Most Restrictive MA LCF towns - for real?

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Packing.org lists a number of cities and towns where All Lawful Purposes LCF are considered "impossible" or "almost impossible" to obtain.

Boston, for example, is difficult but small business owners and some are granted them - it's not "impossible". Are there any towns that flat won't issue them?

The towns I've heard to be very difficult are Cambridge and Watertown. Do you have first hand knowledge of these cities and towns?

Packing lists Boston, Brookline, Brockton, Canton, Chicopee, Falmouth, Hatfield, Hudson, Newton, Pembroke, Springfield, Watertown, and Worcester.
 
I lived in Medford, and I was told when applying for my licence that they would only give me a Conceal Carry Permit if it was for work only, and they won't offer a ALP LTC. Having NO licence and a gun that was missing me up in Maine, I chose the easy route and got my LTC: Target and Hunting Only 30 days later. But now that I moved to Belmont I'm going over to the police station this week and see how much of a pain they're going to make it for me to get an ALP.

Worse yet this was in March, and Medford gave me the oldshcool HUGE LTC permit....so I kinda want my wallet to FOLD.

I'll post on what the Police tell me.

-Weer'd Beard
 
Forgot Quincy. Cheif Crowley doesn't like ALP. He's been down-grading people that have had licenses for years from ALP to restricted. I know a guy that DRIVES AN AMORED CAR for a living and was denied for no known reason. He's in line for litigation, but the line is 3 digits deep, he says.
 
MidKnight said:
Forgot Quincy. Cheif Crowley doesn't like ALP. He's been down-grading people that have had licenses for years from ALP to restricted. I know a guy that DRIVES AN AMORED CAR for a living and was denied for no known reason. He's in line for litigation, but the line is 3 digits deep, he says.
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As of 2 weeks ago, reports from Quincy were that Crowley is bowing to all the pressure put on by GOAL (you know, the org that many claims does nothing for gun owners) and Don Kusser (GOAL-BOD) in particular. According to Don, those that go up for renewals are getting LTC-A/ALP now, some are applying for upgrades to LTC-A/ALP currently. Newbies are still being screwed by the chief with lesser, restricted permits. Therefore, GOAL is still keeping the pressure on the chief thru the mayor and the city council.
 
As of 2 weeks ago, reports from Quincy were that Crowley is bowing to all the pressure put on by GOAL
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I've got a little extra money in the bank at the moment. If I haven't signed up for a GOAL membership by this weekend, someone yell at me.
 
Jeremiah said:
As of 2 weeks ago, reports from Quincy were that Crowley is bowing to all the pressure put on by GOAL
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I've got a little extra money in the bank at the moment. If I haven't signed up for a GOAL membership by this weekend, someone yell at me.
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Does anyone have to yell Jeremiah?

:D
 
Jeez! You guys are observant!

OK. I'm in with GOAL for a year. Smart of them, allowing for online registration. I thought I would try to do it through my club (I remember hearing about some sort of benefit to them if I signed up through them), but, whatever. The guy I talked to at the club didn't know. Better to do it now. The Best is the enemy of the Good.
 
I joined GOAL months before I even applied for my license.

I'd rather send my hard-earned money to them than have the state take it from me to give it to illegal aliens in the form of college tuition breaks.

The preceding statement was brought to you today by the Department of the Friggin' Obvious.

[insert "Amen"s here]
 
mAss Backwards said:
I joined GOAL months before I even applied for my license.

I'd rather send my hard-earned money to them than have the state take it from me to give it to illegal aliens in the form of college tuition breaks.

The preceding statement was brought to you today by the Department of the Friggin' Obvious.

[insert "Amen"s here]
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I'm with the three above me.

The First thing that I did when I moved to MA from Ohio was join GOAL...urged on by my coworker. And I've said, that if I move out of MA, I will still belong to GOAL just because MA needs someone to do the fighting for them. Mainly because I feel that the NRA pretty much has written off states like MA and CA.
 
I see Hatfield listed on the first post. That's a joke. I grew up there, have had my "All Lawful Purposes" LTC since I was 18 (back before they changed the law), and Chief Hurley is one of the most pro-private gun ownership chiefs in MA. Although he's not really a "gun guy", he has absolutely no problem issueing a Class A ALP to anyone who is legally eligable for one.

In fact, he told me that he will not issue anything but ALP. For both his protection and the licensee's. He told me that if someone who he issued a license to commits a crime, and he's questioned about giving that person a license, all he has to say is he licensed them for "lawful" purposes, and not to break the law.

Simple, clear cut opinion that I wish more chiefs would have.

I don't know who does the Hatfield PD's website, but there is a very strict guideline for LTC's on there. That's probably where Packing.org got their inpression of Hatfield from. Reading it shocked me, too, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Chief (who is one of the only part-time Chiefs in MA) had nothing to do with it.

Hatfield is a great town to live in (and one I plan on moving back to sometime) and getting issued a Class A ALP is not an issue for anyone legal to get one. But, the Selectmen of Hatfield, in their infinate wisdom, feel they need a full-time Chief. I guess things are running too smoothly in the PD, and they want to stick their noses in something so they can mess it up like they have everything else. So, the search has begun for a full-time chief, and only time will tell what they end up with. They did offer the full-time position to Chief Hurley, but he's not willing to leave his current full-time position (where he is close to retirement, and an excellent federal pension!) and declined the job.

As an example of the idiotic things the Selectmen of Hatfield do, how about the DARE Youth Center? They have just voted to close the center, which is used by the children in town extensively, so the firemen could have a "clubhouse" to hang out in. The youth center was something great for the town, since there's NOTHING to do in Hatfield. You'll see a lot more kids down on the riverbank or on the mountain drinking now. I guess the Selectmen decided they need to justify the full-time Chief by creating crime!

OK, maybe I'll move to VT, NH or ME instead of back to Hatfield!
 
A co-worker of mine works to get a first time gun permitand lives in North Quincy. He doesn't really need a LTC-ALP but I told him that he should at least apply for a pistol permit. He doesn't think he would ever own a gun but wants to be covered when he comes shooting with me. And I guess there is always a possibility down the road. What is he in for? Is it going to be a waste of his time?
 
wchandler, he can carry OC. And maybe he'll change his mind. I don't know how MA is for normal LTC's, but I know Class III license I've been told if you don't buy something after you get it and you try to renew they may not renew you.
 
wchandler said:
A co-worker of mine works to get a first time gun permitand lives in North Quincy. He doesn't really need a LTC-ALP but I told him that he should at least apply for a pistol permit. He doesn't think he would ever own a gun but wants to be covered when he comes shooting with me. And I guess there is always a possibility down the road. What is he in for? Is it going to be a waste of his time?
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Wayne, the "freshest" info available on Quincy will be from Don Kusser, VP of BR&P and GOAL BOD Member as well as "thorn in the side" of the current chief and mayor. [wink]

When you attend the New Member Orientation, Don will be there . . . ask him and tell him I sent you.

Quincy has been "blowing hot and cold" wrt permits. He'll get a LTC-A, but wrt restrictions Don will know best "which way the wind is blowing" at the moment he talks with you.
 
I've been with GOAL about 6 months now. Any chance of getting them to come to Lowell and make Chief Lavallee an offer he can't refuse to start issuing ALP?
My renewed H&T license is only a month old, but I would re-apply if I could get ALP.
 
Hudson sucked in the 90's

News Shooter said:
It seems strange they would be in that category as there is a gun store there and one of the largest gun clubs. I wonder if packing.org's information is anecdotal
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I can't speak to the current situation, but I know in the late 90's the Hudson COP was only issuing 'Target and Hunting' LTC-As. Maybe things have improved.
 
Hudson ..is OK now

Oh and Worcester is not OUT.....Personal Protect is what you get...just don't hold your breath waiting...it may be 4-6 months to get it!
 
hudson ma.

met a couple of guys at IDPA practice last summer, from what
he said the hudson pd would only issue him a restricted class A.

There may be some issues here, but i'm not aware of them..

JimB
 
Cambridge is doable for an unrestricted. I was out of work and applied for a job at an armored car company (sounded like fun at the time I guess). The company said I needed an unrestricted LTC. I asked if they would write a letter to that affect. The lady said sure, come back tomorrow. Re-applied for my license with the letter and Bongeorno put it right through!
 

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