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Just noticed this the other day, and had to post it.

Seen this in quite a few movies (Fight Club, and Collater immidiatly come to mind)

Hero trys a glass door to a sky-scraper/office, find the door locked. Desperate to get in he picks up a heavy object and trows it at the glass. The object bounces off because it's plexi. He then shoot the door and the glass turns to powder, and he walks through the vacant doorframe.

Dunno why I watched that so many times and never really thought about it.


Got any of yours to add?

Arrrr

-Weer'd Beard
 
Well, since Hollywood is full of fakes does it suprise you that they try and pass off such incredulous 'facts' to the general public?

All time favorite is the hollywood 6 shooter. You know, the one that looks like a revolver but carries more bullets than a Semi Auto w/ Hi Cap mags.
 
and of course the "Hollywood Facts" make it into the mainstream mind very quickly as Hard Facts.

I recently read an article in Men's Helth (I think it was a September issue...I'm rarely reading a current magazine 8) ) Where the author bought his first gun (a .22) and took it to the range.

Sadly the only "training" he eluded to was that the guy at the shop showed him the gun (how to load, how to clean, safites et al)

And he even startled himself with a downrainge shot, because he had forgotten how to work the safety, and was unsure if the chamber was loaded [roll] .

But then his attention was turned to some youths firing a .50 AE Desert Eagle downrange. He then eluded that the .50 AE was probably a close cousin to the .50 BMG in this bullshit statement.

"A .50 calibur bullet shot from the right gun can bring down an airliner in flight..." This is RIGHT after talking about the Desert Eagle.

I mean we have enugh bad press to work against with illigal guns on the streets, and people comiting suicide with handguns, and simple ignorant gun-handling/storage. We have to deal with blatant fiction (Like the AWB) that steams from public misconception due to Hollywood feeding us fertilizer.

BTW the article was actully not too bad....the author tried to stay as neutral on the topic as he could. But because he obviously wasn't a "gun nut" a few Lies that have been repeated enugh to become "facts" got under his radar.

Ok steam is coming out of my ears now. 8) .

Arrr

-Weer'd Beard
 
I'm glad I live in Mass where my family can still remain safe from them...unfortunetly my Parents in Maine will probably soon be hospitalized for bayonet wounds! [lol]

Arrrr

-Weer'd Beard
 
How many hollywood shots result in the bad guy flying backwards on impact?

How many hollywood guns NEVER miss their target even when they are clearly pointed off target? I especially love the person shooting two handguns at the same time and seeing them pointing all over, but manage to hit some tiny target to break it up into little pieces.

Or how about hollywood shots where you follow the bullet on some long distance shot and the trajectory is dead flat. Especially amusing when the shot is an arrow.

Or how about 'bulletime' shots where you see all kinds of vortex eddies formed by the bullets as if slowing time adds more visual detail?

And then there are the gun battles whee the good guys win, but there isn't a single seriously injured person on either side.

Or how about a shot in the upper chest/shoulder that just 'stings' a little.
 
there's one I haven't mentioned previously (and it gets a LOT of play in video games) is the 2 pistol shooting (AKA: "The John Woo Special" I'm amazed he knows so much about guns coming from a GFW country [roll] )

The fact that they hit thier targets....and aren't shredded by opposing fire and or dropping thier guns when they reload them!

That's just what I want to do durring a fire-fight, tuck a gun into my armpit while I reload the other one.


And of course my favorite that needs to be stated again. Fanning the hammer. I'm sure somebody who knew thier stuff started it with a double action revolver. (That switch to a "hair trigger" does speak volumes) but it really doesn't have the same meaning with a 1911, or any other single action automatic.

Another golide this the phantom "click" noise that ALL guns make when being drawn from the holster. What REALLY gets me you KNOW the director is having the sound guy add those clicks in from stock sounds. I mean I'm sure a mock-up sound supressor while shooting hot blanks will make a big muzzle flash. But the gotta see that these guns just don't click just 'cause..... [roll]

-Weer'd Beard
 
Ah, the phantom clicks. Hate them. Anytime somebody handles a gun, draws a gun, clears a room, or looks a gun funny, it clicks.

Worse than that for me tho, is the amazing amount of slide racking/pumping a shotgun at completely inappropriate times.

Watched a movie recently where an officer was covering a perpetrator on his knees with her pistol. They 'clear' him and she points the gun up, racks the slide, and holsters. Guh.
 
yeah I've noticed that too. I espeshally like when somebody racks a shotgun pump in the same context as the above on hammer-fanning.

"You gonna Talk Punk?"

"Eat #$!@ Copper!"

**Racks Slide**

"I mean it Punk!!"

"You must, since you just cleared this room with an unloaded shotgun!"


I'm amazed with THIS level of gun ignorance on set that more deaths like Brandon Lee haven't happend. (If I remember correctly a dummy round left a squib in the gun barrell, then when a blank was loaded it discharged, killing Lee)

-Weer'd Beard
 
My Hollywood favorites,

The 2 inch snubby that is so accurate that it can bring down a moving target at 50 yards.

The bullet that causes a car to explode.

Exploding cars in general.

The bullet that brings down a helicopter or airplane.

The bullet that causes an airliner to explode.

Shooting out the tires of moving vehicles.

Gary
 
Bought Terminator 2 last night. Just got done watching it.

I liked at the end Linda Hamleton had some tactical pump shotgun....but for some reason she was only loading the gun one shell at a time.

She filled the tube for the finale.....but I was scratching my head on that one.

Still can't figgure it out....

-Weer'd Beard
 
Garys said:
My Hollywood favorites,

The bullet that causes a car to explode.
Click to expand...

The scene in Last Action Hero where the movie hero shoots at a taxicab in real life New York and is astonished when it DOESN'T explode is one of my favorites!
 
dwarven1 said:
Garys said:
My Hollywood favorites,

The bullet that causes a car to explode.
Click to expand...

The scene in Last Action Hero where the movie hero shoots at a taxicab in real life New York and is astonished when it DOESN'T explode is one of my favorites!
Click to expand...

I laugh my ass off with that film. They pull so many foolish Hollywood stunts. M persoanl Fave is when Charlse Dance shoots somebody in the open and is amazed that the Poice aren't on the scene in 60 seconds 8)

I picked up the DVD for this for CHEAP one day....unfortunetly it was a Pan-and-Scan DVD.

Personally I HATE pan-and-scan and have been watching Widescreen long before it was a standard DVD feature (and only on rare VHS) but several in my collection are "Small Screen" and I live with it.

But Last Action Hero does NOT translate well to Pan-and-scan at ALL. Too many MONSTER camera shots, no good. [cry]

-Weer'd Beard
 
Just watched Lethal Weapon 4 with the wife last night.

The wife asked a few times "Could that really be done?"

"nope" was always my answer.

Great films, but not very respectful to the laws of Physics. [lol]

Arrrr

-Weer'd Beard
 
Just watched Lethal Weapon 4 with the wife last night.

The wife asked a few times "Could that really be done?"

"nope" was always my answer.

Great films, but not very respectful to the laws of Physics. [lol]

Arrrr

-Weer'd Beard
 
Just watched Lethal Weapon 4 with the wife last night.

The wife asked a few times "Could that really be done?"

"nope" was always my answer.

Great films, but not very respectful to the laws of Physics. [lol]

Arrrr

-Weer'd Beard
 
there was a scene in the movie rat trap towards the end where two of the characters were at a gas station and the attendent pulls a revolver on them.showed him cocking back the hammer and at that same point the trigger went all the way back(like it had been fired an trigger wasn't released.

i had a pic but couldn't find it to show what exactly i'm talking about.


also i'm not sure if it's was a gun mistake or a misplaced holster.the character that danny glover played in the first lethal weapon was getting dressed and put what looked like a right hand holster on his left side.he had it so that the handles butt was facing forward.like a cross-draw from the hip.

i've never seen a holster worn like that before.

has anyone seen it worn like that?
 
there was a scene in the movie rat trap towards the end where two of the characters were at a gas station and the attendent pulls a revolver on them.showed him cocking back the hammer and at that same point the trigger went all the way back(like it had been fired an trigger wasn't released.

i had a pic but couldn't find it to show what exactly i'm talking about.


also i'm not sure if it's was a gun mistake or a misplaced holster.the character that danny glover played in the first lethal weapon was getting dressed and put what looked like a right hand holster on his left side.he had it so that the handles butt was facing forward.like a cross-draw from the hip.

i've never seen a holster worn like that before.

has anyone seen it worn like that?
 
there was a scene in the movie rat trap towards the end where two of the characters were at a gas station and the attendent pulls a revolver on them.showed him cocking back the hammer and at that same point the trigger went all the way back(like it had been fired an trigger wasn't released.

i had a pic but couldn't find it to show what exactly i'm talking about.


also i'm not sure if it's was a gun mistake or a misplaced holster.the character that danny glover played in the first lethal weapon was getting dressed and put what looked like a right hand holster on his left side.he had it so that the handles butt was facing forward.like a cross-draw from the hip.

i've never seen a holster worn like that before.

has anyone seen it worn like that?
 
Weer'd Beard said:
dwarven1 said:
Garys said:
My Hollywood favorites,

The bullet that causes a car to explode.
Click to expand...

The scene in Last Action Hero where the movie hero shoots at a taxicab in real life New York and is astonished when it DOESN'T explode is one of my favorites!
Click to expand...

I laugh my ass off with that film. They pull so many foolish Hollywood stunts. M persoanl Fave is when Charlse Dance shoots somebody in the open and is amazed that the Poice aren't on the scene in 60 seconds 8)

I picked up the DVD for this for CHEAP one day....unfortunetly it was a Pan-and-Scan DVD.

Personally I HATE pan-and-scan and have been watching Widescreen long before it was a standard DVD feature (and only on rare VHS) but several in my collection are "Small Screen" and I live with it.

But Last Action Hero does NOT translate well to Pan-and-scan at ALL. Too many MONSTER camera shots, no good. [cry]

-Weer'd Beard
Click to expand...




Weer'd:

Could you explain what pan-and-scan means? Also, if a DVD has been made this way, can you tell before you open the package at the store?

Thx.

C-X
 
Weer'd Beard said:
dwarven1 said:
Garys said:
My Hollywood favorites,

The bullet that causes a car to explode.
Click to expand...

The scene in Last Action Hero where the movie hero shoots at a taxicab in real life New York and is astonished when it DOESN'T explode is one of my favorites!
Click to expand...

I laugh my ass off with that film. They pull so many foolish Hollywood stunts. M persoanl Fave is when Charlse Dance shoots somebody in the open and is amazed that the Poice aren't on the scene in 60 seconds 8)

I picked up the DVD for this for CHEAP one day....unfortunetly it was a Pan-and-Scan DVD.

Personally I HATE pan-and-scan and have been watching Widescreen long before it was a standard DVD feature (and only on rare VHS) but several in my collection are "Small Screen" and I live with it.

But Last Action Hero does NOT translate well to Pan-and-scan at ALL. Too many MONSTER camera shots, no good. [cry]

-Weer'd Beard
Click to expand...




Weer'd:

Could you explain what pan-and-scan means? Also, if a DVD has been made this way, can you tell before you open the package at the store?

Thx.

C-X
 
Weer'd Beard said:
dwarven1 said:
Garys said:
My Hollywood favorites,

The bullet that causes a car to explode.
Click to expand...

The scene in Last Action Hero where the movie hero shoots at a taxicab in real life New York and is astonished when it DOESN'T explode is one of my favorites!
Click to expand...

I laugh my ass off with that film. They pull so many foolish Hollywood stunts. M persoanl Fave is when Charlse Dance shoots somebody in the open and is amazed that the Poice aren't on the scene in 60 seconds 8)

I picked up the DVD for this for CHEAP one day....unfortunetly it was a Pan-and-Scan DVD.

Personally I HATE pan-and-scan and have been watching Widescreen long before it was a standard DVD feature (and only on rare VHS) but several in my collection are "Small Screen" and I live with it.

But Last Action Hero does NOT translate well to Pan-and-scan at ALL. Too many MONSTER camera shots, no good. [cry]

-Weer'd Beard
Click to expand...




Weer'd:

Could you explain what pan-and-scan means? Also, if a DVD has been made this way, can you tell before you open the package at the store?

Thx.

C-X
 
Pan-and-scan means that the movie was formated to fit a TV screen. So when you watch the movie on a standard screen there will be no black "Letter box" on the top and bottom.

To do this they scan the "widescreen" origonal and zoom in on it, cutting the edges off. They will then create artificial camera movements to try and maintain the best contect of the film. Usally in non-action films this translates VERY well since most of the improtant information is kept in the center of the frame.

But in action films, or anything with very wide, or busy shots SOMTHING important is gonna get on the cutting room floor. (Last night while watching "Door in the Floor" in Pan-and-Scan, Jeff Bridges was being chased by a car. In one sceen the "camera" centered on him, but you couldn't see the car...but you could hear it, and see a small peice of the car chasing him because it had to be cut off)

Also this can lead to a dizzing effect for panaramic shots.

You can always tell what is on your DVD or VHS at the store, but the tricks are multiple.

MOST DVDs are widescreen now (Some are even both, having the pan-and-scan on the 2nd layer) but often it will say "Widscreen" on the package.

For Pan-and-Scan you will either see "Full Frame" on the package, or "This film has been modified to fit your Screen" (You will ALWAYS see that message played beofore the film, wether yer watching a recording, or a brodcast).

Also some sellers put the aspect ratio on the box (It's usally below the credits on the back) and more often than not, it explains how to read the ratios.


If you want to learn more on it, the Die Hard Special Eddition DVD has a featurette on Pan-and-Scan on the second disk. for $9 or less how can you go wrong?

That eddition of Die Hard is widescreen BTW 8)

-Weer'd Beard
 
Pan-and-scan means that the movie was formated to fit a TV screen. So when you watch the movie on a standard screen there will be no black "Letter box" on the top and bottom.

To do this they scan the "widescreen" origonal and zoom in on it, cutting the edges off. They will then create artificial camera movements to try and maintain the best contect of the film. Usally in non-action films this translates VERY well since most of the improtant information is kept in the center of the frame.

But in action films, or anything with very wide, or busy shots SOMTHING important is gonna get on the cutting room floor. (Last night while watching "Door in the Floor" in Pan-and-Scan, Jeff Bridges was being chased by a car. In one sceen the "camera" centered on him, but you couldn't see the car...but you could hear it, and see a small peice of the car chasing him because it had to be cut off)

Also this can lead to a dizzing effect for panaramic shots.

You can always tell what is on your DVD or VHS at the store, but the tricks are multiple.

MOST DVDs are widescreen now (Some are even both, having the pan-and-scan on the 2nd layer) but often it will say "Widscreen" on the package.

For Pan-and-Scan you will either see "Full Frame" on the package, or "This film has been modified to fit your Screen" (You will ALWAYS see that message played beofore the film, wether yer watching a recording, or a brodcast).

Also some sellers put the aspect ratio on the box (It's usally below the credits on the back) and more often than not, it explains how to read the ratios.


If you want to learn more on it, the Die Hard Special Eddition DVD has a featurette on Pan-and-Scan on the second disk. for $9 or less how can you go wrong?

That eddition of Die Hard is widescreen BTW 8)

-Weer'd Beard
 
Pan-and-scan means that the movie was formated to fit a TV screen. So when you watch the movie on a standard screen there will be no black "Letter box" on the top and bottom.

To do this they scan the "widescreen" origonal and zoom in on it, cutting the edges off. They will then create artificial camera movements to try and maintain the best contect of the film. Usally in non-action films this translates VERY well since most of the improtant information is kept in the center of the frame.

But in action films, or anything with very wide, or busy shots SOMTHING important is gonna get on the cutting room floor. (Last night while watching "Door in the Floor" in Pan-and-Scan, Jeff Bridges was being chased by a car. In one sceen the "camera" centered on him, but you couldn't see the car...but you could hear it, and see a small peice of the car chasing him because it had to be cut off)

Also this can lead to a dizzing effect for panaramic shots.

You can always tell what is on your DVD or VHS at the store, but the tricks are multiple.

MOST DVDs are widescreen now (Some are even both, having the pan-and-scan on the 2nd layer) but often it will say "Widscreen" on the package.

For Pan-and-Scan you will either see "Full Frame" on the package, or "This film has been modified to fit your Screen" (You will ALWAYS see that message played beofore the film, wether yer watching a recording, or a brodcast).

Also some sellers put the aspect ratio on the box (It's usally below the credits on the back) and more often than not, it explains how to read the ratios.


If you want to learn more on it, the Die Hard Special Eddition DVD has a featurette on Pan-and-Scan on the second disk. for $9 or less how can you go wrong?

That eddition of Die Hard is widescreen BTW 8)

-Weer'd Beard
 

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