Maybe we should have an OC event in Durham, NH...

[soloman02]

Apparently, someone got wigged out (mostly moonbats in this town, go figure) and called the police because they "thought" they saw the butt of a gun in someones pocket along main street in Durham, NH tonight. At first I thought it was me since I was wearing khaki pants tonight, but I saw the leather jacket and knew it wasn't me, I was concealed though so you'd have to be looking real hard to tell, even then all you'd see is a bulge in my fleece.

I almost want to go back out tonight and OC out of spite.

The UNH Police Department received information at approximately 6:15 p.m. this evening of a suspicious male subject with short hair wearing khaki pants and a leather jacket with a fur-type collar with what appeared to be the handle of a firearm protruding from one of his jacket pockets. The subject was last seen in the area of Edgewood Road and Main Street walking towards the downtown area of Durham. Please contact 911 immediately to report any suspicious activity. Any updates will be posted on www.unh.edu/upd.

UPDATE

At 7:55 p.m. this evening the UNH Police Department received information of a male subject fitting the above description. Information regarding the location of the subject was provided to the UNH Police Emergency Dispatch Center approximately 10 minutes after the Emergency ALERT was sent out by a witness who had received the Emergency ALERT.

The Durham Police Department was able to detain and identify this subject in the downtown area of Main Street. The UNH Police Department was on scene with the identification of this subject. This alert is cancelled.

 

[CooperS7777]

Fantastic - people have nothing better to do.

I hope it turns out his cell phone was sticking out a bit and it wasn't in fact a failed attempt at CCing, thats all we need.

 

[soloman02]

Even if it was a failed attempt at CCing, if he was properly licensed (which your almost guaranteed to get if you can buy a gun in NH) it should be a non-issue.

 

[CooperS7777]

Thats true in a strictly legal sense - but the fact of the matter is it hurts our cause none the less.

 

[Homebrew]

It happened again last night. They saw someone carring a silver gun and "pacing" at a bus stop. (who hasn't while waiting for a bus) But now he is in a trench coat.
http://www.wmur.com/news/21901718/detail.html

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Wow - a "continuing investigation" for a report of a legal activity.

 

[DJMc]

I see a difference in the stories.

In the first one, the person had "the handle of a firearm protruding from one of his jacket pockets." I think this is sloppy concealed carry, and maybe someone in the know should step up, tell him they can see that he is carrying and suggest how he learn to do it in a better manner.

In the second report, the man is both pacing and actually "holding" the revolver. Holding to me means having it in your hand. That seems quite different from sloppy concealed or open carry. The weapon is being held in his hand. When you go to the range and the line is cleared, holding a firearm in your hand is not an option. That's how accident happen. If you were carrying would you pul out your pistol while walking down the street for the fun of handling it? Isn't that at the very least a little immature? A man pacing and holding a revolver, that might have scared me a little.

On the other hand, I don't have an NH permit, and I am not going to offer myself up as a test case trying to open carry in my home state. There is some thought in my head of getting an NH permit. So although I could nto participate, I would applaud a bunch of people going to NH and having an open carry event. Just a bunch of guys and, hopefully, some WOMEN showing up to have breakfast or lunch in a number of local places all openly carrying. Heck, that would shake some tailfeathers in the town. Maybe a little notice to the local cops would be appropriate, on short notice, like a phone call a half hour before people start showing up. And a short notice call to some press to get coverage would be good too. Simple statements as to this is legal, we are all legally permitted to carry and it shouldn't get this much attention, THIS SHOULD BE MORE NORMAL. I could see an event like that having some impact.

 

[lord1234]

I propose that people that start threads about OC events get banned if they don't go through with it.

--Lord1234 is sick of these ridiculous threads

 

[Hillie4life]

Now I have a Mass LTC/A no restrictions (and have already applied for the NH CCW, not that it matters) could I legal particpate in a NH OC event? even though I do not have a NH license yet?

Again I'm from Mass so "live free or die" is still kind of hard for me to spell, let alone understand. Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[Larry Legend]

could I legal particpate in a NH OC event? even though I do not have a NH license yet?

Just don't get into a vehicle with the loaded gun on your hip. Can't do that without the license.

 

[Hillie4life]

Just don't get into a vehicle with the loaded gun on your hip. Can't do that without the license.

Can you do that with a license?

I have heard that (even with a license you're not supposed to). Now I've been trying to find this on the NH gun laws threads but are you able to posses a loaded magazine as long as its not in the gun?

 

[KMaurer]

You're not allowed to have a loaded gun in a vehicle unless you've got a permit, in which case it's perfectly legal.

Ken

 

[KMaurer]

Durham and Keene both suffer from the same problem, namely too high a concentration of faculty and students.

Ken

 

[edhead35]

Anyone from any state can open carry in NH, without ANY permit - for example if your state doesnt require a permit to own a firearm.

The only problem is you cant get in a car in NH with a loaded gun without a resident or non resident pistol/revolver license to carry concealed (the car is concealing it as far as the law is concerned.) So drive up with the gun unloaded, and load it out of the car, OC, then unload it before getting back in the car. It would be wise to do the loading and unloading in a private place, so you dont scare the sheep.

 

[Twigg]

I propose that people that start threads about OC events get banned if they don't go through with it.

--Lord1234 is sick of these ridiculous threads

...and what exactly are you doing to promote the preservation of rights in your state ? The OP lives in a free state, the discussion of and actually openly carrying are more common than you think.

A bit jealous of our freedom perhaps ?

If you're sick of threads like these, don't post in them !

 

[TomH]

Thats true in a strictly legal sense - but the fact of the matter is it hurts our cause none the less.

How does carrying a gun hurt our "cause", you can conceal OR open carry in NH. Neither is a crime, and certainly not "suspicious." If the butt of your gun sticks out, you simply are open carrying... something you don't even need a license for.

I lived in Durham for 4 1/2 years, downtown is right up against dorms on campus. I am unsure of where college property begins or ends. I'm sure there is a no firearms policy on campus (although I recall the rifle club could store any owned rifles at the rotc area or a police area, can't remember which.)

 

[us-kiwi]

Anyone from any state can open carry in NH, without ANY permit - for example if your state doesnt require a permit to own a firearm.

The only problem is you cant get in a car in NH with a loaded gun without a resident or non resident pistol/revolver license to carry concealed (the car is concealing it as far as the law is concerned.) So drive up with the gun unloaded, and load it out of the car, OC, then unload it before getting back in the car. It would be wise to do the loading and unloading in a private place, so you dont scare the sheep.

Just to clarify a little, note that it is a pistol/revolver permit, only.
Loaded long guns are not allowed in vehicles.
IIRC it is a Fish & Game law, - stops people from jacking deer - rrright.

 

[Hillie4life]

Thank you gentleman for the clarification, I look forward to recieving my CCW in NH. I live right on the boarder of NH and applied for my NH CCW as sooner as I got my Mass LTC/A.

I can't wait to travel interstate without worrying about whether I can bring my gun/carry it (I'm mostly in Plaistow and Salem) since there are usually more Mass residence in those citys then NH residence I will avoid open carrying for now.

Thanks again.

 

[CooperS7777]

How does carrying a gun hurt our "cause", you can conceal OR open carry in NH. Neither is a crime, and certainly not "suspicious." If the butt of your gun sticks out, you simply are open carrying... something you don't even need a license for.

I lived in Durham for 4 1/2 years, downtown is right up against dorms on campus. I am unsure of where college property begins or ends. I'm sure there is a no firearms policy on campus (although I recall the rifle club could store any owned rifles at the rotc area or a police area, can't remember which.)

The same way topless open carry protests dont help our cause.

Just because is "OK" in New Hampshire (and yes, Ive lived here my entire life and am very familiar with the laws) doesn't mean one should. Concealed is concealed, open is open - if your carrying concealed and someone can see it - its much more suspicious and concerning (to most) than someone who is "openly" OCing.

 

[soloman02]

Durham and Keene both suffer from the same problem, namely too high a concentration of faculty and students.

Ken

And liberal professors...

How does carrying a gun hurt our "cause", you can conceal OR open carry in NH. Neither is a crime, and certainly not "suspicious." If the butt of your gun sticks out, you simply are open carrying... something you don't even need a license for.

I lived in Durham for 4 1/2 years, downtown is right up against dorms on campus. I am unsure of where college property begins or ends. I'm sure there is a no firearms policy on campus (although I recall the rifle club could store any owned rifles at the rotc area or a police area, can't remember which.)

UNH does have a no weapons policy that includes firearms. However, since UNH has a shooting club (that shoots at MWSA) the UNH police allow you to store your gun with them.

The man supposedly holding a gun was never found by the way. They found someone who matched his description (dark beard, trench coat) but there was no gun so they released him.

Also, it took UNH one hour to notify everyone via their alert system (I receive text messages) that some guy was seen holding a gun. I received the notifications at 6:30.

DURHAM, N.H. – On Dec. 8, 2009 at approximately 5:30 p.m., the University of New Hampshire Police Department received a call from a UNH bus driver reporting a man showing a silver handgun near Holloway Commons. No threats were made.

Police issued a campus alert that resulted in an anonymous tip of a subject matching the description near the Memorial Union Building on Main Street. After an investigation police determined he was not the subject. No one is in custody and no weapon has been found. After an extensive search of the entire campus police determined there was no current danger and an all clear was issued shortly before 9 p.m.

Police will maintain an enhanced presence on campus throughout the night to alleviate concerns. Campus security is available to escort students between buildings 24 hours a day by calling (603) 862-1427. This free service is available any time. Please call 911 to report any suspicious activity.

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I emailed the deputy chief on the 12/4 for clarification on whether mace or stun guns are allowed (for defense purposes) but have yet to receive a response.

If you wish to email the deputy chief (who is a staunch believer of no guns allowed, even those who have LTC's), his email is:
Paul Kopreski
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