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Yahbut what others scenarios besides moving in with the gunthere is no requirement to "register".
He could have bought it while living out of state legally and brought it back to MA (we all know the law on that)
They're saying it's improper storage - not improper transport or drunk carry.The guns were unloaded, that is going to take a lot of wind out of the sails of the charges IMHO
Why, yes; as a matter of fact, he does:Wait a minute. What is a "personal cruiser"? Does he have a "personal police force"?
The fact that they pulled "too drunk to control" out of an orificeThis case should have been broomed at the Clerk Magistrate level.
I thought Howie spent 2 (two) full hours
covering this since the news broke -
including Turtle Boy phoning in to the show.
Maybe it was only this hour:
State Police Colonel Cover Up Son’s DUI – Turtleboy – 5.04.22 – Hour 4
The press bitched so hard that the upcoming hearing
has been opened to the public.
... police discovered 4 firearms in the vehicle– 2 handguns and 2 rifles.It is a crime to be in possession of a firearm while intoxicated,but the police are claiming that the guns were unloaded.
Even Turtle Boy prints the same crap information as the MSM about gun laws.
It's illegal to carry or have under your control in a vehicle
a loaded handgun when under the influence.
So it's obvious why the cops are saying the guns were unloaded.
State Police troopers typically have their own cruiser that they take home after their shift. Many of them patrol large districts so it doesn't make sense for them to go back to the barracks at the end of their shift and leave the cruiser there. They often don't go to the barracks at the start of their shift either.Wait a minute. What is a "personal cruiser"? Does he have a "personal police force"?
So, who supervises or oversees them?State Police troopers typically have their own cruiser that they take home after their shift. Many of them patrol large districts so it doesn't make sense for them to go back to the barracks at the end of their shift and leave the cruiser there. They often don't go to the barracks at the start of their shift either.
Police forces in small towns and cities typically don't have take home cruisers, but they are typical for state police forces.
Lost his license so that’s a start.Yahbut what others scenarios besides moving in with the gun
are going to pass the sniff test if a judge or prosecutor starts asking questions?
They're saying it's improper storage - not improper transport or drunk carry.
Improper storage doesn't have "loaded" as an element of the crime.
You can store guns loaded in Massachusetts.
It takes a special kind of gun owner to not store any loaded.
So how is that going to take any wind out of any sails?
The heavy lifting the prosecution has to do is to convince the court
that there is such a concept as "too drunk to control".
I don't recall having heard that one on here before.
I would love to hear the defense ask the officers whether,
if they had a reasonable suspicion that the son
was armed, and posed a danger to them,
they would have been permitted under Terry v. Ohio
to temporarily confiscate all of the guns during the traffic stop.
If so, they've just made it harder to prove they weren't under control.
If not, they've cast all of their testimony in doubt,
because they'd be the first cops on the planet to let a
dangerous car occupant sit next to a pile of guns.
(Probably a stack of pistol cases strewn in the passenger footwell).
Predictions:
If the fix is in, the judge will just say, "sorry, no sale",
and viola the case is broomed.
If they want to take the son down,
the court will turn a deaf ear to any defense protestations
about "too drunk to control",
and the guy is dead meat.
Why, yes; as a matter of fact, he does:
Christopher Mason To Be Next Head Of Massachusetts State Police
Christopher Mason will be the next head of the Massachusetts State Police, Governor Baker announced Wednesday.www.cbsnews.com
So, who supervises or oversees them?
Has to be only suspended.Lost his license so that’s a start.
News flash: he's repeating what a government spokesman said.got to scream at the radio today as Howie Carr was ranting about the "unregistered" Glock.
How he got to where he is today being wrong as often as he is always amazes me
A supervisor at the barracks. Plus their cruisers are now tracked by GPS.So, who supervises or oversees them?
That’s funny.So, who supervises or oversees them?
0A car with 5 (?) guns and a pack with ammo, the kid is passed out or nearly so and hanging out of the car in the parking lot of bar? what should the revocation time period be; 2/5/10/20 years ?, lifetime??
So he was DUI, intoxicated while in the possession of a weapon, not having full control of the weapon, improper storage. He gets to walk and with a suspended CC which he will gain back. Anyone else would be in lockup and waiting for the judge. He got the clerk to drive 2 hours to hear his special case. Yeah nothing to see here folks.
Yes. I don't hold the victims of crime responsible for the actions of criminals.Had the guns/ammo been stolen from the vehicle would you have the same response?
I know of an unconnected civilian who drew a 2 year CWOF for improper storage in his vehicle on university property. He even got his LTC back without a fight.So he was DUI, intoxicated while in the possession of a weapon, not having full control of the weapon, improper storage. He gets to walk and with a suspended CC which he will gain back. Anyone else would be in lockup and waiting for the judge. He got the clerk to drive 2 hours to hear his special case. Yeah nothing to see here folks.
Yes. I don't hold the victims of crime responsible for the actions of criminals.
Being a victim of theft is not enabling.Incredible that you would excuse those who enable criminals in obtaining handguns/rifles and ammo.
When I was in Lubbock TX for interviews with TI, I saw cars on-campus at Texas Tech with long guns hanging in the back windows of pickup trucks. Perfectly legal back then (1970s).Incredible that you would excuse those who enable criminals in obtaining handguns/rifles and ammo.
I’m dumbfounded by how he got out of DUI in conjunction with the weapons. Anyone else would not be as lucky.I know of an unconnected civilian who drew a 2 year CWOF for improper storage in his vehicle on university property. He even got his LTC back without a fight.
Perhaps not all cops are so aggressive as to give a DUI to someone in a parked car sleeping it off.I’m dumbfounded by how he got out of DUI in conjunction with the weapons. Anyone else would not be as lucky.
Do you have a site or source for the shopping mall claim? I have no information on this and am interested in learning, or is this covered under a binding signage law? At one point any public facilities banning guns had to provide the ability to check guns while visiting. The one man think tank formerly from MA made an issue of this trying to check his gun at a public library in AZ.When I was in Lubbock TX for interviews with TI, I saw cars on-campus at Texas Tech with long guns hanging in the back windows of pickup trucks. Perfectly legal back then (1970s).
I have a friend in the Phoenix area who's had 2 handguns (different times) stolen from his glovebox while in shopping centers. It's illegal in AZ to carry into a shopping mall, so damn near everyone leaves their handgun (loaded is legal) in their glovebox. Thieves merely break car windows, reach into gloveboxes and figure on scoring a handgun. Police reports and insurance, but no crime and no big deal.
So, you'd want to prosecute those folks for following the law.
What does that "D" in "DUI" stand for again?Perhaps not all cops are so aggressive as to give a DUI to someone in a parked car sleeping it off.
How about we punish criminals who steal from people, rather than their victims?Incredible that you would excuse those who enable criminals in obtaining handguns/rifles and ammo.
In Mass you do not have to be driving. In the car under the influence , keys in the ignition. That’s DUIWhat does that "D" in "DUI" stand for again?