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Nancy Pelosi : "Constitutionality Is NOT A Serious Question"

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by zzrider, Oct 23, 2009.

  1. zzrider

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    This is absolutely stunning...

    So here is the Speaker of the House, overtly dismissing a perfectly legitimate question on where the Government derives Constitutional authority to force citizen to purchase something.

    How is it possible to have an elected public servant openly declare herself above the Constitution? If this doesn't define treason and a domestic enemy of the Republic, what does?
     
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  2. sportycliff

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    She/They hope by ignoring the constitution it'll go away...













    It's working so far!
     
  3. 06LemansC6

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    The biggest problem is where does it end? Where do we draw the line? When do we stop bitching and take action? I gotta tell you I'm damn close to the point where I'm mad as hell and am not going to take it anymore.
     
  4. hminsky

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    Maybe it's under "general welfare"?
     
  5. TomH

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    "Where specifically does the Constitution grant Congress the authority to enact insert anything Congress does these days here?”

    This question should be asked of everything they are doing, and they should be forced to ANSWER! [angry]
     
  6. Bfatz

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    Last I checked I am an American Tax Payer which means I am the BOSS!!!!

    Answer THE fu**ing question
     
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  7. KMaurer

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    Unfortunately, it's ignoring the question seems to have been working just fine since about 1861. Why should this month be any different?
    [angry2] [mg]

    Ken
     
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    These Marxist pieces of trash are seemingly doing everything in their power to bring about a hands-on demonstration of what the Second Amendment is really all about.
     
  10. LKB3rd

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    Downsizedc.org has a bill called the "Enumerated Powers Act" where each law they pass must include their specific constitutional authority to pass such a law. They have other good ones, like "One Subject at a Time" where they can't sneak in some horrible thing into the "Feed the Troops" act (or any bill that would look bad if they voted no on), and the "Read the bills" act.
    You can sign up on their website, and they bombard congress with emails about these bills. It's easy to do, and the fact that reporters are asking questions like this suggests that maybe they are having a positive effect. Maybe he's a downsize dc'er.
    Pelosi blowing him off like that is an outrage. I find it hard to put into words how unacceptable that is. Sadly, it doesn't surprise me. And, some good can come of it. I heard this somewhere, and I am paraphrasing.. What is the best way to take down a tyrant? Make him act like a tyrant. Madam speaker is showing her true colors, and they aren't pretty.
     
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  11. Lynne

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    Bella Pelosi can KMA. [frown]
     
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    Why is this a surprise at all?
     
  13. JRyan

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    She's a traitor, a coward and entirely ignorant of what made America a great country.

    I'd love to see her in some type of Federal "pound you in the a$$" prison.
     
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    Give em more rope. This is great in many ways they are comfortable enough to say what they really believe under the illusion that the whole country agrees with them. I'm happy when these unhung traitors speak their mind.
     
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    On the "general welfare" issue. As I understand it, the abuse of this clause comes from reading it outside the context of the whole document. Understood in context, it is a shorthand for the enumerated powers. Otherwise there would be no point in enumerating the powers at all as the general welfare clause would empower the federal govt. to do anything it wanted.

    A related point is, the general welfare clause gives the fed power to tax but it does not give it power to spend. That power comes from the "necessary and proper" clause, which makes it clear that spending is only allowed for the enumerated purposes.

    As far as Pelosi goes, her response is sickening as she is obliged to consider the issue seriously, but unfortunately federal healthcare is probably constitutional according to the ridiculous precedents set under duress by the New Deal court.
     
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    unfortunatly there are too many mindless dem zombies that follow after this bs cause they think the government is trying to help them, and they dont think twice but to agree with whatever the gov wants to do.

    the good guys are outnumbered [sad2]
     
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    Exactly so, and it may be helpful for those who have never done so so actually read the section. It should be pretty obvious to any reader that the general welfare clause is simply an introduction to, and summarization of, the enumerated powers that follow and, in itself, was not intended to grant any powers.

    As the original poster points out, why waste space enumerating powers if the words "common defense and general welfare" were supposed to simply be an open-ended free-for-all?

     
  18. Jose

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    She's treading a very dangerous line.
     
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    Actually, she stopped, squatted and took a dump on that line in public and then kept on walking...

    What remains to be seen is if anyone will follow her?
     
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    If they do, at least we'll know who they are. They'll be wearing a stinky shoe.
     
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    Got bored so I actually emailed Beck to see if he will expose this. Seriously, if this in fact true and can be verified I think it can push the kind of change this country needs faster.
     
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    Hell yeah! [smile]
     
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    She's right. The Constitution doesn't mean squat anymore. The Republic is in it's death throes.

    And yes, this is how the Republic ends. Not with a bang, but a whisper.
     
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    Really? What exactly is that Jose? Maybe, she might *gasp* get re-elected?! [thinking]

    Give me a break. Nothing is going to happen. The American people are a bunch of complacent, American Idol worshiping tools.
     
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    "So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause." - Queen Amidala
     
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    I was just thinking about that line.....
     
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    I have a feeling there will be lots of bangs if both major parties continue "Interpreting" the Constitution. [thinking]
     
  29. Is there any more proof needed to show that the federal government is well beyond "out of control" and that it has become a complete and total criminal enterprise?
     
  30. Lynne

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    You got that right.
     

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