N.H. deer hunters crowded out by expanding human population

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Dwindling species
N.H. deer hunters crowded out by expanding human population

By Douglas Belkin, Globe Staff | December 3, 2006

HOLLIS, N.H. -- Walking through Spaulding Park Town Forest last Sunday, orange hunting vests on their backs and 12-gauge shotguns in their hands, Bob and Tom Dufresne saw four youngsters on mountain bikes, two women jogging, and one couple walking a very small, very annoying Yorkshire terrier. What they did not see was a deer.

"I don't even expect to get one when I come out nowadays," said Bob Dufresne, a spokesman for the New Hampshire Wildlife Federation. "I'm out here as much for the sunrises and the sunsets as anything else."

Welcome to the strange new world of deer hunting in southern New Hampshire. A place where the deer are plentiful but where the land they browse has become so crowded that getting a clean shot -- or even a glimpse -- is becoming harder every year.

In the last 10 years, as development has inhaled broad swaths of southern New Hampshire, "No hunting" signs -- once a rare and disdained sight in these parts -- have become ubiquitous. The antihunting sentiment that has taken root here is fueled, hunters say, by people "from away" -- those who grew up far from the woods.

The result is that although the deer population statewide has been stable at about 81,000, wildlife officials see higher concentrations of deer in the rapidly developing south. That means more deer-related traffic accidents, more concern about Lyme disease, and an increase in the tension between hunters and folks who don't want them around.

Ed Briand, an 83-year-old hunter and gun shop owner in Nashua, has had his fill of this new breed of southern New Hampshire resident. He points to the homes of his neighbors near his shop. "They're from Massachusetts, they're from Massachusetts, and they're from Massachusetts," he said. "It's enough already."

In Hollis, a nearly century-old local hunting club has been shut down by new neighbors disturbed by the noise from rifle reports. In Londonderry, the Town Council last month narrowly defeated an ordinance that would have prohibited hunting on all town-owned land. And last month in Derry, a woman delivered a severed deer head to the home of a Fish and Game Department official to protest hunting on public property.

"Her message was to demonstrate that hunters are not good people and they don't have any concern for anybody else," said Stephen Nottonson, Fish and Game Department commissioner for Rockingham County, who received the severed head.

For landowners, there are three main concerns, said Charles Minor, who administrates the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department's landowner relations program: safety, animal rights, and land owner liability.

But there is also a growing concern about disrespect by hunters toward property owners, said Heather Peterson, who owns 370 acres in Peterborough. Peterson had always allowed hunters on her property. Then a group started using ATV's and practicing what she called unfair deer hunting. She posted no hunting signs without written permission three years ago.

"We're finding there's a new breed of hunters out there that are less respectful," she said. "It's really too bad."

Her neighbors have come to the same conclusion, she said. In the past three years, they have posted no hunting signs on about 2,000 acres, she said.

The town-owned Spaulding Forest, where the Dufresnes fruitlessly stalked their prey last week, is one of the last remaining public hunting lands in Hollis, a quickly growing suburb of Nashua. Traditionally, hunters have not had to rely on public land in this part of the state because private land owners have welcomed them. According to state law, any land not posted no hunting is open to hunters.

But so many of those signs have been popping up lately that last summer New Hampshire Fish and Game created a new program to reach out to new homeowners to dissuade them from posting the signs.

"It's a clash of cultures," said Mark Ellingwood, a wildlife biologist with the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department. "A lot of these folks think that if they are prohibiting hunting they are doing something good for wildlife."

It's just the opposite, said Ellingwood. Hunters play a critical role in controlling a deer population that is thriving on the high-calorie landscaped buffet that accompan ies many new homes.

This deer problem in southern New Hampshire has created something of paradox. More deer on less land should mean better hunting. But heavily used parks and restrictions on private property have handcuffed hunters and created the opposite effect.

Last year in Rockingham County, permits were issued for 3,250 doe, said Nottonson, but only about 650 were actually killed. This year 5,500 permits have been issued to cull the population. The numbers of doe taken is not yet in.

"One of the biggest problems is the hunters can't get onto a lot of the property," Nottonson said. "And the deer are sharp. They learn where to go."

All this is compounded by fewer hunters. Deer hunting, once a rite of passage in New Hampshire, has been on a long and steady decline. The number of licensed hunters has dropped by a quarter in a decade -- from 81,458 in 1995 to 60,737 last year, according to the state.

"It's a matter of time, Dufresne said. "People just don't have it. They're too busy."

The public mood toward hunters continues to sour. Every year, Hollis Police Chief Russell Ux said, he gets more complaints about hunters than the year before.

"We get calls all the time from people who say they just saw a guy coming out of the woods with a gun," Ux said. The backlash against hunters is part of a larger set of growing pains driven by development. About 18,000 acres of forest in New Hampshire are cut down every year to make room for new homes and the businesses to support them.

For his part, Bob Dufresne has had several people -- all of whom, he suspects, are "from away" -- tell him he shouldn't be hunting on the same public land where he has been hunting for decades. They're wrong, but it's their supercilious manner that unnerves him, he says.

"In England, if you were caught killing the king's animal on the king's land, the hunter could be shot," Dufresne said. "Sometimes it feels like that's where we're headed."

Douglas Belkin can be reached at [email protected].

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Some thoughts on this:

1. It makes sad and angry to read this.

2. Damn whoever those rude hunters were that did not respect the land owners! They ruin it for everybody else! Respect and courtesy should be THE watch-words for hunters when using ALL land.

3. Damn the Blue Chill for creeping into NH. Yes, okay I am a hypocrite for saying that since I just came from MA but I do not wish to end traditions like hunting, I wish to preserve and expand them.

4. I really do not know how to stop this. Hunters being reported to the cops for carrying their guns? It shows the Ma**h*** attitude in action. It sickens me frankly.

I am very upset after reading this. It makes me wonder why I moved here in the first place. How long until they move past banning hunting and come right for everybody's guns???? [angry]
 
From "Paint Your Wagon"

God made the mountains
God made the sky
God made the people
God knows why

He fixed up the planet
As best as He could
Then in come the people
And gum it up good

The first thing you know

They civilized the foothills
And every where He put hills
The mountains and valley below

They come along and take 'em
And civilize and make 'em
A place where no civilized
Person would go

The first thing you know
The first thing you know

They civilize what's pretty
By puttin' up a city
Where nothin' that's
Pretty can grow

They muddy up the winter
And civilize it into
A place too uncivilized
Even for snow

The first thing you know

They civilize left
They civilize right
Till nothing is left
Till nothing is right

They civilize freedom
Till no one is free
No one except
By coincidence, me

The first thing you know

The boozer's in prison
And the criminal he isn't
And only the rascals have dough

When I see a parson
I gotta put my arse in
A wagon that follows the tail of a crow
 
Ma**h***s......they ruin every place they go. New Hampshire should have preempted this invasion years ago by legislating laws to protect their state from Massachusetts socialists. Everything that made New Hampshire attractive to move to or live there will vanish at the hand of ignorant liberal socialist from out of state(mostly from MA, NY, NJ, CT) who want to bring their life with them and make their new world conform.
 
Ma**h***s......they ruin every place they go. New Hampshire should have preempted this invasion years ago by legislating laws to protect their state from Massachusetts socialists. Everything that made New Hampshire attractive to move to or live there will vanish at the hand of ignorant liberal socialist from out of state(mostly from MA, NY, NJ, CT) who want to bring their life with them and make their new world conform.

They should do this now before too many anti's move in and take over the votes...
 
What kind of laws do you think would work in that sense though? Constitutional amendments probably?

Any NH folks here who can give that a go? I'd love it if we could pass stuff that would stop the ma**h***s from ruining everything. Also though, don't forget that it's not just ma**h***s. The Union Leader had an article that talked about how there are people coming into NH from other states that are the ones voting Democratic overwhelmingly. It's people like me and Bruce coming from MA that are helping to keep NH conservative, believe it or not.

Ma**h***s......they ruin every place they go. New Hampshire should have preempted this invasion years ago by legislating laws to protect their state from Massachusetts socialists. Everything that made New Hampshire attractive to move to or live there will vanish at the hand of ignorant liberal socialist from out of state(mostly from MA, NY, NJ, CT) who want to bring their life with them and make their new world conform.
 
4. ... Hunters being reported to the cops for carrying their guns? It shows the Ma**h*** attitude in action. ...

The real problem here is that there seem to be a lot more of them in the police departments as well. Otherwise, the conversations would go something like this:

Caller: "There's a bunch of guys walking through the woods with guns!!!!"
Dispatcher: "Uh huh. Have they shot at you or any one else that you're aware of?"
Caller: "No, but they've all got guns!!!" (sound of urine running down leg and dripping onto floor)
Dispatcher:
"I see. Have they threatened anybody or damaged your property?"
Caller: "No, but you're not listening to me. They've got a buch of assault weapons or machine guns!!!" (starts to sob hysterically)
Dispatcher: "Thanks for letting us know ma'am. We'll send somebody out to look into it." (hangs up phone) (sighs) "Ma**h***!"

Ken
 
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4. ... Hunters being reported to the cops for carrying their guns? It shows the Ma**h*** attitude in action. ...

The real problem here is that there seem to be a lot more of them in the police departments as well. Otherwise, the conversations would go something like this:

Quote:
Caller: "There's a bunch of guys walking through the woods with guns!!!!"
Dispatcher: "Uh huh. Have they shot at you or any one else that you're aware of?"
Caller: "No, but they've all got guns!!!" (sound of urine running down leg and dripping onto floor)
Dispatcher: "I see. Have they threatened anybody or damaged your property?"
Caller: "No, but you're not listening to me. They've got a buch of assault weapons or machine guns!!!" (starts to sob hysterically)
Dispatcher: "Thanks for letting us know ma'am. We'll send somebody out to look into it." (hangs up phone) (sighs) "Ma**h***!"




Ken

Thats beautiful......and accurate.
 
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What this state ( and most northern NE states ) need to do is have a different tax rate for people that allow public access on their land.That would help to slow down things like this and the likes of Roxanne Quimby ( aka , the bitch) from closing tracts of land traditionaly open to the public.Like anything in life , if ya want results , add in the financial aspect and things change.
 
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