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This is probobly just a sample of what we will be dealing with in 10 years.
frightening.

Using a network of cameras that can automatically read every passing number plate, the plan is to build a huge database of vehicle movements so that the police and security services can analyse any journey a driver has made over several years.

Britain will be first country to monitor every car journey
From 2006 Britain will be the first country where every journey by every car will be monitored

By Steve Connor, Science Editor
Published: 22 December 2005

Britain is to become the first country in the world where the movements of all vehicles on the roads are recorded. A new national surveillance system will hold the records for at least two years.

Using a network of cameras that can automatically read every passing number plate, the plan is to build a huge database of vehicle movements so that the police and security services can analyse any journey a driver has made over several years.

The network will incorporate thousands of existing CCTV cameras which are being converted to read number plates automatically night and day to provide 24/7 coverage of all motorways and main roads, as well as towns, cities, ports and petrol-station forecourts.

By next March a central database installed alongside the Police National Computer in Hendon, north London, will store the details of 35 million number-plate "reads" per day. These will include time, date and precise location, with camera sites monitored by global positioning satellites.

Already there are plans to extend the database by increasing the storage period to five years and by linking thousands of additional cameras so that details of up to 100 million number plates can be fed each day into the central databank.

Senior police officers have described the surveillance network as possibly the biggest advance in the technology of crime detection and prevention since the introduction of DNA fingerprinting.

But others concerned about civil liberties will be worried that the movements of millions of law-abiding people will soon be routinely recorded and kept on a central computer database for years.

The new national data centre of vehicle movements will form the basis of a sophisticated surveillance tool that lies at the heart of an operation designed to drive criminals off the road.

In the process, the data centre will provide unrivalled opportunities to gather intelligence data on the movements and associations of organised gangs and terrorist suspects whenever they use cars, vans or motorcycles.

The scheme is being orchestrated by the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) and has the full backing of ministers who have sanctioned the spending of £24m this year on equipment.

More than 50 local authorities have signed agreements to allow the police to convert thousands of existing traffic cameras so they can read number plates automatically. The data will then be transmitted to Hendon via a secure police communications network.

Chief constables are also on the verge of brokering agreements with the Highways Agency, supermarkets and petrol station owners to incorporate their own CCTV cameras into the network. In addition to cross-checking each number plate against stolen and suspect vehicles held on the Police National Computer, the national data centre will also check whether each vehicle is lawfully licensed, insured and has a valid MoT test certificate.

"Every time you make a car journey already, you'll be on CCTV somewhere. The difference is that, in future, the car's index plates will be read as well," said Frank Whiteley, Chief Constable of Hertfordshire and chairman of the Acpo steering committee on automatic number plate recognition (ANPR).

"What the data centre should be able to tell you is where a vehicle was in the past and where it is now, whether it was or wasn't at a particular location, and the routes taken to and from those crime scenes. Particularly important are associated vehicles," Mr Whiteley said.

The term "associated vehicles" means analysing convoys of cars, vans or trucks to see who is driving alongside a vehicle that is already known to be of interest to the police. Criminals, for instance, will drive somewhere in a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back in convoy to commit further crimes "You're not necessarily interested in the stolen vehicle. You're interested in what's moving with the stolen vehicle," Mr Whiteley explained.

According to a strategy document drawn up by Acpo, the national data centre in Hendon will be at the heart of a surveillance operation that should deny criminals the use of the roads.

"The intention is to create a comprehensive ANPR camera and reader infrastructure across the country to stop displacement of crime from area to area and to allow a comprehensive picture of vehicle movements to be captured," the Acpo strategy says.

"This development forms the basis of a 24/7 vehicle movement database that will revolutionise arrest, intelligence and crime investigation opportunities on a national basis," it says.

Mr Whiteley said MI5 will also use the database. "Clearly there are values for this in counter-terrorism," he said.

"The security services will use it for purposes that I frankly don't have access to. It's part of public protection. If the security services did not have access to this, we'd be negligent."

Britain is to become the first country in the world where the movements of all vehicles on the roads are recorded. A new national surveillance system will hold the records for at least two years.

Using a network of cameras that can automatically read every passing number plate, the plan is to build a huge database of vehicle movements so that the police and security services can analyse any journey a driver has made over several years.

The network will incorporate thousands of existing CCTV cameras which are being converted to read number plates automatically night and day to provide 24/7 coverage of all motorways and main roads, as well as towns, cities, ports and petrol-station forecourts.

By next March a central database installed alongside the Police National Computer in Hendon, north London, will store the details of 35 million number-plate "reads" per day. These will include time, date and precise location, with camera sites monitored by global positioning satellites.

Already there are plans to extend the database by increasing the storage period to five years and by linking thousands of additional cameras so that details of up to 100 million number plates can be fed each day into the central databank.

Senior police officers have described the surveillance network as possibly the biggest advance in the technology of crime detection and prevention since the introduction of DNA fingerprinting.

But others concerned about civil liberties will be worried that the movements of millions of law-abiding people will soon be routinely recorded and kept on a central computer database for years.

The new national data centre of vehicle movements will form the basis of a sophisticated surveillance tool that lies at the heart of an operation designed to drive criminals off the road.

In the process, the data centre will provide unrivalled opportunities to gather intelligence data on the movements and associations of organised gangs and terrorist suspects whenever they use cars, vans or motorcycles.

The scheme is being orchestrated by the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) and has the full backing of ministers who have sanctioned the spending of £24m this year on equipment.

More than 50 local authorities have signed agreements to allow the police to convert thousands of existing traffic cameras so they can read number plates automatically. The data will then be transmitted to Hendon via a secure police communications network.

Chief constables are also on the verge of brokering agreements with the Highways Agency, supermarkets and petrol station owners to incorporate their own CCTV cameras into the network. In addition to cross-checking each number plate against stolen and suspect vehicles held on the Police National Computer, the national data centre will also check whether each vehicle is lawfully licensed, insured and has a valid MoT test certificate.

"Every time you make a car journey already, you'll be on CCTV somewhere. The difference is that, in future, the car's index plates will be read as well," said Frank Whiteley, Chief Constable of Hertfordshire and chairman of the Acpo steering committee on automatic number plate recognition (ANPR).

"What the data centre should be able to tell you is where a vehicle was in the past and where it is now, whether it was or wasn't at a particular location, and the routes taken to and from those crime scenes. Particularly important are associated vehicles," Mr Whiteley said.

The term "associated vehicles" means analysing convoys of cars, vans or trucks to see who is driving alongside a vehicle that is already known to be of interest to the police. Criminals, for instance, will drive somewhere in a lawful vehicle, steal a car and then drive back in convoy to commit further crimes "You're not necessarily interested in the stolen vehicle. You're interested in what's moving with the stolen vehicle," Mr Whiteley explained.

According to a strategy document drawn up by Acpo, the national data centre in Hendon will be at the heart of a surveillance operation that should deny criminals the use of the roads.

"The intention is to create a comprehensive ANPR camera and reader infrastructure across the country to stop displacement of crime from area to area and to allow a comprehensive picture of vehicle movements to be captured," the Acpo strategy says.

"This development forms the basis of a 24/7 vehicle movement database that will revolutionise arrest, intelligence and crime investigation opportunities on a national basis," it says.

Mr Whiteley said MI5 will also use the database. "Clearly there are values for this in counter-terrorism," he said.

"The security services will use it for purposes that I frankly don't have access to. It's part of public protection. If the security services did not have access to this, we'd be negligent."
 
Every breath you take, every move you make, every bond you break, every step you take ... :(

Please excuse me while I pop on down to The Chestnut Tree for a nip of Victory Gin.

Ken
 
Doesn't Boston already have some type of vehicle or van with a scanner of some sort on the roof that reads license plate numbers of parked cars?
 
Ken,

Mind if I join you for that nip of gin ? It will help me learn to love Big Brother [wink]

Sadly, I really feel that it is not a question of if...but when, and like Nickle says we already have it with Onstar and other GPS locaters people subscribe to.

I can hardly wait until I get my personal tracking chip inserted. It will be for my own good, that way I can never be lost and the police or other authorities will always be able to find me. Gee, I am really glad that I live in country with such advanced technology :?

Mark
 
C-pher said:
Pilgrim said:
Just about everyone has a cell phone these days and they can tell 'them' where you are, too !

Well, that's why I've never upgraded my Nextel. Mine isn't GPS enabled. So they would have to use triangulation.

Wich isn't hard at all. And actully I think GPS (if it's true GPS) is actully HARDER to follow, unless the phone has some sort of "Polling" feature built into it, since satelight signals have such a broad umbrella.

Granted if your phone knows where you are, and "They" have a way to ask the phone this, then it's DAMN easy.

-Weer'd Beard
 
Weer'd Beard said:
Granted if your phone knows where you are, and "They" have a way to ask the phone this, then it's DAMN easy.

-Weer'd Beard

Word has it that they do and can.

But, all you have to do is remove the battery to kill the power.

C-Pher, not updating is turning out to NOT be an option. I've got an older phone, and they've changed the towers so I now get CRAPPY coverage.
 
Nickle said:
Weer'd Beard said:
Granted if your phone knows where you are, and "They" have a way to ask the phone this, then it's DAMN easy.

-Weer'd Beard

Word has it that they do and can.

But, all you have to do is remove the battery to kill the power.

C-Pher, not updating is turning out to NOT be an option. I've got an older phone, and they've changed the towers so I now get CRAPPY coverage.

Yea, that's the good thing about my Nextel. It's still got good coverage, and it seems to be better than the people that I know with the newer Nextel phones.

And as far as tracking with the GPS, yes they can.

My wife is the contract Manager for a Medical Repair Company. They have software that lets them track thier tech all over the country by their Nextel Phones. That way when a Hospital calls to see if they can get a tech in to fix a X-ray or something. They can look up on the computer an tell where a tech is so they can let them them know when to expect a tech.

It's really pretty cool.
 
When working, my every move and speed are displayed on a 62" Plasam screen [evil] MDT's are connected via cell but the locators area GPS.
 
Oh. My. G-d.

I think I'm gonna be sick. You just know that soon they'll be tracking people for any and all purposes...

Nauseating. And we're letting it happen to us, too.
 
what i find most disturbing about cell phones is that say a year and a half from now im put on trial for "insert crime here".
somehow they can magically produce digial transcripts of all phone conversations made on and around the date of the crime. i cant even begin to imagine how many thousands upon thousands of terrabytes it must take keep and store every cell phone conversation from every cell phone user on the planet and be able to pull any single call at any date even years after the fact.. i dont recall agreeing with my service carrier that my conversations were public record..
 
Hint - Cell Phones are really radios (of a sort), since that's pretty much how they communicate with the tower. Only thing needed is the frequency and a receiver.

I suggest you not say anything over a cell phone that could even remotely incriminate you. Kind of like e-mails and forum posting, no matter how private you think they may be.
 
as ive said in another thread. political races in 10-20 years are going to be BRUTAL..
kids and young adults these days nonchalantly post detailed stories of their (sometimes illegal) escapades on blogs,have years of digital recordings of all their most private phone conversations kept on record....my god,when these people become adults and go to run for office. [shock] oh man are they in for a suprise when this stuff resurfaces to bite them in the ass.
the librarians of this information are going to have a blackmail and leveraging tool unlike any other in political history/ their the ones who are going to be pulling the strings on the future political puppets of the digital generation.
 
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