Don't forget that they use the tactic of stopping the official clock just before midnight and continuing on with legistraiting!
That's been done a number of times before, so that they are "legal".
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That's been done a number of times before, so that they are "legal".
I probably didn't phrase that right.
They want YOU to live in a third world shithole .
They will be doing just fine in gated communities while you live in a 300 square foot government controlled tenement and wait in line for bread.
Tarr voted in favor of the Red Flag bill .
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maybe he will be thusly inclined to pencil whip the renewals through, barring anything particularly egregious on the applicant's record.
Sen Velis texted me last night, said to start calling Reps again.
Plug your address in, the search will bring up your legislators.
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Yes, you are correct. They already live in gated communities like DC, Manhattan, Beacon Hill and the Seaport, Nasty Nancy in her compound in SF,etc.
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My Rep. Natalie Higgins is a Socialist gun grabber who won't even return my emails so I won't waste my time. It's zero hour for our rights even thou we technically don't have any in this State. Today will be VERY interesting.
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you should still harass them. Sometimes it just makes you feel better.
every once in a while, when I have a few minutes, I will send my trifecta of reps an email demonstrating the case of an American killed by an illegal. I never get a response, of course, but I smile just knowing someone in a democratic office saw it.
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On the question of whether they are going to effectively double the fee (half the term), sure.
But still codifying "suitability" and "interviews" is just more unconstitutional nose thumbing at the SCOTUS ruling. It is the same game different name.
Will wait and see where it all shakes out and what lawsuits can be brought.
With the current court I would like to see a legal run at the LTC as being a "permit to purchase." I mean is there anything more unconstitutional based?
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Well, again, the anti-2A MA pols stated they plan to come at us later with a vengeance and I see no reason not to believe them. The real battle is yet to come.On the question of whether they are going to effectively double the fee (half the term), sure.
But still codifying "suitability" and "interviews" is just more unconstitutional nose thumbing at the SCOTUS ruling. It is the same game different name.
Will wait and see where it all shakes out and what lawsuits can be brought.
With the current court I would like to see a legal run at the LTC as being a "permit to purchase." I mean is there anything more unconstitutional based?
But I'll take the temporary win for now if it works out that way.
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Double the fee was bad, but not the worst part (IMHO). Double the license bullshit hassle was the killer part. Thank you to whoever got to the Senate and let them know of the incredible problems for everyone this would have created.
Someone earlier pointed out that the "interview" mention was not necessarily a new legal requirement for a formal police interrogation, but merely a reference to what already is SOP for most new licenses and even for some renewals in some towns. If true, this doesn't bother me as much as I initially squawked about.
USE THIS!!!!!!!
I CALLED FROST'S OFFICE, GOT MURATORE AND SPOKE WITH HIM A FEW MINUTES. THEN EMAILED MURATORE, FROST, JONES, MIKE MOORE (SEN.), SMOLA, ALICEA (MIGHT NOT BE THERE ANY MORE), WHELAN, FATTMAN, TARR, GOBI, TURCO. TWO DIFFERENT EMAILS, TO KEEP SOME THINGS SEPARATE, AND FOR MORE REACH/EFFECT.
VERY IMPORTANT TO CALL, THEN FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL. THE CALL GETS THEIR NOTICE AND IMMEDIATE ATTENTION, THE FOLLOWUP EMAIL GIVES THEM DETAILS TO ACT UPON.
THANK YOU.
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The session is suppose to end in 7 hrs. Can someone in the know please fill in the details? Where do we stand and what happened?
No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the congress is in session. - Mark Twain.
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Interesting.
| 7/30/2022 | Senate | Passed to be engrossed -see Roll Call #233 (Yeas 39 to Nays 1) |
| 7/31/2022 | House | Rules suspended |
| 7/31/2022 | House | House NON-concurred in the Senate amendment |
| 7/31/2022 | House | Committee of conference appointed - (Day-Tyler-Smola) |
| 7/31/2022 | Senate | Rules suspended |
| 7/31/2022 | Senate | Senate insisted on its amendment |
| 7/31/2022 | Senate | Committee of conference appointed (Brownsberger-Creem-Tarr), in concurrence |
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What does this mean?
Means the senate and the house are fighting about the details. The house version has the reduction to 3 years and the mandatory in person interview. The senate version does not.
I am sure there are other differences and i am not sure what are the exact points they are arguing about. It does mean they are spending a lot of additional time on this bill.
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f***ing Gobi. She's getting a nasty gram tomorrow, even though Senate version was 6 years, the vote her vote should be no. She almost lost last time......I'll remind her of that if she keeps voting like this.
Believe it or not the emails aren't just summarily deleted, and if thoughtfully drafted actually can make a difference.
Avoiding form emails from NRA/GOAL and writing them in your own words is the most effective strategy. No one at the Legislature likes to get form emails.
Avoiding form emails from NRA/GOAL and writing them in your own words is the most effective strategy. No one at the Legislature likes to get form emails.
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They refused to issue my brother his LTC, he was rude at a city council meeting… They issued him as LTC after like a year or more and then yanked it the next day.
While he is an a**h***.. he wasn’t wrong, they denied him his 3 minutes to speak and then killed the audio and video…
They basically f***ed him for hurting their feeling..
I got to go down their in a couple weeks to speak my peace aswell.
Anybody know how to read an 11a conference committee report? Specifically the status of Tech, HIC, NIC? (NIC = Not in contest?)
1) i am not sure they ever ended the session, seems like the senate at least is still going.
2)
Here are the things they argued over:
Result: Compromise. Not sure what that looks like yet.
FYI: There is a lot more to this bill than just LTC related lines.
Update: There is more to it than just the above. The 6 -> 3 year expiration is listed as status HIC. I don't know what that means. This was in the HOUSE version, and not in the SENATE version.
1) i am not sure they ever ended the session, seems like the senate at least is still going.
2)
Here are the things they argued over:
HOUSE:
SENATE:
Result: Compromise. Not sure what that looks like yet.
FYI: There is a lot more to this bill than just LTC related lines.
Update: There is more to it than just the above. The 6 -> 3 year expiration is listed as status HIC. I don't know what that means. This was in the HOUSE version, and not in the SENATE version.
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It appears that part of the legislation did not make it to the bill's final version. So the six years license remains. For now, at least. It also casts a wider net on who is prohibited from getting a license to carry. (e.g., temporary/permanent harassment prevention order). And finally, police will be required to conduct a personal interview.
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Looks like the 6 -> 3 year renewal did not make it. So we are still at 6 years.
The in person interview did make it, however its worded so its only for initial application and does not seem to apply to renewals. Its on bakers desk now.
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