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You missed the point. It's all about relative perception. Beto moved the goalpost way left, so now we're arguing about LITERAL confiscation... so other clowns can swoop in and say 'see? Background checks aren't so bad'
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As one commentator said, the D’s want 20%, demand 100%, and get 40%. They’ve gotten so caught up that Beto actually doesn’t realize he’s moved the goalpost into the ocean. My Constitutional rights aren’t negotiable.
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God it makes me wonder what these Democrats real end game is when they all in some way or another want to attempt to disarm the public. I get it a docileI public and all the power that come with it and cant imagine what come next. How did we let it get this far.
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i think your right on the money with that one...…..and nice dark tower reference bty.
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Really? I thought that it meant that the rifle would be on the dining room table, with the standard-cap mag next to it, a chamber flag in it, and the ammo in a zip-lock bag, ready to travel. I thought he was being helpful.
Jason Flare
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I don’t think confiscation is a new concept.
Hope this helps:
Hope this helps:
El_Guapo77
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I just checked and actually this isn't a dupe. The other one is about his policy, and this is about his statement at the debate.
And this thread is more active and in the correct forum. Merge the other one into this, or close the other thread and direct everyone here.
Heh...as a response to Mr. Noir's video I was going to post a clip from a Star Wars movie....he beat me to it though...lol
Hard to argue with this. Now that Beto pushed the Dems out of the closet on confiscation, they can never return to the old "Nobody is coming for your guns" canard. Hell I think Beto did us all a favor by pulling back the curtain once and for all.
It's difficult to make us look like paranoid nutballs about defacto gun registries stemming from UBCs with Robert Francis giving away the endgame.
This article sums this point up concisely.
Beto O'Rourke's Gun-Confiscation Proposal Is Unconstitutional but Clarifying | National Review
You give the Dems credit for being more organized than they are. This would require Beta to be a willing sacrifice and he’s not. He’s literally trying to drum up votes by moving this far left, he is most assuredly NOT deliberately setting up a scenario to allow someone else to gain the credit for something lesser by asking for the unachievable in a plan to make the lessor position look more palatable. These guys are all out for themselves. Yes the end result IS that the lessor position will look more palatable but Beto isn’t setting this up deliberately. He’s not deliberately changing the narrative, he’s trying to get elected.
And stop being an a**h***.
Maybe we should take a different approach?
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Right... except he's not the only one doing this. Also, these guys are all being driven by lobbyists and think tanks, who are all intimately aware of the concept. Look at the overall cohesion of Betos message and the narrative being driven in the media.
And... You can f*** off. I haven't even started being an a**h*** yet.
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The funny thing is, my original post said 'a wee bit of Overton window shifting'. Most people with reading comprehension would take that for what it means. It's not just him. It's also not EVERYTHING that is behind his statement. It's one possible factor. If you don't think that leftist know that they need to push the acceptable frame of what is socially acceptable to promote as gun control. I don't know what to tell you.
They've always been saying that though, although it's pretty obvious that they used him as a pawn to do this in a
very public, overt manner, contrast with the fake CNN "surveys of gun owners who think background checks are a good idea" etc.
The thing is though is the real danger here isn't influencing voters, but rather influencing wonky politicians in both
parties into thinking that crap is acceptable. I don't think there's a genuine grass-roots desire nationally by voters outside of the hard commie districts to actually push gun control. Most of this rhetoric is all crap to try to con the pols into believing its widely supported. The entire anti platform is based off peacocking, it always has been, always will be. Bloomberg et al spend millions on basically paying leftists to campaign for gun control, pay for protesters to show up, etc. Of course the dangerous thing is some of these "think tanks" consultants etc, are somewhat deep state operatives and they have the power to influence these politicians... Trump is a fun example
of this... I mean does anyone here think that he'd be spewing his garbage about what he thinks 2A is about (but isn't) if it wasn't dinner-plated by some kind of consultant or think tank, etc? It's pretty obvious he's drinking the swamp water on guns.
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Robert O’Rourke made a threat about taking everyone’s guns, if there ever was one. It is long past time to throw the “Red Flag” on him. I wonder if anyone will contact the FBI about him.
The sixty four dollar question is, who is pushing these communists to incite a civil war? They don’t know, or don’t care that they are playing with Fire!
The sixty four dollar question is, who is pushing these communists to incite a civil war? They don’t know, or don’t care that they are playing with Fire!
Of course with tinfoil hat on, the acceptable frame only has to be an idea that can be sold by swamp creatures to
mentally-malleable politicians. It doesn't have to be accepted by the voters/public. It just has to be a "sellable
lie" that will withstand what I would call "finger press" level of scrutiny. It's pretty obvious that these influencers
are dangerous, as they basically turn various pols into robots on this or that subject.
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All I've been trying to say, is that you are hearing things in the mainstream now that would not have been remotely acceptable 50 years ago. There's a reason for that. Whether or not it is intentional is up for debate. The fact that retarded shit (not just guns) is openly discussed and taken seriously means that the window is most definitely moving left.
SpaceCritter
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Okay, ancient Greek scholars:
What is the proper way to express:
MOLON LABE, BETO
?
I know the first part is:
μολὼν λαβέ
but I know languages handle cases differently, and the last part would be what (in Irish and many others) would be the Vocative Case: my name (as Gaeilge) goes from being "Seán" (in the Nomanitive) to "a Sheáin" (in the Vocative). Thanking me (as, for instance, for introducing this linguistic discussion) would thus be: "Go raibh maith agat, a Sheáin." ("Seán" is pronounced Shawn. "a Sheáin" is roughly "uh-hYoin.")
So... how do we do this correctly in ancient Greek? I won't have it on the back of my truck unless it's correct.
What is the proper way to express:
MOLON LABE, BETO
?
I know the first part is:
μολὼν λαβέ
but I know languages handle cases differently, and the last part would be what (in Irish and many others) would be the Vocative Case: my name (as Gaeilge) goes from being "Seán" (in the Nomanitive) to "a Sheáin" (in the Vocative). Thanking me (as, for instance, for introducing this linguistic discussion) would thus be: "Go raibh maith agat, a Sheáin." ("Seán" is pronounced Shawn. "a Sheáin" is roughly "uh-hYoin.")
So... how do we do this correctly in ancient Greek? I won't have it on the back of my truck unless it's correct.
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