Multiple Firefighters shot

[Zappa]

FIFY. That piece of shit wishes there was someone there to put out the fire where his now.

I'm still waiting to hear if they find bodies in the house he set fire to.

 

[MA_Shooter]

Now this was something that absolutely could have been prevented.
Had he been given the death penalty, or at least life without parole, for the murder of his grandmother.
I say this is a better argument for capital punishment than for gun control.

Dumb asses will never make the connection. Just like the guys in MA that were paroled, with three consecutive life sentences, that subsequently killed a cop during a botched Kohls robbery. Clearly we need stronger gun laws

 

[Len-2A Training]

RIP to the brave firefighters!

This SOB should never have been on the street to begin with. The fault lies squarely on the "justice" system where courts are much too lenient.

 

[leewongfei]

RIP to the brave firefighters!

This SOB should never have been on the street to begin with. The fault lies squarely on the "justice" system where courts are much too lenient.

I agree with you, this guy should have stayed locked up. I know what they will blame this on though...

 

[sweed]

Hanging at my parents house, this story came on and I said, 'so why was this guy let out of jail?'
My mom just shaking her said 'i know right'
Then my dad saying 'i guess we should ban hammers now.'
(obviously kidding) neither are gun owners, but believe in the 2nd amendment to own guns. My mom doesn't like guns from what happened to past family members, but she's coming around.

 

[NHAtHeart]

News reports are now saying it was a .223 Bushmaster, .38 revolver and a 12gauge.

Seems odd that both shooters would have the same make of rifle.

 

[AllaSnackbah]

News reports are now saying it was a .223 Bushmaster, .38 revolver and a 12gauge.

Seems odd that both shooters would have the same make of rifle.

 

[jtorbin88]

Bushmaster rifle and he killed Tony the Tiger

 

[OfficerObie59]

News reports are now saying it was a .223 Bushmaster, .38 revolver and a 12gauge.

Seems odd that both shooters would have the same make of rifle.

After Sandy Hook, I bet the media now classifies all AR-15's as a "Bushmaster .223". They probably have no idea that the type of gun pictured in that three-gun graphic during the Sandy Hook reporting can be manufactured by someone else.

 

[expedition03]

another nail in the coffin for us. One of the guns recovered was a .223 bushmaster rifle. Bang bang goes the hammer nailing the coffin on us! WTF

 

[Neverknowsbest]

Only one solution. Arm the firefighters.

This.. time to start adding deck guns to the deck gun

But all in all this is getting really old.

R.I.P fellow firefighters.


When duty call's me, oh Lord,
Wherever Flames may rage,
Give me the strength to save some life
Whatever Be its age.

Help me embrace a little child
Before it is too late
Or save an older person from
The horror of that fate

Enable me to be alert,
and oh Lord, guide my every move,
for life is so precious,
please don't let us loose.

I want to fill my calling and
To give the best in me
To guard my every neighbor
And protect their property

And if according to thy will,
That I must give my life,
Then with thy protecting hand my Lord,
I pray thee, protect my children and my wife.

 

[OB1Kenobi]

Only one solution. Arm the firefighters.

sure, how would they draw and fire with all that gear on? time for the POL's to let the sheeple know.... no Fire or EMS response w/o police escort.

let the sheep arm themselves, which they won't.

btw: i did my internship with FDNY back in 2000, we had vests.

and "armed" fire department? um, no. it's a dangerous job.


*sarcasm/ i blame the Chicago Fire TV show for this one.

 

[Chrispy]

Of course it was a Bushmaster, did you think it would be anything else? Even if it said DPMS, Sig or Smith and Wesson on it, it will forever known to the media as a Bushmaster. Also, i read an article that said he had a "Mossman" 12 guage.

 

[ToddDubya]

It was equipped with flash suppression. That's why they couldnt spot him right away .

 

[ToddDubya]

Meanwhile in China, a guy mowed down a bunch of school children. It would have been worse but the car didn't explode like he planned. Thankfully none of the kids died. Better ban exploding cars before it happens.

 

[gene]

The fact that felons and murderers like him can get them actually makes the case for law abiding citizens to have them to protect themselves. They obviously didn't do a very good job protecting the general population from this diseased piece of feces.

 

[SteelShooter]

The fact that felons and murderers like him can get them actually makes the case for law abiding citizens to have them to protect themselves. They obviously didn't do a very good job protecting the general population from this diseased piece of feces.

But that is their end game, to ban and get rid of all guns, because then no one would be able to get them or use them.

 

[calsdad]

News reports are now saying it was a .223 Bushmaster, .38 revolver and a 12gauge.

Seems odd that both shooters would have the same make of rifle.

They were probably excess rifles that never got shipped off to Georgia a few years back. Somebody found them sitting in a warehouse somewhere and thought to themselves " these are perfect for what we need them for".

 

[SteelShooter]

They were probably excess rifles that never got shipped off to Georgia a few years back. Somebody found them sitting in a warehouse somewhere and thought to themselves " these are perfect for what we need them for".

Most excellent!

 

[Mass-diver]

I heard the shooter was a well liked, kind man. If only the NRA didn't once him to take than gun with that big clip.

 

[crazymjb]

From CNN:

But because Spengler had them [guns], two families are in mourning. Many of his former neighbors are homeless, because having a gunman on the loose slowed fire crews' efforts to corral a blaze that eventually destroyed seven homes.

Are these people ****ing serious? That's how you conclude a story about a man who was let out of prison after murdering his grandmother with a hammer and wrote in his suicide note that he likes killing people? I mean I guess to be FAIR they did mention that in the article, but it is clear where they are shifting the blame.

Mike

 

[Infinite Jester]

sure, how would they draw and fire with all that gear on? time for the POL's to let the sheeple know.... no Fire or EMS response w/o police escort.

let the sheep arm themselves, which they won't.

btw: i did my internship with FDNY back in 2000, we had vests.

and "armed" fire department? um, no. it's a dangerous job.


*sarcasm/ i blame the Chicago Fire TV show for this one.

You missed the sarcasm. It's a call back to the "arm the teachers" mantra of last week.

 

[Zappa]

I'm still waiting to hear if they find bodies in the house he set fire to.

I called this one, the TV news just reported that investigators found the remains of a second body in the burned house. [sad2]

 

[atilla]

After Sandy Hook, I bet the media now classifies all AR-15's as a "Bushmaster .223". They probably have no idea that the type of gun pictured in that three-gun graphic during the Sandy Hook reporting can be manufactured by someone else.

this. time to revise the "journalist's guide to firearms identification".

i did my internship with FDNY back in 2000, we had vests.

blarggggh. i bet that SUCKED!

I called this one, the TV news just reported that investigators found the remains of a second body in the burned house. [sad2]

this case is so ****ed up and weird, especially the note. clearly this guy was unstable, clearly there was a lot going on that we're not aware of--but someone doesn't just decide to go and do this... there has to be a stressor that caused this break and from there it was game on for this mother****er. i guess his mother/grandmother died and he was stuck with his sister that he hated? so he went nuts, set a fire, and shot firefighters? again i "wtf?"

 

[ToddDubya]

I think it wasn't so much an ambush to kill firefighters as it was they were interfering with his plan to burn down the neighborhood. Since he wanted to kill as many people as possible, the firefighters were just unfortunate collateral damage.

 

[xtry51]

Now this was something that absolutely could have been prevented.
Had he been given the death penalty, or at least life without parole, for the murder of his grandmother.
I say this is a better argument for capital punishment than for gun control.

This.

 

[OB1Kenobi]

This.

i do NOT trust the govt enough for the death penalty. send them off to "fight island" or something. way too many convictions have been overturned in the last decade to show that the justice system is broken.

 

[Terminator03]

I think it wasn't so much an ambush to kill firefighters as it was they were interfering with his plan to burn down the neighborhood. Since he wanted to kill as many people as possible, the firefighters were just unfortunate collateral damage.

I agree with this. Unless it specifically mentions the firefighters in his note, or he had some ax to grind with the fire dept., then it is logical that he just shot them to keep them away to keep the fire raging.

 

[jtorbin88]

News I saw reported him using a "sniper rifle bushmaster" and he was sniping people...

 

[Zappa]

I agree with this. Unless it specifically mentions the firefighters in his note, or he had some ax to grind with the fire dept., then it is logical that he just shot them to keep them away to keep the fire raging.

I don't have a link yet, but a friend told me he heard a news report that said this nutjob did have a gripe with the local FD.
He allegedly killed his grandmother with the hammer because she made a huge cash donation to the FD.
The killer believed that the money should have been part of his inheritance, and he felt that somehow the FD was responsible for cheating him out of it.
Twisted logic from a twisted mind.