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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Zappa, Nov 5, 2016.
Travel is a right. As is owning property
We just let the government take those rights away.
Do I detect a sovereign citizen?
Do I detect someone who actually thinks the Founders thought the commerce clause allows government to control your every whim?
I'm only commenting on your specific statement. You're putting words in my mouth, I haven't comment on the commerce clause either way.
BTW I responded to you comment about a car, you changed that to mean traveling, which I haven't commented on. Last time I checked there was more than one way to travel. So one does not equal the other.
But let's get back on the topic of how irresponsible [email protected] cause problems for responsible gun owners. I just can't understand the thought process that ends with "I'm going to play with, or even carry, my gun while I get drunk and high". Let alone handing it to someone else. I was asked recently, by someone I trusted, in a relatively private setting, if they could take a look at my carry. We had been talking guns and the aspects of what made a good ccw. I simply said no. My position is, a ccw is there for a reason, it's not there for show and tell. It stays CC unless it is needed. Thankfully, so far, it hasn't been needed. If we were at a range shooting it would be different, so the specific situation is relevant.
Well to the point of handing your firearm to someone, I would never hand my gun to someone I wasn't familiar with. If I was familiar but uncertain of their firearms handling, I'd unload it first. There are very few people I know that I would hand a loaded firearm to.
On your point of not carrying while drinking I personally find that ridiculous. If you don't trust yourself holding a gun while drinking, my view on the issue is you shouldn't be drinking because you clearly are aware you have a problem with self control. The object in your hand (or holster) has nothing to do with your k knowledge you make poor decisions while under the influence of something. My follow up question would be do you carry while tired? Becuase being extremely tired is basically the same thing as being drunk from a decision making perspective.
Short response to driving. IMO all forms are travel are rights period. The government should not be allowed to restrict or tax travel in any way. The only laws in place should be in regards to you violating other peoples rights while you travel.
Try to pay attention. I clearly said "drunk" as in intoxicated, which is not the same as having a drink. And if you are getting drunk, the concern isn't just you. Being intoxicated slows your responses, can lead to being unconscious or just asleep, and affects your judgement. With all this, even if you do nothing wrong, you are at risk of losing your gun to someone looking to take advantage of the situation. Since the affects of alcohol that I've listed here are indisputable, carrying when you get drunk shows a serious lack of judgement and responsibility. Again, this is DRUNK, not having a drink. And you are correct, in that if you are so tired that you're at risk of becoming unconscious, that you judgement is poor, and someone could take advantage of you. Then yes you should not carry a gun, you should be in bed sleeping. Being out in that condition shows poor judgement.
Derry, NH *Shooting* 14 Fairway Dr. Male With Accidental GSW To Leg. 6:06pm
Soap and water solution used to flush out bullet hole through hand
"I took apart my 9 mm pistol to clean it about a week ago. After i put it back together, I put a bullet in the chamber to see if cleaning it had made this 'loaded chamber indicator' pin work again, but it didn't. I was taking the bullet out of the gun and my hand that i was using to basically push the slide backwards slipped, and the gun fired into that hand, without pulling the trigger. It was some kind of malfunction. luckily my hand was at an angle and so the bullet didn't hit anything important, just a hole through the muscle. They used this soap and water solution to flush it out at the emergency room. the pictures are what it looked like the day after."
I'd like to know what kind of pistol it was^
The FNS has been shown to have a problem of firing unintentionally under a unique set of circumstances, but it doesn't have a protruding pin type loaded chamber indicator.
Lol. He put his hand in front of the pistol while unloading it and he thinks I should believe him when he tells me he didn't have his other booger hook on the bang switch?
Man shoots himself in leg while holstering gun in Jackson IHOP parking lot.
Spoiler: Seems like the perfect place to do that
(Ducking to avoid all the Glock owners...)
Owning property ain’t all is cracked up to be unless your constantly playing flip my house....
Now section 8 housing.... that’s a right... I’m ready to give up and go that way.maybe make some babies.
(Speaking of guns and IHOP:
NYPost: Video shows chaos inside Long Island IHOP during shooting
Blood A busts a cap on Blood B
(mightn't have minded hitting Blood C, either).
Video is modestly instructive,
at least in terms of how quickly events can unfold).
Policewoman killed by colleague 'playing' with gun
Yesterday in Yarmouth:
Yarmouth, MA *Shooting W/Medevac* 481 Buck Island Rd. SVCS RPT Firearm Discharge Believed To Be Accidental. GSW Through Hand. Medflight Req. 2:45pm
It must be a pretty nasty hand wound if they called for Medflight.
Here's a really odd one:
Police say a man shot himself in the foot after throwing a shoe at a cockroach
Maybe he was an amputee,
so there was extra room beside the prosthetic in the shoe?
(Haven't ogled any prosthetic/shoe interfaces, so that's rank speculation).
Or he's a Control agent, and he was packing a shoe gun.
Wouldn't be the first time(Modulo the cockroach).
NYPost: Upstate cop fleeing rabid fox shoots himself in chest
It's a real Yakety Sax tale, too.
So start the soundtrack here before you surf off
to read the actual newspaper article in another tab.
And that's not even counting the fact that
the victim was evidently carrying the kind of service pistol
that fires deadly boolits when you,
or any other vaguely finger-shaped object,
pulls the trigger.
Blountsville Elementary substitute teacher’s gun accidentally goes off in 1st-grade classroom
Sounds like a dumbass who just threw a revolver in his pocket.
When questioned about the incident he admitted he ddn't have a leg to stand on.
Adult, child injured in accidental shooting in Vestavia Hills’ Chuck E. Cheese’s parking during diaper change
Actually, I'd think it was the other way around. Attacking all those kids would be a powerful message by any terrorist or attention seeking crazy. This doesn't excuse the actions of the irresponsible idiot.
Yup, that's pretty much life.
Only wussy's own firearms with safeties..
Proceeds to shoot his kid in the leg and himself in the chest!
@Zappa How'd ya miss this one....
Toddler wounded by shot fired through ceiling of apartment strewn with empty bottles, loaded guns
I never thought I'd see the day when
carefully following Joe Biden's instructions
actually made one safer.
Florida cop accidentally fires gun in grocery line, grazes woman
Separate names with a comma.