New gun laws coming to Los Angeles

So make .499999999 ammo.


correct me if I'm wrong but depending on how the law is worded, they could make a .480 or like you said .499999 and still have it be the size of what a .50 would be.

I remember a friend of mine and I were talking around Thanksgiving about this and he said one of the major manufacturers did this.
 
I thought .50 cal ammo was already banned in CA? Or was that .50 BMG rifles?

A couple years ago, they banned the sale of new .50 cal rifles only. They are registered "assault weapons". Which is now the umbrella term for any banned long gun. Thousands of people own 50 BMG rifles. Please note, this only applies to 50 BMG, not other .50 caliber weapons.

LA is doing something very different, and going beyond the CA ban of new sales of 50 BMG rifles, and banning all .50 caliber ammo of any type.
 
"Illegal firearms must be public enemy #1"

How can an immobile non-living object be an enemy? They must figure, "Heck we can't control criminals all that well lets try controlling objects. They can't get away from us. Muahahaha!"
 
First they came for the .50 caliber rifles...But I was not an owner of such a rifle and did not speak up.

Next they came for the....
 
I'm not surprised that they are banning the .50 BMG. Didn't you know that it can take a 747 down with a single shot and at over 2 miles up? [thinking]

Myth 1: The .50 will rip skin off with a near miss.

Fact: The only way a bullet will ever hurt you is by hitting you. The lack of destructive shockwave is clearly evideny when shooting paper targets. The holes in the paper are caliber sized and no additional damage to the target is seen.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:-VhkUe_PlUjmjM:http...mg/asrul50st100a.JPG
(note clean target holes)

If shockwave effect existed for the .50 it should exist for all other bullets traveling at the same speed. Note that 30-06 and .50 BMG have similar muzzle velocities difference in bullet diamter is less than .2".

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:XwScgrafjAj4EM:http...0408%2520Cheytac.JPG

Myth 2: .50 can blow people apart.

Fact: Although the .50 can cause horrific wounds it can not blow a grown man in half.

Here is picture of the wound channel in gelatin for a .50 BMG .750gr A-Max.
http://www.brassfetcher.com/images/50blka.jpg

Note maximum diameter of temporary cavity is ~7.5" occuring at a depth of 8". This occurs as the bullet begins to yaw.

Here is a picture of various .308 loads using the Hornady A-Max bullets.

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/docgkr/myhomepage/308_TAP_comparison.jpg

Note that temporary cavity diameter is nearly identical, but occuring at a much shallower depth. The .308 A-Max bullets expand and fragment.

Note that the permanent cavity created by the .50 is fairly small early in the wound track. If the .50 passes through a limb without yawing or hitting bone the effect should be similar to a 1/2" icepick wound. However if the round strikes the torso of a thick chested individual it may begin to yaw within the body and produce a large temporary cavity near the end of the wound track. This would result in a massive exit wound and is likely the basis for the myth of people being blown in half.

Myth 3: The .50 can penetrate bank vaults.

Fact: Even .50 AP can only penetrate 1" of rolled armor. As far as concrete goes.

Number of rounds needed to penetrate a reinforced concrete wall at 25° obliquity. Wall Thickness 109 yd (100 m) Range 219 yd (200 m) Range
2 ft (0.6 m) 300 rounds 1,200 rounds
3 ft (0.9 m) 450 rounds 1,800 rounds
4 ft (1.2 m) 600 rounds 2,400 rounds

In other words in order to penetrate a bank vault we need thousands of rounds of ammunition and an alternate method to cut through the rebar.

Also see:
http://democrats.reform.house.gov/features/fifty_caliber/guns_marine_video.rm

Myth: the .50 is magical

Fact: .50 is an excelent tool just like any other.
 
I thought .50 cal ammo was already banned in CA? Or was that .50 BMG rifles?

There was a cutoff date for purchase of NEW .50 BMG rifles. If you already had one before that date, you could keep it, but it had to be registered with the state.
I went to a gun show in Phoenix back in 04' and learned about this from some of the 50 cal guys I met. They showed me what they had come up with to get around the then new California law; The 510 DTC Europ.

http://www.edmarms.com/products/510dtc.htm

Ballistically it's nearly identical to the .50 BMG, but it was just different enough to be CA legal, because the law banned the 50 BMG specifically. This is NOT a 50 BMG, but nobody downrange will ever notice the difference.
 
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