Massachusetts map of LTC per 1000 Residents

[NetDoc]

I am not sure if this has been posted before. It was created in 2010, and may represent 2009 data or earlier. But still interesting. It is an interactive map; with some clicking on the legend, you can get it to color all towns, darker being more per thousand.

http://ibm.co/PaYKFQ

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It isn't clear from the description whether this includes LTC-B and FID cards.

 

[Zappa]

Gosnold has 253 out of 1000 ???

The entire population is only 75 people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosnold,_Massachusetts

 

[ntomsw]

Gosnold has 253 out of 1000 ???

The entire population is only 75 people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosnold,_Massachusetts

Oops. Someone counted wrong.

 

[hpm]

No wrong counting - if the results are displayed in 'licenses per 1000 residents' as indicated. Towns with less than 1000 residents would simply be calculated to get to 'per 1000'...

For example a town with 2 residents - and one of them having a LTC would have the value: 500 per 1000 residents!

 

[Kahrmine]

Gosnold has 253 out of 1000 ???

The entire population is only 75 people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosnold,_Massachusetts

The whole thing is per thousand, so I guess they crunched the stats as if they had 1,000 people relative to the 75 they do have.

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No wrong counting - if the results are displayed in 'licenses per 1000 residents' as indicated. Towns with less than 1000 residents would simply be calculated to get to 'per 1000'...

For example a town with 2 residents - and one of them having a LTC would have the value: 500 per 1000 residents!

Yes.

 

[lowelldan]

Odd thing I noticed.... The cities/towns that are generally considered more dangerous (lawrence, lowell, boston) all have pretty low numbers per thousand..... hrmmmm

 

[AF83]

I live in an orange town[sad2] Only about 600 people are licensed out of 28,000. We gotta step it up.

 

[dnepro-mike]

chesterfield - 35% out of an entire population have licences.
newton - 1.5% of population have licences.

 

[s4mt3k]

chesterfield - 35% out of an entire population have licences.

Totaling 451 licenses... small town, population of 1289 (obv that's not accurate)

 

[NetDoc]

Wow, this is interesting

Buried in the comments was this gem - Violent crimes vs. gun ownership in MA

http://ibm.co/Pim6bQ

Pretty clear that the towns with highest violent crime are low on gun ownership and vice versa.

 

[Zappa]

Buried in the comments was this gem - Violent crimes vs. gun ownership in MA

http://ibm.co/Pim6bQ

Pretty clear that the towns with highest violent crime are low on gun ownership and vice versa.

But that's legal gun ownership, it only counts the people the authorities know are licensed.
In places like Lowell, Lynn, Chelsea, Lawrence, Roxbury, Mattapan, Brockton, Fitchburg, Springfield and Holyoke, I'm sure the number of unlicensed gun possessors is far greater than us licensed folk.

 

[gene]

Odd thing I noticed.... The cities/towns that are generally considered more dangerous (lawrence, lowell, boston) all have pretty low numbers per thousand..... hrmmmm

Thats because many of the people that live in the high crime areas done need no steenkin license

 

[Baikal49]

I am not sure if this has been posted before. It was created in 2010, and may represent 2009 data or earlier. But still interesting. It is an interactive map; with some clicking on the legend, you can get it to color all towns, darker being more per thousand.

http://ibm.co/PaYKFQ

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It isn't clear from the description whether this includes LTC-B and FID cards.

Thanks for posting the link. It would be nice to see a more recent list with license breakdown for each town including LTC-A unrestricted.

 

[Baikal49]

Odd thing I noticed.... The cities/towns that are generally considered more dangerous (lawrence, lowell, boston) all have pretty low numbers per thousand..... hrmmmm

Likely due to police chief attitudes.

 

[quincy]

An interesting stat that we will never see would be guns/1000, which would include all of the legally owned and all "street" guns. I'll bet that in the towns/cities that have a low number of permits per thousand would have the highest number of guns/1000.

 

[fencer]

Cool link.

 

[DJ_99Wing]

WOW, Thanks for the post. Very interesting. Would love to see this with current data. I bet Obama election has caused numbers to have increased, and with new election cycle now in effect, causing even bigger increase lately.

 

[jasons]

Anyone have an overlay of crime rates?


EDIT: http://www-958.ibm.com/software/data/cognos/manyeyes/visualizations/violent-crimes-per-gun-license

 

[jkommelb]

Totaling 451 licenses... small town, population of 1289 (obv that's not accurate)

Why would you think that's not accurate?

 

[s4mt3k]

Totaling 451 licenses... small town, population of 1289 (obv that's not accurate)

Why would you think that's not accurate?

Cause I'm sure there's rounding in there somewhere and a correction of +/- x amount. Could be 1280, could be 1300...

 

[NetDoc]

Cause I'm sure there's rounding in there somewhere and a correction of +/- x amount. Could be 1280, could be 1300...

What does it mean to accurately know how many people live in a particular town? People move in and out, there are transients, homeless people, undocumented people. These are likely census figures which give "best count" at the moment the census was taken. It is the best there is.

 

[s4mt3k]

What does it mean to accurately know how many people live in a particular town? People move in and out, there are transients, homeless people, undocumented people. These are likely census figures which give "best count" at the moment the census was taken. It is the best there is.

That's pretty much what I meant, 1289 is probably not the exact population of that town.

 

[NetDoc]

US Census 2010 figure for Chesterfield is 1,222

 

[SkydiveGuy]

Odd thing I noticed.... The cities/towns that are generally considered more dangerous (lawrence, lowell, boston) all have pretty low numbers per thousand..... hrmmmm

Allowing people that directly derive a financial living off crime prevention to control the issuance of gun licenses is completely wrong.

This is like forcing people to get a real estate salesperson license to sell their own home and giving the local real estate brokerage the power to decide if you are suitable enough to sell your own home.

 

[Boris]

US Census 2010 figure for Chesterfield is 1,222

at least 1147 vote Democrat (1222 - 75)

 

[BigDaddyAl]

I'm getting a dead link.

 

[Another_David]

dupe

 

[Another_David]

But that's legal gun ownership...

Buried in the comments was this gem - Violent crimes vs. gun ownership in MA

my graph is titled correctly--"Massachusetts gun licenses vs violent crimes by city or town"--not sure what you are reading

I'm getting a dead link.

it's working now.

http://www-958.ibm.com/software/dat...alizations/massachusetts-gun-licenses-vs-viol

original thread

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...pita-by-Town?p=1300073&viewfull=1#post1300073

I'd like to do some more of these--I have a few ideas, like city/town license restrictions vs. city/town demographics (race, income, etc.).

and yes, the point of the graph was to show that crime most often occurs in areas with the fewest gun licenses. What would improve the dataset would be to use an average over multiple years since I suspect some small towns have like ONE reportable crime every few years. Likewise, some sort of spacial modeling would help account for the places that are influenced from neighboring areas.

 

[NetDoc]

my graph is titled correctly--"Massachusetts gun licenses vs violent crimes by city or town"--not sure what you are reading

Yes, you are certainly correct. My bad.

 

[cekim]

Gosnold has 253 out of 1000 ???

The entire population is only 75 people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosnold,_Massachusetts

Perhaps they were looking at DNC voters?

(see prior - it looks like a statistical blip by converting back from "per 1000")