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Dude, its from MA to NHYou'll be denied as unsuitable, since you've obviously lost your damn mind moving from NH to MA.
There is no law that states that an LTC becomes invalid when you move out of the state. Now, if do the proper notifications, and the chief revokes your LTC and notifies you of such, that's a different story.
I think a cop would have a difficult time justifying an arrest for carrying without an LTC when you have an LTC. BUT... It's not beyond comprehension.
There is no law that states that an LTC becomes invalid when you move out of the state. Now, if do the proper notifications, and the chief revokes your LTC and notifies you of such, that's a different story.
So for a few thousand dollars, I'll be happy to explain the above to the judge.
What you really need to figure out is how important is it to you to carry in Massachusetts before you receive your non-resident LTC? If you argue that you were not carrying without an LTC and lose, I bet I could get Comm2A to pay for your appeal, while you're sitting in jail for 18 months.
Well, that's what I get for posting in the middle of a nap. :/Dude, its from MA to NH
What if you notified and then the chief or EOPS does none of the above? I've known like 3 people that moved out and did the "good little boy" thing and never got any kind of a notice from
either the state or their old chief, outside of their certified mail receipts. Awhile ago at least one other person here (I forget the user offhand) said that they did it and their resident LTC still passed validation some months later... I suspect that EOPS is intentionally not killing off the licenses quickly or at all and just letting them expire, because they don't want someone using this as a wallhack to town-shop their way out of a shitty issuing authority and a restricted license. Either that or its just out of laziness/inefficiency on their part.
-Mike
There is also the issue of getting busted in Mass for CCW with a expired Mass LTC after you move to NH.
I believe it is a civil offense if you are busted.
However, that would probably make you unsuitable if you ever try to apply for a non-res LTC.
I think you should apply for a non-res LTC after you move to NH.
That way you'll be in the clear and save a few grand in legal fees.
In Firearms Records Bureau v.Simkin the SJC determined that some elements of c. 140 s. 131 are applicable to non-resident licenses issued pursuant to c. 140 s. 131F. The SJC specifically ruled that suitability does apply to non-residents. The SJC ruled that some of the difference in the non-resident licensing process are effectively variations.There is no suitability clause for a non-res LTC.
I believe, technically, it's may issue, but appeals are handled by the FRB, not the district court, which is far better at following the actual law.
So it's actually a better situation, in some ways, to be a non-res.
But I agree, just get the non-res LTC.
The first paragraph of § 131 reads: "All licenses to carry firearms shall be designated Class A or Class B, and the issuance and possession of any such license shall be subject to the following conditions and restrictions: . . ." (emphasis added). The plain language of the first paragraph thus strongly suggests that § 131 applies to all licenses to carry firearms, including
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those issued to nonresidents. The first paragraph also makes clear that all licenses are designated either Class A or B, and that "any such license" -- in other words, any license to carry firearms in Massachusetts -- is subject to the conditions imposed by § 131. Meanwhile, although § 131F provides that "[a] Class A or Class B temporary license to carry firearms . . . may be issued . . . to a nonresident," § 131F does not define what is meant by either "Class A" or "Class B." Rather, those terms are defined only in § 131. See G. L. c. 140, § 131 (a) & (b). The clear implication is that a license like Simkin's -- a Class A temporary nonresident license to carry firearms -- is "subject to the . . . conditions and restrictions" imposed by § 131, in addition to being subject to the provisions unique to temporary nonresident licenses imposed by § 131F.
An interpretation that subjects all licenses, including temporary nonresident licenses, to the suitable person requirement set forth in § 131 (f) is consistent with "[t]he goal of firearms control legislation in Massachusetts [, which] is to limit access to deadly weapons by irresponsible persons." Ruggiero v. Police Comm'r of Boston,
I moved out of state for school and my LTC still comes up as valid, though I'm not sure what I have to do about renewal.
The test there would be is your move for school temporary?
Where are you registered to vote, drivers license, etc.
Did you send in your change of address?I changed my voting and drivers license to out of state since i was going to be gone for a few years, as well as to make getting an LTC here easier, but i intend to return to MA post grad.