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Here's the link:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2006/07/18/annie_get_your_glock/


Here's my response to its author:

Dear sir;

I read your article on The Firing Line in Manchester, N.H. It contains several errors; some minor, others egregious.

Amazingly enough, cartridge belts are made up of CARTRIDGES; not "bullets." Further, I question your assertion that the AK-47 is issued to "Special Forces in Iraq," as the M-4 is the standard long arm, replacing the M-16 upon which it is based. M40A3 and M-82 rifles are also used by snipers.

On to your seriously false statements:

"It's no accident that the Firing Line is in New Hampshire and so many of its customers are from Massachusetts. New Hampshire has some of the most permissive gun laws in New England, while Massachusetts prohibits any ``assault weapon or large capacity feeding device [more than 10 rounds]." (The Brady Campaign gives Massachusetts an A- for its gun laws. It gives New Hampshire a D-. ) That means no AK-47s and definitely no M-60s. If you want target practice, stay in Massachusetts ; i f you want to play Rambo, go to New Hampshire."

Nonsense. The Massachusetts "assault weapons" ban simply parrotted the Federal one, which expressly EXCLUDED all such firearms made prior to its effective date of September, 1994. This same exemption, therefore, is part of Massachusetts law. Pre-ban "assault weapons" are perfectly legal to own, shoot, buy or sell; the compliant post-ban versions (no bayonet lug or threaded muzzles) are as well. Note that pre-ban magazines ("feeding devices")are also exempt.

Moreover, the M-60 is FULLY automatic (hence the term, "machine gun") and does not fall under either the EITHER the Federal or the Mass. "assault weapon" ban, which only affects SEMI-automatic guns. Machine guns require a Federal license and a separate Mass. license, with which their ownership is perfectly legal. Note that there was a machine gun shoot in Hanson over the Memorial Day Weekend.

"As Ladies Night draws to an end, the crowd at the Firing Line starts to thin out, but the Somerville couple who had never fired a gun before are still in their lane, having traded out their medium-weight Smith & Wesson revolver for an Uzi -- an Israeli submachine gun that was illegal in the United States from 1994 to 2003, when President Clinton's assault weapons ban, which prohibited most automatic weapons, quietly expired."

More nonsense. AGAIN, if it was truly a fully-automatic Uzi (i.e., a "submachine gun"), it also was not affected by "President Clinton's assault weapons ban" in any way, shape, manner or form. It certainly was not "illegal in the United States from 1994 to 2003." NO machine gun was.

You did not even get the date right. The ban expired in 2004; not "2003." Had you made any effort to actually research your article, you would also have learned that the prohibition on machine guns occurred under Clinton's predecessor and that it only affected the sale of machine guns made AFTER its effective date.

In short, what started out as a fairly straightforward article soon degenerated into the usual snide, condescending, bigoted dig at both lawful gun owners and any place outside the 128 belt, further aggravated by blatantly false assertions.
 
And I have to say, after reading it again , yes, his facts are poorly researched, but he didn't skew it that the women or the NRA are entirely nuts. It's in The Globe so there's only so much that we can expect.
 
Nice reply Scriv!

I especially liked how the Walther P22 is "a model similar to the Walther PPK"

No wonder he works for the Globe. A REAL news paper that actually reported FACTS wouldn't have an ignoramus like this!
 
Scrivener, when I read the article, I noticed the errors in fact, but overall thought it was one of the most even handed reports I've ever seen in the Globe.

It was good enough, IMHO, to draw some interest from women who might want to give it a try.

I don't think the facts, or non facts in this case, were worthy of the heavy hammer of your letter. But then again, you yourself have admitted to being fairly ( a little ) anal about guns. *friendly smile*

I know terms make a difference, but how much does cartridge vrs. bullet make in this context to the uninitiated?

God I hope I spelled all of this right!!! Actually Scrivener, I am glad that people write to correct facts, but I guess I prefer the velvet glove to the 10 pound hammer.

Bill
 
Well I guess I'm going to have to take some lumps here friends. I watched the slideshow on the Globe website this morning when I read the article, and they showed happy, smiling women shooting guns. That was the impression I was left with.

I didn't mean to criticize Shrivener, I know he's kinda thin skinned *Smile*.

Derek and Chris, maybe the VA meds I take make me to pliable *grin*
 
depicts said:
Scrivener, when I read the article, I noticed the errors in fact, but overall thought it was one of the most even handed reports I've ever seen in the Globe....I don't think the facts, or non facts in this case, were worthy of the heavy hammer of your letter.... Actually Scrivener, I am glad that people write to correct facts, but I guess I prefer the velvet glove to the 10 pound hammer.
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If you think that lumping semi-autos and machine guns is a minor error, that misstating the scope of the AWB is minor, that misstating the legality of pre-ban "assault weapons" and machine guns is minor and that the slam against NH and its "Rambo" aspects are minor, we have a fundamental disagreement.

If you think that NH "lax gun laws" compared to this state's onerous ones mean that the former is a dangerous state and latter a safe one, which is the implied message, you are beyond reason.
 
depicts said:
Well I guess I'm going to have to take some lumps here friends. I watched the slideshow on the Globe website this morning when I read the article, and they showed happy, smiling women shooting guns. That was the impression I was left with.

I didn't mean to criticize Shrivener, I know he's kinda thin skinned *Smile*.

Derek and Chris, maybe the VA meds I take make me to pliable *grin*
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No worries Bill. I just feel it was written with a purpose. That's all. [wink]
 
I could say that anything that makes the people of Massachusetts think we have enough gun laws to do the job, and don't need more is a good thing.

But I won't say that, nope, I won't.

I'm not going to get out of this easy, and I wish I could just shut up!

Like Ron White on "Blue Collar Comedy Tour" says, "I have the right to remain silent,...but not the ability."
 
Nice letter Scrivener. I was quetioning some of the facts in that article.

On the other hand- being a gun advocate, supporter or IDPA, NRA, instructor, etc., etc. I have an issue with that particular range.

I've been there with a bunch of kids using automatics, Glocks, etc. and they were moving guns back and forth carelessly while giggling. I'll be honest. I wasn't comfortable there. When I rented some Glocks the person didn't even ask me if I knew how to use these firearms before proceeding to the range unassisted. If I was to write an "unbiased" article it wouldn't shine bright on the club.

That being said it's clear this wasn't an article but more of a political statement... which is complete BS.

I also take offense the idea of a midget night. If I were a midget I'd be pissed at the Globe for slighting them.

I also wasn't aware that a .22 is slightly more potent than a sling shot.. what an idiot!
 
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So are Firearms. Unless you have permission.

From Chapter 269 Secion 10(b)

"(b) Whoever, except as provided by law, carries on his person, or carries on his person or under his control in a vehicle, any stiletto, dagger or a device or case which enables a knife with a locking blade to be drawn at a locked position, any ballistic knife, or any knife with a detachable blade capable of being propelled by any mechanism, dirk knife, any knife having a double-edged blade, or a switch knife, or any knife having an automatic spring release device by which the blade is released from the handle, having a blade of over one and one-half inches, or a slung shot, blowgun, blackjack, metallic knuckles or knuckles of any substance which could be put to the same use with the same or similar effect as metallic knuckles, nunchaku, zoobow, also known as klackers or kung fu sticks, or any similar weapon consisting of two sticks of wood, plastic or metal connected at one end by a length of rope, chain, wire or leather, a shuriken or any similar pointed starlike object intended to injure a person when thrown, or any armband, made with leather which has metallic spikes, points or studs or any similar device made from any other substance or a cestus or similar material weighted with metal or other substance and worn on the hand, or a manrikigusari or similar length of chain having weighted ends; or whoever, when arrested upon a warrant for an alleged crime, or when arrested while committing a breach or disturbance of the public peace, is armed with or has on his person, or has on his person or under his control in a vehicle, a billy or other dangerous weapon other than those herein mentioned and those mentioned in paragraph (a), shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than two and one-half years nor more than five years in the state prison, or for not less than six months nor more than two and one-half years in a jail or house of correction, except that, if the court finds that the defendant has not been previously convicted of a felony, he may be punished by a fine of not more than fifty dollars or by imprisonment for not more than two and one-half years in a jail or house of correction."

All of Chapter 269 Section 10 basically takes away the fun. And it is LONG.

Chapter 269 Section 10.
 
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Chris said:
So are Firearms. Unless you have permission.
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True, but you can get a permit for a firearm. I think it's pretty silly when you can legally own a crossbow or class 3 weapon, but not a blow gun or sling (slung) shot. [rolleyes]
 
So,
Just having a studded bracelet (or in C-phers case a studded dog collar) you could be charged, and lose your rights to own firearms in this state forever!
 
Chris said:
There was a reason for that I'm sure. Lets not forget that a sling shot is illegal in MA, and sold over the counter in NH.
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Crap! I almost bought one at the KTP last week for my boy... I didn't know that. I guess I'm better off letting him use my guns with me anyway.
 
Chris said:
So are Firearms. Unless you have permission.

From Chapter 269 Secion 10(b)

"(b) <SNIP> has on his person or under his control in a vehicle, a billy or other dangerous weapon other than those herein mentioned and those mentioned in paragraph (a), <SNIP>
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WTF? Who thinks up this stuff? A "billy"? As in billy club? Or my ASP? And I suppose that aluminum baseball bat, long handle ice scrapper or anything else in my POV that could be a dangerous weapon.[frown]

Geez.... [rolleyes]

RJ
 
SCRIVENER FOR GOVERNOR
Think about it:
Common sense firearm laws, accurate media coverage of all things firearm, and damn it, people will think twice before typing somthing [sic].

Chris
 

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