New Executive Orders on Guns looming...

Gun bill pulled.

This thing is dead in the water. There is nothing they'll be able to agree on moving forward.
 
It's like the kid that just got his ass kicked walking away. He keeps looking over his shoulder saying "I'll be back mother f$$$er!" You gonna be sorry!

I loved those kids growing up, they usually kept getting their asses kicked until they brought back either their Dad, spastic Mom, or a kitchen knife and bat. I loved being a kid.
 
Just a reminder that the war with these control freaks is far from over. Big battle won yesterday, but we can't let our guard down now.
 
it aint over. O is pissed off and wont let it go.

The front door has been slammed in his face and locked, but he is still testing any little crack in the walls he can find.....

more to come. just wait.
 
I think he is acting like a spoiled child that can't get his way. After listening to his speech yesterday, it is becoming obvious to the most casual observer that this is the case. Add to that the I don't believe he know what compromise is, that his idea of a conversation is "Give me what I want, right now". It is all adding up. This despicable human being has never grown up. He is so used to getting whatever he wants that he cannot deal with it when he doesn't.
 
This is only the opening salvo. Now the push will be at the states ("See how the feds couldn't do anything, but we can.") and it is posturing for the mid terms. He does not want to be a lame duck.
 
So we're expected to comply with executive orders after proposals fail to pass the Democratically controlled senate?

Yeah. Ok king Barry, no problem.

Lol
 
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He cannot do bleep by EO. If he could, he would have already done it.


Yep. The gun control legislation as we know it is defunct. They will let is simmer, & will readress it at some point, but it will be completely watered down. No ban on idividual weapons or magazines. It will be a joke so that the Senate can save face.
 
He cannot do bleep by EO. If he could, he would have already done it.

He shouldn't be able to do anything by EO, but in reality he can try, particularly through the various agencies under his command. Think the EPA banning lead ammunition - that sort of crap.

And he wouldn't have already done it, he would have at least tried to get it done correctly - through congress - in any event. It's the smarter political move. Congress has effectively forced his hand now, so I can imagine him pushing a bunch of outrageous EOs and saying that congress left him no choice. Wait and see in any case.
 
So;
Now that that is past us. What has Mass. have in store for us?
I am still waiting for that shoe to drop!!!!
 
So;
Now that that is past us. What has Mass. have in store for us?
I am still waiting for that shoe to drop!!!!

Deval proposed very little in his legislation. The biggest piece is that he is proposing to limit 1 gun purchase per month. He also has some mumbo jumbo on mental health, but he's not pushing to ban assault weapons or further reduce magazine size since that worked so well in NY.
 
He shouldn't be able to do anything by EO, but in reality he can try, particularly through the various agencies under his command. Think the EPA banning lead ammunition - that sort of crap.

And he wouldn't have already done it, he would have at least tried to get it done correctly - through congress - in any event. It's the smarter political move. Congress has effectively forced his hand now, so I can imagine him pushing a bunch of outrageous EOs and saying that congress left him no choice. Wait and see in any case.

Expect to see the ATF ban importation of all firearms and ammo. You heard it here first. Glock, Benelli and others will be pissed but the GCA of 1968 gave the ATF the power to stop importation of any firearms and ammo.

This is the only thing Obama can legally do via EO. Anything else is illegal and deserves to be ignored and shots fired when it is attempted to be enforced.
 
The EO's will be something that the EPA will do to bullet/gunpowder manufactures. It'll force prices through the roof, ammunition cost will skyrocket and DHS will continue to buy huge quantities "for training". The beauty of all this is that he'll use our tax dollars to purchase artificially price-inflated ammunition and will dry up the civilian market. Expect it to become price prohibited to buy or reload ammunition. I can also see Federal fees (taxes) imposed on firearm owners. Something like a Federal firearms purchase tax on all future firearms sales. It'll be a last minute amendment to some popular bill and will be disguised as something unrelated to firearm purchases. Remember he said he would "punish his enemies and reward his friends". we're his enemies.
 
How about an executive order telling the police to round up known gang members and put them in jail for 20 years?
That would actually make a big difference in the violent crime rate.

But some of them might look like Obama's son, if he had one. So that wouldn't work.
 
Smartest thing he could do now is walk away. Say he tried and let it go. The only thing he will accomplish now is stirring up more hatred of the Dem's and loose them more seats in 2014 and 2016.

As a wise man once said "Put the shovel down son, the hole your in's just getting deeper"
 
Deval proposed very little in his legislation. The biggest piece is that he is proposing to limit 1 gun purchase per month. He also has some mumbo jumbo on mental health, but he's not pushing to ban assault weapons or further reduce magazine size since that worked so well in NY.

Really? Guess you haven't read it.

SECTION 6. Said section 121 of chapter 140 of the General Laws, as so appearing, is hereby
further amended by striking out, in lines 57-62, the words “a large capacity ammunition feeding
device as defined in the federal Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, 18
U.S.C. section 921(a)(31) as appearing in such section on September 13, 1994.” and inserting in
place thereof the following words:- containing more than seven rounds of ammunition; or (iii)
obtained after the effective date of this act and capable of accepting, or that can be readily
restored or converted to accept, more than seven rounds of ammunition
.

A gun show would be:
“Gun show”, an event including participation by one or more dealers for the purpose of selling,
renting, leasing or transferring weapons and/or ammunition.

Does that make Four Season's a gun show?

And that 1 gun a month thing is worse than that:

No person licensed under section 122 shall sell, rent or lease, to another person, other than to an
exempt person under subsection (c) of section 131E, more than 1 rifle, shotgun, firearm, machine
gun, large capacity weapon or large capacity feeding device in any 30-day period.

and screw that up and become a PP for life:
A non-exempt person who purchases, rents or leases more than 1 rifle, shotgun, firearm,
machine gun, large capacity weapon or large capacity feeding device in any 30-day period shall
be punished by a fine of not more than $1,000, or by imprisonment for not more than 2 ½ years,
or both, for a first offense; and for any subsequent offense shall be punished by a fine of not less
than $1,000 and not more than $5,000, or by imprisonment for not more than 2 ½ years in a
house of correction or not more than 5 years in the state prison, or by both such fine and
imprisonment.

No more private sales:
Any sale or transfer conducted under this section
shall comply with section 131E and shall take place at the location of a dealer licensed under
section 122,

And no using a machine gun without a license:
; and provided further, that nothing in this section shall
allow for the holding, handling, or firing of a machine gun by any person other than a person
licensed to possess a machine gun under section 131(o) or police personnel receiving instruction
from a firearm instructor certified by the municipal police training committee or the colonel of
the state police

And you will not be allowed to sell your current, legally owned large capacity magazines:
SECTION 23. Said section 131M of chapter 140 of the General Laws, as so appearing, is hereby
further amended by inserting after the word “possess” in line 1 the words:- : (i)

SECTION 24. Said section 131M of chapter 140 of the General Laws, as so appearing, is hereby
further amended by striking out, in line 3, the word “1994.” and inserting in place thereof the
following words:- 1994; or (ii) a large capacity feeding device that has a capacity of, or that can
be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition; or (iii) a large
capacity feeding device that such person lawfully possessed before the effective date of this act
that has a capacity of, or that can readily be restored or converted to accept, more than seven but
no more than ten rounds of ammunition, where such device contains more than seven rounds of
ammunition.”

Except that you are required to sell them within 1 year of his bill becoming law:
Any large capacity feeding device that has or can readily be restored or converted to
accept more than ten rounds of ammunition that was legally possessed by an individual prior to
the enactment of this act must be sold or otherwise lawfully disposed of within one year of the
act’s effective date. Such large capacity feeding devices may only be sold or disposed of to a
purchaser authorized to possess such weapons.
 
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We can speculate all we want but the one thing that Obama has showed is consistently is his desire to tax things. It's become somewhat of a punch like but truly, he taxes everything he can. So what I realistically expect is an overall price increase in most things related to the shooting sports, notably of course guns and ammo, perhaps even the raw materials. That's the one thing that fits his far left agenda. Tax people to the degree that they can do little else but rely on the government. It of course doesn't bother his billionaire liberal buddies. He's far less a socialist and more of a fascist dictator. Like others have said, his idea of compromise is everyone doing what he wants.

Still waiting on that budget....
 
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