Moving to NH

The only thing NH doesn't have going for it is affordability. If you want to trade off a few percentage points of moonbatitude for a lot of cost savings there's also Maine.

I'll disagree on the affordability. The only thing I've found to be more $ is propane and my coffee. Our real estate taxes are $150 less than they were in MA.
The people are nicer and more courteous here. Beer and wine can be bought where you buy groceries and my beer costs $3 less/12 pack. [smile]
Many different beers and other beverages available as there is no Approved List here like there is in MA.

We both find it much less stressful in NH also.

And gas is 0.20-0.25 cents less per gallon than MA and I know it should be ~0.40 less than NY prices.
 
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And gas is 0.20-0.25 cents less per gallon than MA and I know it should be ~0.40 less than NY prices.

You're lucky right now, although it depends on where you're filling up. Nominally, most of the time, gas is slightly more expensive in NH... but its usually not enough to be a huge difference. I mean, most places in NH are going to be cheaper, for example, than ANYWHERE in Boston or Cambridge selling gas.... but Fitchburg gas is cheaper than most places I go to in NH.

-Mike
 
I'll disagree on the affordability. The only thing I've found to be more $ is propane and my coffee. Our real estate taxes are $150 less than they were in MA.
The people are nicer and more courteous here. Beer and wine can be bought where you buy groceries and my beer costs $3 less/12 pack. [smile]
Many different beers and other beverages available as there is no Approved List here like there is in MA.

We both find it much less stressful in NH also.

And gas is 0.20-0.25 cents less per gallon than MA and I know it should be ~0.40 less than NY prices.
Taxes vary wildly from town to town. Do your research. Stay away from S. NH. Taxes are higher as well as the crime. I've been trying to get the f out of Manch for years now.
Although I do have a nice house for sale! [wink] Nice and small for retired folks.
I guess its all in what your looking for. The farther north you got, the lower the taxes and crime (for the most part) but less jobs.
Find a happy medium.
 
My parents lived North of Concord NH for 29 years, best part of NH in my book, they lived in Easton Valley, just south of Franconia. I am keeping an eye out for a place even North of that area..... I got my first CC Permit at 18 in NH....kind of still brings tears to my eyes [wink]
 
I wouldn't say Maine has alot of cost savings over NH. Less jobs, lower wages in general, income tax, sales tax, and depending on where you are, property tax is a toss up.

Don't get me wrong, it's a great place. I grew up there but moved to NH for the aforementioned reasons.

This... NH needs more people like you. There are more jobs as well.
 
I think my thread has been hijacked! LOL I have been looking online in Webster,Warner,Bradford,Newbury including Moultonborough. Any insight to these areas? Looking spend about .400k. Whoever said that I should not bring any liberal baggage with me obviously missed my original post. I am leaving NY for a reaso. Why would I bring it with me.
 
Helpful map of which towns /counties in NH voted for Obama

Your requirement of +20 acres of "usable" land is going to limit options, especially with the need for "good schools". How far out into the boonies are you willing to go?

Yup... Yes I know it went Blue but really there's no comparison.
Obama won NH by about 40K votes, and the detailed results show that it's not really S.NH you need to worry about:
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I've posted this map in another thread in a larger size.
 
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400K will buy you a very nice house in NH!
Those are all good places. Money doesn't seem to be an issue so taxes won't bother you much. If it does, ossippee. tamworth and meredith all have low taxes.
Lots of summer folks in those areas though. I'm not sure what the school systems are like in any of those areas.
Meredith is my favorite just for ease of access to the highway. Business concerns for me though.
 
You're more than welcome here in NH. I'll suggest Cheshire County since I have moved here. We need to increase the number of freedom loving people around Cynthia Chase, just to piss her off. If you're serious about moving here and about living free, I recommend you first join freestateproject.org; take the pledge to move to NH (either now or when they give the "go time" signal for the 20,000 to move), then move here, then update your address there as having moved. I'll be at their Liberty Forum next month, and I plan on future participation with the organization (other than the move I already did).

Here's a list of FSP's reasons to move to NH: http://freestateproject.org/101Reasons

20 acres may be a bit tricky to find, but if you do it you'll want to make use of the "current use" tax break for leaving most of your land covered with trees.

NH property taxes are very expensive. If you move here, it would be good if you can keep the cost of your home down as much as possible. If your goal is a $400,000 house, you'll be quite horrified by the taxes. It is not impossible to find a good home in the $100,000 around here, especially if you can work out the details of a short sale (I could not).

Rural Maine (I especially like western Maine) is a good choice if employment is not an issue. Property taxes are relatively low (despite what many there complain about -- if they only realized how good they have it), and land/houses are cheap. But, the economy sucks. Its as if the Maine government is on purposely trying to make the state so undesirable for businesses that they all leave or go out of business.
 
My wife and I are both concerned about the move to NH. We feel that the leftist Kooks have alot of influence in politics there. We got even more concerned after Obamas win in NH. How did that happen????? We are also considering TN,SD. We love NH and the northeast climate but we are nervous that over time NH may get more leftist big gov't Kooks .This is a big move for us as we both have spent our whole lives in NY and watched NY go down the drain.We only one to move once and make thr right choice the first time around. Are my concerns legitimate or is NH gov't still very liberty minded and the kooks really will not get the changes they want. I will fight for what I believe in but in NY it is a lost battle.
 
If the leftist kooks had taken over NH, we would have sales tax and income tax just like the rest of New England. We don't.

Don't confuse national politics for state and local when it comes to NH. The presidential choice has almost nothing to do with politics inside the state.
 
If the leftist kooks had taken over NH, we would have sales tax and income tax just like the rest of New England. We don't.

Don't confuse national politics for state and local when it comes to NH. The presidential choice has almost nothing to do with politics inside the state.


I don't live in NH so take my opinion/question with a grain of salt. From the outside looking in, how does one not correlate a states vote for president to the general ideology of the people? Are you saying that the people of NH voted for Obama but they do not share his political views? It seems like there are 3 area where NH differs greatly from MA and they are immigration, entitlement programs and gun rights. Of the 3, gun rights seem to be the only one that you can say the people are truly for. Immigration and entitlement programs aren't as prevalent in NH so they aren't big issues. Therefore I don't think we can say with great certainty that they wouldn't be more like MA if they had more immigrants and more folks in need of government assistance.
 
My wife and I are both concerned about the move to NH. We feel that the leftist Kooks have alot of influence in politics there. We got even more concerned after Obamas win in NH. How did that happen????? We are also considering TN,SD. We love NH and the northeast climate but we are nervous that over time NH may get more leftist big gov't Kooks .This is a big move for us as we both have spent our whole lives in NY and watched NY go down the drain.We only one to move once and make thr right choice the first time around. Are my concerns legitimate or is NH gov't still very liberty minded and the kooks really will not get the changes they want. I will fight for what I believe in but in NY it is a lost battle.

If your concerned then find a place to rent (you can find single family homes for rent, a couple months back I saw a 5 bdrm 2000sqft house renting for $1600/ month in LEE. That may sound like a lot but that is half the cost my parents pay for their house in the same town that has about the same amount of space and less bedrooms. And you don't gotta pay for repairs to boot!).
 
I've been talking to this guy. http://porcupinerealestate.com/

He's a liberty-oriented guy. I'm leaning more toward Maine, though. But I'm losing confidence in the northeast US. Moonbats are everywhere.

I concur with the statement above. PS. This guy also happens to be one of the best State Reps we have on gun rights. Give your business to those who work to help restore our gun rights.
 
Offer accepted on a NH property. Will be happily finishing the transaction in coming weeks. Will be selling two very successful companies, 5 rental units, our house, which I made with my own two hands into a dream home. Complete with vehicle lift in large two story detached garage among other hugely loved amenities. This is the cost of freedom as far as my family sees it. This is what is going to motivate me once in NH to make sure it will never happen to my children. Having everything they have worked their whole lives for become a sacrificial necessity for a better, more free way of life. Is a bitter sweet feeling. Once there. I will seek to find the most impact-full avenue of influence in state govt the people will allow me to have. I will make sure that when families decide to move to NH in search of freedoms they have lost elsewhere, they do not find them. Instead the freedoms will find these families because of their abundance it will be undeniable so.
 
I have been talking about moving to NH for a while to get away from the Communist State of NY. Now with the new laws I am definately going. I have a wife and kids and like NH small gov't and restricted gov't so that is a big reason for the move. I am a little concerned about all the leftist socialist that are in NH with their MA style politics and influence. I realize NH is way ahead of NY but is there a better state to go to or am I worrying over nothing. I need good schools and are looking for at leat 20 acres oif useable land. Any input would be great.

Didn't read the whole thread, but check out www.city-data.com. Lots of data there.

And welcome to NES.
 
Offer accepted on a NH property. Will be happily finishing the transaction in coming weeks. Will be selling two very successful companies, 5 rental units, our house, which I made with my own two hands into a dream home. Complete with vehicle lift in large two story detached garage among other hugely loved amenities. This is the cost of freedom as far as my family sees it. This is what is going to motivate me once in NH to make sure it will never happen to my children. Having everything they have worked their whole lives for become a sacrificial necessity for a better, more free way of life. Is a bitter sweet feeling. Once there. I will seek to find the most impact-full avenue of influence in state govt the people will allow me to have. I will make sure that when families decide to move to NH in search of freedoms they have lost elsewhere, they do not find them. Instead the freedoms will find these families because of their abundance it will be undeniable so.

What area of NH are you heading into?

IMO, the general attitude of people in NH (even as close to MA as I am) is a ton better. People seem more willing to be nice to people, instead of looking for any chance to be a ma**h***.

You planning to run for an office in NH?
 
Offer accepted on a NH property. Will be happily finishing the transaction in coming weeks. Will be selling two very successful companies, 5 rental units, our house, which I made with my own two hands into a dream home. Complete with vehicle lift in large two story detached garage among other hugely loved amenities. This is the cost of freedom as far as my family sees it...

I understand.

Mine: My family (on my father's mother's side) has been in my hometown in Connecticut since around 1698. My family and I are being driven out, by what Connecticut and our town have become. We're moving to a nice town in the Whites that reminds me a lot of what my town was like when I was growing up. (Truth be told: its population is closer to that of my town's when my parents were young. Even better.)
 
Looking at Alstead.

As far as office run. I'm am definitely going to form an exploratory commission. (My wife and I)

I'm in a small town I absolutely love! Lowest taxes. Best school. I live in the woods. But Ma is just destroying our hopes. Plus, my history is in economics / finance. I'm very concerned about the economic storm coming. I truly believe without major ( unprecedented ) intervention we are going to have a major reset.
 
The one "nice problem to have" with running for office, is that the current office holders can share the same political outlook. That's my problem. I figure if one decides to retire, I'll be more motivated to start the legwork for an actual campaign.

Depends on where you're headed.
 
Don't come to Maine it sucks really bad. The food is aweful, the pay is nothing, the jobs all suck, the housing is old and smelly, the ground sucks for raising crops, the rivers don't have any real fish in thm, the gun laws suck, housing and groceries are high, the hospitals and schools are staffed by idiots, the taxes are really high, the state house is run by dems, the roads are full of pot holes, the electric only works sometimes, the deer all died 4 winters ago, the small game all got et by the coydogs, the trees stopped running sap during the depression, the ocean and lakes are frozen solid 60% of the time, the beaches are rocky, when the ocean is not frozen the temp is only 52, the winters are long, hard, and did I say long, none of the roads ever get plowed either, did I mention the winters are long and there is a lot of snow to shovel, the gun stores are all run by thieves, the cars all need a paint job, the stores sell cloths 5 years out of fashion, the malls are small, the police are corrupt, the politcians are all on the take, the mafia owns all the pizza places and the pizza all sucks, the women are ugly, chain smoke, are fat and are ex-convicts, did I mention the winters are long and very very cold and finally it just is not place for a real man to live.

Stay in MA or move to NH. If I could and when I get out of jail, that is where I am moving.
 
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Perhaps New Hampshire went to Obama because NH voters realized Romney sucks?

I don't live in NH so take my opinion/question with a grain of salt. From the outside looking in, how does one not correlate a states vote for president to the general ideology of the people? Are you saying that the people of NH voted for Obama but they do not share his political views?
It isn't like the election went unanimously to Obama -- Romney lost New Hampshire by a margin of 40,659. Obama won with 368,529 to Romney’s 327,870. The republican party overall made a number of missteps, Romney was widely seen as being anti-gay, anti-women, anti-abortion, and (based on his record in Massachusetts) quite possibly anti-gun as well.

It seems like there are 3 area where NH differs greatly from MA and they are immigration, entitlement programs and gun rights.
Really? Narrowing the differences between the concerns of people in NH and MA to three issues? Those three?
 
I don't live in NH so take my opinion/question with a grain of salt. From the outside looking in, how does one not correlate a states vote for president to the general ideology of the people? Are you saying that the people of NH voted for Obama but they do not share his political views? It seems like there are 3 area where NH differs greatly from MA and they are immigration, entitlement programs and gun rights. Of the 3, gun rights seem to be the only one that you can say the people are truly for. Immigration and entitlement programs aren't as prevalent in NH so they aren't big issues. Therefore I don't think we can say with great certainty that they wouldn't be more like MA if they had more immigrants and more folks in need of government assistance.

Look at MA, Deval is the first democrat governor in how long? Big elections mean jack, its the general make up of the people that is represented in the house.

We also had a guy that moved to NH from the south in Concord today as part of the FSP. He was quick to clear up that though southern states may seem great for conservatives, he illustrated the point that national election results do not translate locally. Look at what Virginia just introduced for a mag ban.

And what does national politics mean anymore? The republican nominee signed in gay marriage, a healthcare mandate, and an AWB... it's all crap.

Disturbingly, there you cant trust republicans with gun rights anymore than you can democrats... and without pro 2a democrats we'd be in real bad shape.
 
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