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Mass Triggers

Srderby

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So it’s been a long time since a bought a gun with a liberal trigger. picked up an MP9C today and holy shit! 10+ pounds of shit. Dry fired about 20 times and my finger cramped up. Apex kit already ordered. Have it in two others and it’s fantastic. I know there is no rational reason for this. I don’t know that I’ve ever heard a story where someone accidentally fired because the 5 pound trigger was too light. 5 pounds is not a “hair“ trigger by any means. Crazy rules to make the Libs feel good. Rant over.
 
Next time you buy a handgun just buy one that isnt f***ed up (its easy enough to drive around CMR940) although with an M&P they all suck (or at least up until some of the newer ones came out like the shieldplusmax or whatever it is) so you would still need an apex kit anyways if anything to get rid of the crunch.
 
Yeah, I have a free state Shield Plus and trigger is actually decent, though I’ll still probably do Apex At some point.
 
Is there a recall on M&P Shield?


With a loaded magazine in the firearm and the grip safety depressed, releasing the slide (by pulling it back, or releasing the slide stop), may ignite the round as the slide closes, without engaging the trigger.
 
Is there a recall on M&P Shield?


With a loaded magazine in the firearm and the grip safety depressed, releasing the slide (by pulling it back, or releasing the slide stop), may ignite the round as the slide closes, without engaging the trigger.


M&P® SHIELD™ EZ™ RECALL NOTICE FOR PISTOLS​

M&P SHIELD® EZ® PISTOL IMPORTANT SAFETY RECALL NOTICE FOR PISTOLS MANUFACTURED BETWEEN MARCH 1ST, 2020 AND OCTOBER 31ST, 2020
Smith & Wesson has identified two M&P Shield EZ Pistols on which the hammers manufactured by our supplier were cracked. In those firearms, the hammer failed to fully engage the sear, causing the round to fire, cycling the slide, and potentially resulting in multiple discharges without depressing the trigger. This issue can occur in the following two scenarios:
  1. With a loaded magazine in the firearm and the grip safety depressed, releasing the slide (by pulling it back, or releasing the slide stop), may ignite the round as the slide closes, without engaging the trigger. The condition may occur, regardless of the manual thumb safety position if equipped. This may also result in multiple discharges.
  2. With a loaded magazine in the firearm, the grip safety depressed, manual safety in the fire position, slide closed, and a round in the chamber, pulling the trigger will cause the round to fire normally, however as the slide cycles, the next round may be ignited as it is chambered by the hammer failing to fully engage the sear, causing multiple discharges.
In all cases, the firearm will NOT fire unless the grip safety is depressed. While this condition has been found only in two hammers, and our investigation suggests that these two incidents are very isolated, any unintended discharge of a firearm has the potential to cause injury. Therefore, we have established this Safety Recall as a precautionary measure to ensure that all M&P Shield EZ Pistols in service meet our design specifications.
Stop using your M&P® Shield™ EZ pistol until you determine whether it is included in this safety recall, and if so, until it has been inspected and repaired by Smith & Wesson, if necessary.
PRODUCT AFFECTED:
This notice applies ONLY to M&P® Shield™ EZ pistols (including Performance Center® models) manufactured between March 1, 2020 and October 31, 2020, and only to a small percentage of that population. It does NOT apply to all SHIELD™ pistols. To determine whether your M&P Shield EZ Pistol is affected, check the label on the box to determine date of manufacture (see image below), and if manufacture date is between March 1, 2020 and October 31, 2020 – your pistol may be affected. In this case (or if you are unsure of your date of manufacture), simply go to MPShieldEZrecall.com and input your serial number, or call 888-871-7114 .
FOR OWNERS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES:
For M&P Shield EZ Pistol owners outside the United States, see our list of Authorized Warranty Centers available at smith-wesson.com/customer-service/warranty-stations, who will inspect your pistol and replace your hammer as necessary.
FOR DEALERS/DISTRIBUTORS/RETAILERS:
  1. If you have less than 5 affected firearms, please input your serial numbers to receive return labels. If you have 5 or more affected pistols in inventory, please call 888-871-7114 and we will coordinate a pickup of the affected firearms. In either case, the firearms will be expedited to our facility, repaired, and returned to you ASAP.
  2. For those pistols on the list which you have already sold, we ask that you provide us with the names, addresses, telephone numbers and e-mails of customers to whom you have sold them to. Please send this information to us electronically at
REMEDY/ACTION TO BE TAKEN:
If your M&P Shield EZ Pistol is included in this recall, we will arrange for the return of your firearm to Smith & Wesson for inspection. After inspection, if the hammer from your firearm is affected, it will be replaced at no cost to you. We expect that this entire process will take no longer than 10 business days, and your pistol will be returned as quickly and efficiently as possible. All shipping and replacement costs will be covered by Smith & Wesson.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/safety/recall/recall-notice-for-pistols
 
Next time you buy a handgun just buy one that isnt f***ed up (its easy enough to drive around CMR940) although with an M&P they all suck (or at least up until some of the newer ones came out like the shieldplusmax or whatever it is) so you would still need an apex kit anyways if anything to get rid of the crunch.
This......my shield 45 was free state and I still put an apex flat face forward in it. Then I sold it, as I hate small pistols.

M&P Never.
 
My understanding is that guns that have no safety must have a trigger resistance of “at least 10lbs”. Guns with a safety meet the “multiple motions in order to fire” and can have a standard trigger.

Bob


“Does the handgun have built-in childproofing protection (Section 16.05(2))? Ifyouare unsure whether the handgun meets the Attorney General's childproofing requirements, you can ask the manufacturer. A handgun will meet these childproofing requirements if it contains a mechanism that effectively precludes an average five year-old child from operating the handgun when it is ready to fire, including but not limited to; a trigger resistance of at least a ten-pound pull; a firing mechanism that makes it so that an average five year-old child's hands are too
small to operate the handgun; a design where the handgun requires a series of multiple motions in order to fire the handgun; and/or a hammer deactivation device.”

https://www.mass.gov/doc/attorney-generals-handgun-regulation-enforcement-notices/download
 
So it’s been a long time since a bought a gun with a liberal trigger. picked up an MP9C today and holy shit! 10+ pounds of shit. Dry fired about 20 times and my finger cramped up. Apex kit already ordered. Have it in two others and it’s fantastic. I know there is no rational reason for this. I don’t know that I’ve ever heard a story where someone accidentally fired because the 5 pound trigger was too light. 5 pounds is not a “hair“ trigger by any means. Crazy rules to make the Libs feel good. Rant over.

My understanding of the 10# pull in MA was that persons involved with pushing this requirement believed it could potentially prevent a child from being able to pull the trigger on a firearm they shouldn't have access to.
 
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