It must be super nice to know everything about everything
so you can laugh at those who you deem lesser than yourself.
I certainly don't know everything, but I think it's wise for us to challenge each other when we make statements based on
likely bad, outmoded, or outdated information. Operating off bad intel results in a bad response to the
problem. This can turn into a "mind virus" or allow large groups of people to fall prey to, what is, in effect, a version of Goebbels
"big lie theory" or similar, the "if you repeat a lie often enough (even unintentionally) it eventually becomes the truth." Antis are
banking on everyone repeating their lies, and this is dangerous. In case you haven't noticed, they have this alarming tendency to
keep repeating the same rhetoric over and over again, and 95% of it isy factually unsound. Getting a hyperbole laden lie to stick is a
free bingo space for them.
My humor is not so much about "you" (I'm seriously not trying to insult you, apologies if you took it that way)
but about the mindset in the posts; what you posted is like what RKBA activists were thinking about this stuff
in 1994, because it "felt" like, back then, gun owners were fighting a pitched battle because of lack of communication etc and
a promotion of lies through the MSM controlling nearly everything. That "the antis are a political force to be reckoned with because they have numbers" (even when they didn't, but they sold the illusion of that). That just isn't the on the ground reality anymore. After TheInternet(tm) appeared and millions of people started getting involved in guns in some non fuddy way, the shape of the entire game changed. The swarms of antis that did stuff like MMM and so on largely evaporated in the wake of exposure of those organizations, and things like 9/11 caused a massive perspective shift in public thinking. Over time since the 90s massive public skepticism about gun control has emerged. Fun example I like to use recently- in one of the post-parkland protests, the MSM was hooting and hollering about all these people that showed up, so wah lah, blah blah blah. The MSM made it sound like there were a ton of kids there and somehow were a majority of protesters. Some political science students down in DC or wherever this was, actually went to one of these events and actually counted the # of people, noted their gender, and age group, etc. What they found that like more than half of the protesters were like 40+ y/o white females, some of who had dragged their kids to the "thing" as decoration, even then, children were nowhere near the majority of protesters. The actual demographic of that protest, was misrepresented by the MSM. In 1994 everyone would have taken that as gospel, but nowadays, because independent media, not so much. It's not just "pro gun" people that see these things, either. This stuff leaks out into email forwards and other kinds of social media.
ETA: I'm not talking "In MA" either, I mean nationally. Full on moonbat political shitholes in like 6 states shouldn't get to dictate a gun
ban that effects the other 44 states. It's easy to get conned into thinking the antis have power because they appear in public in MA all
the time. Doesn't take long going away from here before that turns into dust quickly.
The antis were always trying to suck off the peacock effect even back in the 90s, but now they literally NEED it to stay relevant in any
political sphere of influence, because most of america stops caring once the news ticker changes to something else. Fun example- Bloomberg had to PAY people to collect signatures to get UBC referendums on the ballot in like two or three states. If Gun control was so grassroots-popular, he wouldn't have had to resort to that at all, he could just go to the well, put people on DU, moveon, whatever, any number of other moonbat forums, and gotten all the ground support he needed, but the reality is that while even many moonbats talk the talk about banning shit or whatever, most of them don't care or throw a blind eye to it. I honestly think most of the dem candidates only talk
about it because some campaign focus-group type a**h*** told them that it was important, and also told them "if you don't shit on guns, then that gives the in-party opposition something to attack you with" etc. Look at Obama as a classic example of this. Yes, politically an
anti, on paper, but outside of the F&F horseshit, he took very little political risk to "fight guns" and by and large, in reality, left things alone because he knew it would be damaging to his re-election and also to other dems. He "talked shit about gun control" but largely did
nothing, becuase in practicality, he could do nothing. I think Trump to some extent does this, but he is very waffly about it, and the bump
stock BS showed that he's capable of going full retard, although I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that mostly happened because
of the NRA asking him to do it, because they "perceived" it was going to become some kind of legislative problem, but IMHO they were
way off base and fired from the hip. Now that the NRA is a dumpster fire, that maneuvering just showed that the NRA is running like 10+
years behind the curve. They thought they could "catch up" by doing media pandering bits via ack-mack etc, that it would put up enough
of an "edgelord" front to make it look like they're on the cutting political edge of the issue, but the reality is they're horribly out of touch
with reality. In order to be "effective" again they need to put out the dumpster fire and do things like concentrate on the "next gen warfare" and "4d chess type stuff" that Bloomshitberg & co are playing now. They are working gun control from the flanks and in completely different ways than the old school crap from the 90s that's almost not relevant at this point, and in effect, they are fiddling while
rome burns. Thankfully a lot of smaller groups have picked up the slack as well as important judicial stopgaps, etc, otherwise we would
be in serious trouble if it was left up to the NRA. They've wasted the last decade or so pandering to the member base on national
reciprocity legislation that had zero chance of going anywhere, while shitberg & co run around doing their anti gun guerrilla warfare on the
flanks almost unchecked.
65,000 posts in 13yrs? One things for certain you sure like the
sound of your own voice!
Based on that, a whole bunch of people including the owner (on the old forum SW, he broke the post counter and rolled it
over like a smelly ford 5 digit oodometer) must be terrible people. A large part of that #, at least in my case, is just my own personal failings in using multi quote. Believe that, however, if you like.
-Mike
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What was the sample size of the survey that determined that BS?![[laugh]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/012.gif "Laugh [laugh]")
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