Micro black aces DT "shotgun" non NFA?

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https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/short-barrel-no-hassle-black-aces/

http://www.blackacestactical.com

Visiting my local LGS and a conversation about this "firearm" came up. Discussion revolved around what this would be considered in MA and ultimately, could this transferred into the state.

I had never seen or heard of it before. When I saw it, I thought it would be an AOW or Any Other Weapon, but I was wrong because it's over 26" and was never manufactured with a stock so it doesn't fall into that classification.

And since it's not considered a SBS by law either( just don't let an ATF agent see you put the Sig brace up to your shoulder [rofl]), but only considered a "firearm", then what's stopping it from being legal in MA? Could it be considered a pistol and subject to the weight limit that makes AR pistols a no go here either?

Considering the price and that I already own a SBS, I highly doubt I would ever buy one, I was just curious what others think about this.
 
seems like the answer to a question no one's asked.

what's your SBS? i'm a mossberg guy myself but i love love love the look of a lot of the 870 SBSs i've seen.

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i mean shit. look at that. look. at. that.

unfggg.
 
Not legal in MA. Also, adding a Sig Brace to these is a no-go per BATFE

There are some photos around of a Black Aces with a Sig Brace attached, and this design lead to the "Sig Brace on Shotgun" letter from BATFE.

Same ideas as the [thread=208211]Shockwave/Raptor variant of the 500[/thread], and thus not legal in Massachusetts, see https://www.northeastshooters.com/v...iser-Mass-OK?p=3842356&viewfull=1#post3842356
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It's an interesting concept, but don't talk about it in front of David Codrea or Mike Vanderboegh or they'll go all conspiracy theory on you.
 
seems like the answer to a question no one's asked.

what's your SBS? i'm a mossberg guy myself but i love love love the look of a lot of the 870 SBSs i've seen.

l8rMw0G.jpg


i mean shit. look at that. look. at. that.

unfggg.
Mines just a basic rem 870 with 14" barrel. Got it on GB for like $300 used a couple years ago. Has speed stock, single point sling, shell holder, flashlight and fiber optic front sight. Very handy gun indoors at this length. uploadfromtaptalk1443999123685.jpg
 
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