More than 10 people killed in Nova Scotia rampage

[Waher]

RCMP officer among 17 confirmed dead in Nova Scotia killing spree, deadliest in Canadian history

RCMP say 17 people are dead, including one of their officers, after a man who at one point wore a police uniform and drove a mock-up cruiser went on a rampage across northern Nova Scotia in one of the deadliest killing sprees in Canadian history.

www.cp24.com

16 killed in shooting rampage, deadliest in Canadian history

TORONTO (AP) — A gunman disguised as a police officer shot people in their homes and set fires in a rampage across the Canadian province of Nova Scotia that killed 16 people, the deadliest such attack in the country’s history.

apnews.com

A 51-year-old man went on a shooting rampage across the northern part of the Canadian province of Nova Scotia Sunday, killing at least 10 people, including a policewoman. Officials said the suspected shooter was also dead.

The man was identified as Gabriel Wortman and authorities said he disguised himself as a police officer in uniform at one point and mocked up a car to make it seem like a Royal Canadian Mounted Police cruiser.

He was arrested by the RCMP in a gas station in Enfield, Nova Scotia, northwest of downtown Halifax. Police later announced that he had died.

“In excess of 10 people have been killed,” RCMP Chief Superintendent Chris Leather said. “We believe it to be one person who is responsible for all the killings and that he alone moved across the northern part of the province and committed what appears to be several homicides.”

 

[DJBrad]

Just saw this story and knew someone would be posting it. This clown was a Denturist, someone who makes dentures. My guess is financial troubles+ brought on by the Wuflu shutdown.

http://nsdenturistsociety.ca/mt-content/uploads/2020/04/covid-19-update-released-april-3-2020.pdf

 

[SpaceCritter]

Just saw this story and knew someone would be posting it. This clown was a Denturist, someone who makes dentures. My guess is financial troubles+ brought on by the Wuflu shutdown.

http://nsdenturistsociety.ca/mt-content/uploads/2020/04/covid-19-update-released-april-3-2020.pdf

Expect more of the same.
And suicides.
And ODs.
And treatable stuff going untreated.
And...

A couple week shutdown to assess and respond is one thing. What they're doing now is beyond insanity. The courts need to intervene at this point to declare the major emergency is over, and executive actions null and void.

 

[Picton]

A couple week shutdown to assess and respond is one thing. What they're doing now is beyond insanity. The courts need to intervene at this point to declare the major emergency is over, and executive actions null and void.

The courts can't intervene unless someone pushes a case against a governor. Go for it!

 

[DJBrad]

Expect more of the same.
And suicides.
And ODs.
And treatable stuff going untreated.
And...

A couple week shutdown to assess and respond is one thing. What they're doing now is beyond insanity. The courts need to intervene at this point to declare the major emergency is over, and executive actions null and void.

Yup. People will snap like Michael Douglas but without the automatic weapons.

 

[Picton]

Yup. People will snap like Michael Douglas but without the automatic weapons.

Good reference.

Nice to see you're still posting, rather than falling down with fatigue.

 

[appraiser]

wait.... doesn't Canada have a ban on almost all guns?

 

[SpaceCritter]

The courts can't intervene unless someone pushes a case against a governor. Go for it!

In TwoShits, maybe. Once again, you're not the only jurisdiction involved here, much as you people seem to think you're the center of the universe.

 

[Picton]

In TwoShits, maybe. Once again, you're not the only jurisdiction involved here, much as you people seem to think you're the center of the universe.

I'm not sure what you mean.

In ANY state, courts don't act unilaterally. They rule on motions and suits, brought by citizens with standing. Feel free to file one in your jurisdiction, or federally if you think your chances will be any better right now. But that's why I said " a governor," not "Charlie Baker."

You're looking for an injunction. You have to ask for one before a court will issue it, and even then the court can't enforce it.

 

[DJBrad]

wait.... doesn't Canada have a ban on almost all guns?

They do still get contemporary Norincos and can also posses sawed off shotguns.

 

[SpaceCritter]

I'm not sure what you mean.

In ANY state, courts don't act unilaterally. They rule on motions and suits, brought by citizens with standing. Feel free to file one in your jurisdiction, or federally if you think your chances will be any better right now. But that's why I said " a governor," not "Charlie Baker."

Nope, they can also be brought against regulatory agencies, if it's the actions of those agencies causing the grief.

That said, yes, expect to see cases filed. Even against the governors. Their emergency powers are NOT unlimited, and when their exercise of those powers is causing undue and undeniable harm, it is well within the court's jurisdiction to curb it.

 

[DJBrad]

Good reference.

Nice to see you're still posting, rather than falling down with fatigue.

I’m wondering how Zoom classrooms with Dracut students is going for you. Hope you’re doing well.

 

[SpaceCritter]

As I've said before, if this thing extends past May 1, expect bedlam.

 

[Picton]

Nope, they can also be brought against regulatory agencies, if it's the actions of those agencies causing the grief.

That said, yes, expect to see cases filed. Even against the governors. Their emergency powers are NOT unlimited, and when their exercise of those powers is causing undue and undeniable harm, it is well within the court'

Okay.

But you're missing my point, perhaps intentionally; I can't tell. Whether it's against an elected official, a regulatory agency, or the King of Siam, the complaint has to be filed BY SOMEONE. Someone like you. Step up, citizen! That's if you think it'll work; I do not.

I’m wondering how Zoom classrooms with Dracut students is going for you. Hope you’re doing well.

Wrong town; I only shoot there. I don't shoot where I teach!

Zoom classes work. Marginally. It's not ideal, especially for kids who need extra attention.

 

[DJBrad]

Okay.

But you're missing my point, perhaps intentionally; I can't tell. Whether it's against an elected official, a regulatory agency, or the King of Siam, the complaint has to be filed BY SOMEONE. Someone like you. Step up, citizen! That's if you think it'll work; I do not.



Wrong town; I only shoot there. I don't shoot where I teach!

Zoom classes work. Marginally. It's not ideal, especially for kids who need extra attention.

Gotcha. I remember seeing “teacher” and “Dracut” thus I making an assumption. Sorry! Guns near schools are anathema for sure ‘round these parts.

 

[SpaceCritter]

Okay.

But you're missing my point, perhaps intentionally; I can't tell. Whether it's against an elected official, a regulatory agency, or the King of Siam, the complaint has to be filed BY SOMEONE. Someone like you. Step up, citizen! That's if you think it'll work; I do not.

It's already starting.

Attorney suing Lamont: Order to wear masks ‘pushed me over the edge’

The Stamford lawyer contends the governor’s order infringes on individual liberties.

www.ctpost.com

I don't necessarily agree with the particulars of this case. Nevertheless it's starting.

If it doesn't get resolved in the courts, the wholesale killing WILL begin. May 1. People have had enough.

 

[Picton]

Nobody wants that Lamont suit to succeed more than I do.

But I doubt it will.

 

[SpaceCritter]

Nobody wants that Lamont suit to succeed more than I do.

But I doubt it will.

I'm going to be very blunt. If this doesn't stop by May 1, hell will break loose. Seriously. The courts will be COMPELLED to deal with it, one way or the other.

If they don't curb it... in days past, I had a .sig here that spoke favorably of crucifixion. That may come to pass.

 

[Cap'n Mike]

Domestics seem to be up near me, as well as overdoses.

 

[DJBrad]

Me? I can’t let stress get to me.
I’m building a wall.

 

[Picton]

I'm going to be very blunt. If this doesn't stop by May 1, hell will break loose. Seriously. The courts will be COMPELLED to deal with it, one way or the other.

If they don't curb it... in days past, I had a .sig here that spoke favorably of crucifixion. That may come to pass.

Who knows? Perhaps you're right, but I doubt you are. As I posted similarly in response to some other poster in one of the forty threads about Covid, I have MUCH less faith than you do in the ability of "the American People" to rise up and do... anything.

I hope I'm wrong, in a way. But there is a disquietingly large proportion of humanity (which you don't count yourself among, I'm aware) that is very, very comfortable being told what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. They seem to love that shit. I don't get it either, but those people aren't likely to rise up and cause "hell" to "break loose."

So.

A shooting in Nova Scotia, you say?

 

[SpaceCritter]

Who knows? Perhaps you're right, but I doubt you are. As I posted similarly in response to some other poster in one of the forty threads about Covid, I have MUCH less faith than you do in the ability of "the American People" to rise up and do... anything.

I hope I'm wrong, in a way. But there is a disquietingly large proportion of humanity (which you don't count yourself among, I'm aware) that is very, very comfortable being told what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. They seem to love that shit. I don't get it either, but those people aren't likely to rise up and cause "hell" to "break loose."

So.

A shooting in Nova Scotia, you say?

They're already "in the streets" over this, so we'll see if it escalates to nailing politicians to trees. Out of work for too long, it will.

 

[Picton]

I am hoping that the courts address the "Internment of the American people" (aka Korematsu v. United States) before someone in a state like Michigan takes things into their own hands

Uhh...

...okay.

Nothing about Korematsu is equivalent to this. We're not interned.

Again, I too want this to stop. But some of y'all are having judicial-branch fever-dreams that have zero basis in reality.

 

[SpaceCritter]

Uhh...

...okay.

Nothing about Korematsu is equivalent to this. We're not interned.

Again, I too want this to stop. But some of y'all are having judicial-branch fever-dreams that have zero basis in reality.

Then expect the bedlam come May 1.

 

[Picton]

We can bicker over literal/figuratively but nonetheless government/pols have unconstitutionally restricted everything from interstate commerce to a pile of other things

There are tens of millions of people that have had their livelyhoods robbed from them.....and all they're permitted to do is the equivalence of going to the PX and back

The internment analogy is valid.....we can bicker over the degree

Well, see, that's the thing. Courts don't work on analogies. They don't work on common sense, nor on fairness, nor even on "justice," whatever the hell that means these days. They work on precedent, and there is OOODLES of US case law (not to mention English common law, which our courts also use as precedent) affirming the government's ability to do all sorts of nasty, unconstitutional shit during times of crisis.

If you're going to go in against the courts loaded for bear, even here on an internet forum, you should be prepared to use something more compelling than your feels while "bickering."

 

[Picton]

Yes, courts work on precident

We're in uncharted water

This is where you’re incorrect.

Governments have been dealing with infections since forever. Courts have consistently backed them. There’s a substantial body of case law about this sort of thing.

Look, don’t take my word for it. We’ve been at this for over a month now. IF all this was as cut-and-dried as you seem to believe it is, then do you not think it would have been remedied at law by this time?

So either you’re right, and the courts have just been sitting around playing parcheesi all this time... or you’re wrong. Which you’ll never admit anyway.

 

[SpaceCritter]

This is where you’re incorrect.

Governments have been dealing with infections since forever. Courts have consistently backed them. There’s a substantial body of case law about this sort of thing.

Look, don’t take my word for it. We’ve been at this for over a month now. IF all this was as cut-and-dried as you seem to believe it is, then do you not think it would have been remedied at law by this time?

So either you’re right, and the courts have just been sitting around playing parcheesi all this time... or you’re wrong. Which you’ll never admit anyway.

But it's not unlimited. Presently they're PUSHING it far beyond even what was done in 1918. The courts can and will rein them in.

If not, they risk:

 

[Picton]

But it's not unlimited. Presently they're PUSHING it far beyond even what was done in 1918. The courts can and will rein them in.

...and, as I said, I’d love it if they did. But I don’t believe they will.

 

[Boris]

This is where you’re incorrect.

Governments have been dealing with infections since forever. Courts have consistently backed them. There’s a substantial body of case law about this sort of thing.

Look, don’t take my word for it. We’ve been at this for over a month now. IF all this was as cut-and-dried as you seem to believe it is, then do you not think it would have been remedied at law by this time?

So either you’re right, and the courts have just been sitting around playing parcheesi all this time... or you’re wrong. Which you’ll never admit anyway.

I am pretty confident that's exactly what they are doing, well, may be not pascheesi, probably just taking really long lunches, dinners and watching pornhub on the job.

I don't feel like there is anyone working hard to improving lives of peasants in this country, they just can't afford enough justice.

 

[Reptile]

Tragic.

I wonder if they are going to go after guns now?