortly thereafter. We are reliving the 16-17-1800s all over again.

"On the other hand, I've got soccer moms and people who have never fired a gun and are afraid of them."

I don't give a rat's ASS what your touchy, feely soccermoms think about guns and I'm not responsible for their psychotic delusional mental state. Nobody is forcing them to own a gun and the likelyhood of them ever coming in contact with one in their elitist gated communities in which they live is slim to none.
 
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They can keep throwing these bills up there like they do the bans on everthing from transfats to bullies at school. The largest part of them don't stick because they are just plain dumb!
 
Spin, spin, and more spin. They'll try, but the tide seems to be against them. More and more states are passing CCW, "Castle Doctrine", and no confiscation laws. The Brady Bunch don't care because anti gun legislators are interchangeable to them. The politicians care because they still remember what happened in 1994. Despite the Democrat spin, the election in 2006 turned out the way it was because a lot of voters thought that their Republican politicians were not conservative enough. Pelosi is learning the the "Blue Dog Democrats" aren't on her side.

Kate Harper is likely to find out how unhappy her constituents are with her come the next election.

Gary
 
Anyone who can look you in the eye and say with a straight face that their isn't a widespread agenda on all levels, local, state and federal to completely ban guns in this country is not only a liar, but they have more than one screw loose.

The current priority is on state laws, as they haven't gotten anything significant through the Federal process in a LONG time (1994 is the year, IIRC).

They aren't doing so hot on a state level, either.

And it isn't as widespread as they want you to think it is.

Remember, they claimed the oral arguments in the DC vs Heller case went well for them. Yeah, right, I took the time to read those arguments. The SCOTUS Justices had DC's attorney for lunch (as the main course). DC has a snowballs chance in hell of keeping their ban. Even Ginsburg had a bite on him. And she's one of the more liberal Justices. (She also sees the 2A as an individual right, BTW.)

Pay little attention to what Brady SAYS, and more to what they DO.

I've yet to hear what those 52 bills are. Could be a bill in each state to prohibit convicted felons from owning firearms, or some other useless, redundant garbage. We won't know until we see what the bills are, will we?
 
The politicians care because they still remember what happened in 1994. Despite the Democrat spin, the election in 2006 turned out the way it was because a lot of voters thought that their Republican politicians were not conservative enough. Pelosi is learning the the "Blue Dog Democrats" aren't on her side.

Kate Harper is likely to find out how unhappy her constituents are with her come the next election.

Gary

100% right on both counts. Spinn all they want, they KNOW why they're in, and I see them going OUT again. The Dems have gotten less traction on what the public wants than the Republicans did before they got ousted.
 
100% right on both counts. Spinn all they want, they KNOW why they're in, and I see them going OUT again. The Dems have gotten less traction on what the public wants than the Republicans did before they got ousted.

The next time a liberal reminds you how unpopular is, remind that that the Democrat controlled Congress has much lower approval numbers than he does!

Gary
 
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